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  • Yeah thats not what our problem is. These players sht the bed in pressure sotuations. Coaching mitigates that only so much

  • There's plenty of blame to go around.  From Jimmy Haslam through the coaching staff down to the last guy in the practice roster.  A team can't be the worst team in NFL history without everyone making a contribution to the $hit show. 

  • When you are in the NFL and you line up offsides... you are one dumb motherShmucker

  • Yeah thats not what our problem is. These players sht the bed in pressure sotuations. Coaching mitigates that only so much

    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah thats not what our problem is. These players sht the bed in pressure sotuations. Coaching mitigates that only so much

    It is a nice mix of dumb players and dumb play calls. A middle school coach knows to toss those screens on 3rd down if the defense always blitzes.

  • There's plenty of blame to go around.  From Jimmy Haslam through the coaching staff down to the last guy in the practice roster.  A team can't be the worst team in NFL history without everyone making a contribution to the $hit show. 

    @clark-w-griswold said:

    There's plenty of blame to go around.  From Jimmy Haslam through the coaching staff down to the last guy in the practice roster.  A team can't be the worst team in NFL history without everyone making a contribution to the $hit show. 

    This is the most accurate statement here in a while.

  • When you are in the NFL and you line up offsides... you are one dumb motherShmucker

    @hx214 said:

    When you are in the NFL and you line up offsides... you are one dumb motherShmucker

    And we not only manged to do it once....we just  to show that we are committed to being stupid, we did it again.  

  • @hx214 said:

    When you are in the NFL and you line up offsides... you are one dumb motherShmucker

    And we not only manged to do it once....we just  to show that we are committed to being stupid, we did it again.  

    @mark-o said:

    And we not only manged to do it once....we just  to show that we are committed to being stupid, we did it again.  

    You think the coaches havent raged against this noob mistakes?

  • @mark-o said:

    And we not only manged to do it once....we just  to show that we are committed to being stupid, we did it again.  

    You think the coaches havent raged against this noob mistakes?

    @clevfan4life said:

    You think the coaches havent raged against this noob mistakes?

    Hasn't changed anything.  We do it all the time.   How much did the raging work after Nassib committed the after the play personal foul?    How much did he learn....he lined up a yard offsides.   Who cares if the coaches are "raging".....the coaches are lousy.  This is the 2nd to last game of the season and we still make stupid mistakes.  From the owner all the way to the practice squad players are responsible and they all suck.  Every last one of them.

  • The point is coaching can only take u so far with sub par talent. Dorsey was 100% right. Guarantee he txted haslem after the game saying "told u"

  • The point is coaching can only take u so far with sub par talent. Dorsey was 100% right. Guarantee he txted haslem after the game saying "told u"

    @clevfan4life said:

    The point is coaching can only take u so far with sub par talent. Dorsey was 100% right. Guarantee he txted haslem after the game saying "told u"

    I hope he said to him you have a loser HC on the sidelines and we need someone who actually wins more than he loses.  

  • Like everything in life, it's a little of both

  • Hue needs to be fired ASAP.  Kizer needs to be cut.  He sucks so bad it isn't funny.

  • Im sorry these players are just......i dunno. I want to strangle the fuk out of the FO people that are responsible for these players. No coach is going to win in this city with this constant clown show

    @clevfan4life said:

    Im sorry these players are just......i dunno. I want to strangle the fuk out of the FO people that are responsible for these players. No coach is going to win in this city with this constant clown show

    sorry, it is coaching also...this is the worse fuking head coach i have seen...all he does is stand there and look confused...and you are not going to tell me the undiscipline play this yr has nothing to do with Shmucking coaching??????....they all fuking stink...the players and the coaching, and the moronic fukface jimmy slimeball hashit...

