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  • @mld-woody said:

    So our very young, injured defense didn't make the stop after the STs allowed the Packers to start with a short field?

    Fire them all!!!

    Nope...they didn't....  Nor did they stop after the fake punt...gave up a 50 yard drive then too.  They don't make big plays...haven't done it all season.   Fire them all is right...all the coaches.  Every single one of them. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    Nope...they didn't....  Nor did they stop after the fake punt...gave up a 50 yard drive then too.  They don't make big plays...haven't done it all season.   Fire them all is right...all the coaches.  Every single one of them. 

    There ya go. That'll fix it champ. Just fire everyone. It'll work eventually. 

    Context is for pussies anyway. 

  • @mark-o said:

    Nope...they didn't....  Nor did they stop after the fake punt...gave up a 50 yard drive then too.  They don't make big plays...haven't done it all season.   Fire them all is right...all the coaches.  Every single one of them. 

    There ya go. That'll fix it champ. Just fire everyone. It'll work eventually. 

    Context is for pussies anyway. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    There ya go. That'll fix it champ. Just fire everyone. It'll work eventually. 

    Context is for pussies anyway. 

    Well...1-27 doesn't deserve to keep his job.   First team in NFL HISTORY to start 0-13 back to back seasons...but sure..lets keep the HC around.  He's doing such a great job so far.   Winning isn't that important.  

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #32

    Neither is context apparently.

    Fire them all. Start over. Keep doing it every year. Start a 3+ year plan and bail after less than 2. Just keep firing. It'll work eventually. For sure. 

  • You're mad our injured rookie didn't play like a HOFer in like his 8th game? 

    Yeeeesh

    This fanbase. 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    You're mad our injured rookie didn't play like a HOFer in like his 8th game? 

    Yeeeesh

    This fanbase. 

    Yeeeesh..... there's always an excuse.

    Well, since he's proven to be made out of blown glass so far, I guess he'll always have the "he's injured" excuse to save him. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    You're mad our injured rookie didn't play like a HOFer in like his 8th game? 

    Yeeeesh

    This fanbase. 

    Yeeeesh..... there's always an excuse.

    Well, since he's proven to be made out of blown glass so far, I guess he'll always have the "he's injured" excuse to save him. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Yeeeesh..... there's always an excuse.

    Well, since he's proven to be made out of blown glass so far, I guess he'll always have the "he's injured" excuse to save him. 

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   I don't give a shit about any of these guys.  I want guys who will win games.  So far this shit show has managed 1 in 28 games, so I'm fine moving on from all of them.    Hopefully Dorsey will be able to decide who can play and who can't and we can start moving in the right direction.

  • Neither is context apparently.

    Fire them all. Start over. Keep doing it every year. Start a 3+ year plan and bail after less than 2. Just keep firing. It'll work eventually. For sure. 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Fire them all. Start over. Keep doing it every year. Start a 3+ year plan and bail after less than 2. Just keep firing. It'll work eventually. For sure. 

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Yeeeesh..... there's always an excuse.

    Well, since he's proven to be made out of blown glass so far, I guess he'll always have the "he's injured" excuse to save him. 

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   I don't give a shit about any of these guys.  I want guys who will win games.  So far this shit show has managed 1 in 28 games, so I'm fine moving on from all of them.    Hopefully Dorsey will be able to decide who can play and who can't and we can start moving in the right direction.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   

    It somehow shows they're "Super Fans".......... 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Fire them all. Start over. Keep doing it every year. Start a 3+ year plan and bail after less than 2. Just keep firing. It'll work eventually. For sure. 

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    You forgot....don't criticize them either because if you're too mean to the team on a message board, it can have an affect on how the team performs.     🙄

  • @mld-woody said:

    Fire them all. Start over. Keep doing it every year. Start a 3+ year plan and bail after less than 2. Just keep firing. It'll work eventually. For sure. 

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

  • @d-bone said:

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

    yeah because one more will help Hue's playcalling and clock management.

  • @d-bone said:

    Yeeeesh..... there's always an excuse.

    Well, since he's proven to be made out of blown glass so far, I guess he'll always have the "he's injured" excuse to save him. 

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   I don't give a shit about any of these guys.  I want guys who will win games.  So far this shit show has managed 1 in 28 games, so I'm fine moving on from all of them.    Hopefully Dorsey will be able to decide who can play and who can't and we can start moving in the right direction.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   I don't give a Sheet about any of these guys.  I want guys who will win games.  So far this Sheet show has managed 1 in 28 games, so I'm fine moving on from all of them.    Hopefully Dorsey will be able to decide who can play and who can't and we can start moving in the right direction.

    When anything that isn't "fire Everyone now!!!" us considered defending them....

  • @mld-woody said:

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

    yeah because one more will help Hue's playcalling and clock management.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    yeah because one more will help Hue's playcalling and clock management.

    I agree this was a problem year 1 but seems to be better this year.

  • @mark-o said:

    It's amazing how much people are willing defend players/coaches on a team thats won one game in 2 seasons.   I don't give a Sheet about any of these guys.  I want guys who will win games.  So far this Sheet show has managed 1 in 28 games, so I'm fine moving on from all of them.    Hopefully Dorsey will be able to decide who can play and who can't and we can start moving in the right direction.

