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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #113

    Kizer has no visual lane to see Crow.Could have thrown 2 guys open just past midfield...thanks tour, that’s a good look

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    Kizer has no visual lane to see Crow.Could have thrown 2 guys open just past midfield...thanks tour, that’s a good look

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #114

    @gumby73 said:

    Kizer has no visual lane to see Crow.Could have thrown 2 guys open just past midfield...thanks tour, that’s a good look

    Yup... plenty of issues with Kizer on the play, but missing Crow at that point is not one of them. Play looks to be designed (4-receiver stack to left; Gordon split right) to isolate Gordon and go to him. Gordon did not come close to winning his one-on-one battle.

    First, and biggest, issue was his unnecessarily bailing on the pocket. Second was the direction he initially chose to bail, to his right. To go that way he had to give ground to get around Mathews... and you don't do that.

    I just went thru the play... frame by frame and I looked at the All-22 again. He was trying to go deep to Higgins, who was the deepest WR in the All-22.

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  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #115

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • U Unsympathetic

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #116

    @unsympathetic said:

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    Isn't their OC the Browns ex-QB coach that Manziel texted during the Draft telling him to tell the Browns bigwigs to draft him so he can "wreck this league"?

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @unsympathetic said:

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    Isn't their OC the Browns ex-QB coach that Manziel texted during the Draft telling him to tell the Browns bigwigs to draft him so he can "wreck this league"?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #117

    @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't their OC the Browns ex-QB coach that Manziel texted during the Draft telling him to tell the Browns bigwigs to draft him so he can "wreck this league"?

    The very same.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @unsympathetic said:

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    Isn't their OC the Browns ex-QB coach that Manziel texted during the Draft telling him to tell the Browns bigwigs to draft him so he can "wreck this league"?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #118

    @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't their OC the Browns ex-QB coach that Manziel texted during the Draft telling him to tell the Browns bigwigs to draft him so he can "wreck this league"?

    Ah.... the good ol' days...

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  • SojuS Soju wrote on
    #119

    Kizer most definitely IS the reason, folks

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @gumby73 said:

    Kizer has no visual lane to see Crow.Could have thrown 2 guys open just past midfield...thanks tour, that’s a good look

    Yup... plenty of issues with Kizer on the play, but missing Crow at that point is not one of them. Play looks to be designed (4-receiver stack to left; Gordon split right) to isolate Gordon and go to him. Gordon did not come close to winning his one-on-one battle.

    First, and biggest, issue was his unnecessarily bailing on the pocket. Second was the direction he initially chose to bail, to his right. To go that way he had to give ground to get around Mathews... and you don't do that.

    I just went thru the play... frame by frame and I looked at the All-22 again. He was trying to go deep to Higgins, who was the deepest WR in the All-22.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #120

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... plenty of issues with Kizer on the play, but missing Crow at that point is not one of them. Play looks to be designed (4-receiver stack to left; Gordon split right) to isolate Gordon and go to him. Gordon did not come close to winning his one-on-one battle.

    First, and biggest, issue was his unnecessarily bailing on the pocket. Second was the direction he initially chose to bail, to his right. To go that way he had to give ground to get around Mathews... and you don't do that.

    I just went thru the play... frame by frame and I looked at the All-22 again. He was trying to go deep to Higgins, who was the deepest WR in the All-22.

    Once he spilled further to his left, how does he still not see crow?

  • U Unsympathetic

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on
    #121

    @unsympathetic said:

    It could be worse.. At least we aren't Chicago with the John Fox HC / someone named Dowell Loggains as OC ruining Trubisky. Small victories, I know..

    Trubinsky is about to "wreck this league"

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #122

    He keeps showing he's the GOAT! Despite that being a literal ball you throw 0-100 times, Shmuck Hue am I right?

  • B BaconHound wrote on
    #123

    Kizer back to being the problem

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #124

    Whoever started this limpdick thread come back and man up. Come back and tell me how Kizer is the dude with a straight face. I implore you, but you can't. 

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  • stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on
    #125

    Kizer never has been and isn’t an NFL caliber QB. He has heart, but so did Colt McCoy

  • U Unsympathetic

    In the two games with Gordon back in the lineup, Kizer has a 93.7 passer rating when targeting Gordon and a 43.6 passer rating when targeting any other WR

    During the first 11 weeks of the season, Kizer’s 68.9 passer rating when kept clean ranked dead last. However, over the past three games, Kizer's 104.8 passer rating when kept clean ranks 13th.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on
    #126

    @unsympathetic said:

    In the two games with Gordon back in the lineup, Kizer has a 93.7 passer rating when targeting Gordon and a 43.6 passer rating when targeting any other WR

    During the first 11 weeks of the season, Kizer’s 68.9 passer rating when kept clean ranked dead last. However, over the past three games, Kizer's 104.8 passer rating when kept clean ranks 13th.

    Come on - let's get real here. .When Kizer isn't throwing INTs he's carelessly fumbling the ball away.  And let's not pretend it's the same as Peyton Manning throwing 26 TDs to counterbalance his 28 INTs.  That's a lot closer to a 1 TD to 1 INT ratio than Kizer has accomplished here. 

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #127

    Kizers the reason. And hogan. And kessler. Cant none of them play qb in the nfl

  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #128

    DeShone needs to be DeShown the door to the bench,,. Not only he in accurate... He's stupid too..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #129

    He might have better luck throwing at his receivers hands instead of their feet. Maybe try leading them a bit too. Ya, he stinks.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Whoever started this limpdick thread come back and man up. Come back and tell me how Kizer is the dude with a straight face. I implore you, but you can't. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #130

    @jrb12711 said:

    Whoever started this limpdick thread come back and man up. Come back and tell me how Kizer is the dude with a straight face. I implore you, but you can't. 

    Why would the OP bother? You'd just misunderstand his points again.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jrb12711 said:

    Whoever started this limpdick thread come back and man up. Come back and tell me how Kizer is the dude with a straight face. I implore you, but you can't. 

    Why would the OP bother? You'd just misunderstand his points again.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #131

    @tour2ma said:

    Why would the OP bother? You'd just misunderstand his points again.

    The OP made it clear in multiple other threads that kizer has potential "if only we get the right coach". If we got manning as the qb coach.....he would have literally dropped a deuce by the bench closest to where kizer sat and then just walked off these last couple weeks. The op went at me in my thread ladt week about kizer...he clearly defended him over multiple pages. 

    Im onboard with jrb, i want cdl out here front and center to explain this 3rd week in a row shtshow. 

    And btw i called it last werk kizer would pull that same throw out of his a'ss. Weedon attempted a shovel pass as he was getting tackled the very next week after that detroit game and it almost ended in another int....but nobody remembers it because it didnt result in a turnover. 

    I know these kids and how arrogantly Retarded they are. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jrb12711 said:

    Whoever started this limpdick thread come back and man up. Come back and tell me how Kizer is the dude with a straight face. I implore you, but you can't. 

    Why would the OP bother? You'd just misunderstand his points again.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #132

    @tour2ma said:

    Why would the OP bother? You'd just misunderstand his points again.

    Nah Tour- I understand the points in the initial post perfectly. Go argue these points- Kizer has learned NOTHING from the last couple games. Got stripped sacked from behind AGAIN- this time for a TD. tossed the ball into triple coverage for a game killing drive, had Gordon wide open, and couldn't hit him to save his sorry butt. I am SO done with this bum. 

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