  • I was the first to want this guy fired. in

  • its not coaching?!?!?!? ..... come on man

  • The diff between this team and NE is BB would get rid of these players. Browns dont have that luxury

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Im sorry these players are just......i dunno. I want to strangle the fuk out of the FO people that are responsible for these players. No coach is going to win in this city with this constant clown show

    sorry, it is coaching also...this is the worse fuking head coach i have seen...all he does is stand there and look confused...and you are not going to tell me the undiscipline play this yr has nothing to do with Shmucking coaching??????....they all fuking stink...the players and the coaching, and the moronic fukface jimmy slimeball hashit...

    @browns52 said:

    all he does is stand there and look confused..

    And u would have the same look if u watched ur qb week after week make the same mistakes that u drilled on during the week

  • Some people seem to continue to underestimate the importance of coaching in football...

    In the NFL right now, with the way the college game is played, you need coaches that understand what these player's strengths and weaknesses are coming into the league. The great coaches right now are designing/adapting their schemes to fit their players.  Hue is doing the exact opposite. 

    With the continued influx of young talent this team will continue to bring in via the draft, Hue has no chance to win. He wants his players to play his scheme bc he seems to believe that is the only way to make this work. He seems to have no ability to adapt to his players.

    Plus, we need a coach that emphasizes winning games no matter what it takes to pull it off. How many weeks last year did Hue say "it is not about winning right now..."  I'm sorry, then what the fudge are you here for? What kind of direction does that show?  

    How many years will it take to build a roster that works in "Hue's system?" My guess... in all reality, it would take 5-6 years just to develop the roster plus 1-3 more years to get them to "gel."  

    There are certainly people out there that can do a better job with our current assets, in a shorter time period...

  • Everyone has a euphemism, saying, or pet peeve that they think will fix the Browns. The guy who posted that it takes a lot of failures to contribute to this mess really hit the nail on the head. We have been bashing each other on the head for some time now, and even with some of the suggested changes being made, the outcome is different.

    Whether it is poor talent, bad coaching, bad management, morale, discipline, ownership, play calling, attitude, or something else, the Cleveland Browns are a monumental disaster. Sadly, not one of us can make any single change, and as much as we think Dorsey is/isn't the right guy, none of us really have enough inside information to make a sensible analysis of this team.

    In my mind, it is hard for me to see how 2018 will be much different, especially if Hue is the coach. His shortcomings have been shown for 2 years now, Dorkey's hiring won't change that. Likewise, Dorkey is not going to add new talent to substantially impact our roster. Unless he unloads everyone a al Chuck Nolte..........

    There is just something weird going on with the Browns. How in the fukck can one team continually make monumental mistakes while playing good enough to be in a winning position? How many fumbles can you have while crossing in for a touchdown? This isn't anger inducing............we are the fukcking Rubiks Hube of the NFL.

  • Everyone has a euphemism, saying, or pet peeve that they think will fix the Browns. The guy who posted that it takes a lot of failures to contribute to this mess really hit the nail on the head. We have been bashing each other on the head for some time now, and even with some of the suggested changes being made, the outcome is different.

    Whether it is poor talent, bad coaching, bad management, morale, discipline, ownership, play calling, attitude, or something else, the Cleveland Browns are a monumental disaster. Sadly, not one of us can make any single change, and as much as we think Dorsey is/isn't the right guy, none of us really have enough inside information to make a sensible analysis of this team.

    In my mind, it is hard for me to see how 2018 will be much different, especially if Hue is the coach. His shortcomings have been shown for 2 years now, Dorkey's hiring won't change that. Likewise, Dorkey is not going to add new talent to substantially impact our roster. Unless he unloads everyone a al Chuck Nolte..........

    There is just something weird going on with the Browns. How in the fukck can one team continually make monumental mistakes while playing good enough to be in a winning position? How many fumbles can you have while crossing in for a touchdown? This isn't anger inducing............we are the fukcking Rubiks Hube of the NFL.

    @ghoolie said:

     How many fumbles can you have while crossing in for a touchdown? 

    it's supernatural at this point, no joking around.