    When anything that isn't "fire Everyone now!!!" us considered defending them....

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    When anything that isn't "fire Everyone now!!!" us considered defending them....

    When some constantly make excuses for them, then yes it is defending them. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Keep them all. Stay with 1-28. Keep doing it for 5 more years. Start a 3 year plan and keep it for 2 years longer. Just keep them all. They win eventually. For sure. 

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Not asking for 5. Asking for 1 more

    Not asking to fire them all. Asking for a competent head coach that isn't 1-28 and an FO that acquires talented football players...... Well  s h i t,  I guess I am saying fire them all.

    My bad. 

  • @mark-o said:

    yeah because one more will help Hue's playcalling and clock management.

    I agree this was a problem year 1 but seems to be better this year.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @baconhound said:

    I agree this was a problem year 1 but seems to be better this year.

    His clock management is just as bad if not worse.  He has a clear disdain for holding on to his timeouts.   He chews out Kizer for wasting a time out and then wastes one himself with a stupid, worthless challenge.

    He's a bad head coach.  He is what his record says he is.   A record breakingly bad head coach.

  • @baconhound said:

    I agree this was a problem year 1 but seems to be better this year.

    His clock management is just as bad if not worse.  He has a clear disdain for holding on to his timeouts.   He chews out Kizer for wasting a time out and then wastes one himself with a stupid, worthless challenge.

    He's a bad head coach.  He is what his record says he is.   A record breakingly bad head coach.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    @mark-o said:

    His clock management is just as bad if not worse.  He has a clear disdain for holding on to his timeouts.   He chews out Kizer for wasting a time out and then wastes one himself with a stupid, worthless challenge.

    He's a bad head coach.  He is what his record says he is.   A record breakingly bad head coach.

    He's used timeouts because the offense and defense is clueless.  Did we forget Kizer audibling in Detroit?  Kizer keeps getting sacked in pivotal spots and turning it over, Hue is calling timeouts to settle him and try to avoid those plays.  Kizer not getting the plays called has been an issue.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Same guys who want everyone fired now want to give cpt bed shtter more chances. This is why our fanbase is a league wide joke.

  • @7moses7 said:

    kizer Sheet his pants on the last throw of the first half and the last pass he threw , he just doesn't get it!

    Disagree with the int before half. 3rd and a mile because of Sheet playcall. What play do you do there?? A 50/50 ball that is the equivalent of a punt is totally acceptable there.  The pass he needes to win the game he threw perfect. Njoku dropped it period. Everything after that is pretty irrelevant IMO. And no he throws that ball away and a

    GB walks down field anyways for at least a field goal. That game was over after the dropped dime. Everything after is extra plays

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    @cdl15 said:

    Disagree with the int before half. 3rd and a mile because of Sheet playcall. What play do you do there?? A 50/50 ball that is the equivalent of a punt is totally acceptable there.  The pass he needes to win the game he threw perfect. Njoku dropped it period. Everything after that is pretty irrelevant IMO. And no he throws that ball away and a

    GB walks down field anyways for at least a field goal. That game was over after the dropped dime. Everything after is extra plays

    It's perfectly acceptable there when Kizer does it, but when Hogan does it it's not? 

    Not saying that you're wrong, I happen to agree with you that it's fine, a 50/50 ball - equivalent of a punt, not a big deal.

    It's just the hypocrisy.

    Kizer played his best game today by a lot... however, it's still not good enough. Time to see what Hogan can do these last three games. Let's actually try to win a game. 

  • @cdl15 said:

    Disagree with the int before half. 3rd and a mile because of Sheet playcall. What play do you do there?? A 50/50 ball that is the equivalent of a punt is totally acceptable there.  The pass he needes to win the game he threw perfect. Njoku dropped it period. Everything after that is pretty irrelevant IMO. And no he throws that ball away and a

    GB walks down field anyways for at least a field goal. That game was over after the dropped dime. Everything after is extra plays

    It's perfectly acceptable there when Kizer does it, but when Hogan does it it's not? 

    Not saying that you're wrong, I happen to agree with you that it's fine, a 50/50 ball - equivalent of a punt, not a big deal.

    It's just the hypocrisy.

    Kizer played his best game today by a lot... however, it's still not good enough. Time to see what Hogan can do these last three games. Let's actually try to win a game. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @poeticg said:

    Time to see what Hogan can do these last three games. Let's actually try to win a game. 

    He wont win a game on his own for us but im at the point where kessler and hogan are now competing for their spot next year. 

  • Same guys who want everyone fired now want to give cpt bed shtter more chances. This is why our fanbase is a league wide joke.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Same guys who want everyone fired now want to give cpt bed shtter more chances. This is why our fanbase is a league wide joke.

    Kizer gets 3 more chances....because (as has been said 1000000 times) he's the best of the 3 shitty QB's we have.   No one is defending him saying he should get another year as a starter or we shouldn't draft his replacement #1 overall in the next draft.    Kizer isn't the answer...he's a nice backup QB and should never have been starting this season but our brilliant HC and QB whisperer made him the starter.   Some of you dump all over Kizer, who shouldn't even be playing this year, but want to keep the guy who made the decision to have him be the day 1 starter.