Josh Allen mechanics are very good.
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Beets are garbage.
Beets are garbage.
I like beets.
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Some yuppies never planted a seed and watched it grow into a beautiful plant. Why,you take a beet seed. It isn't pretty. Rolls around a bit crooked in yer hand. Some yuppies, why, they be figurin' to figure that that beet seed ain't gonna amount to nothin. But you take that beet side, put it in some good dirt, a little water, a touch of fertilizer, and you just watch that little seed turn into somethin beautiful.
Now, lookee here. You got yer gold beets, yer red beets, yer striped beets. You don't know by lookin what you can be agrowinwhen you draft a smart future star, and add a little great coachin, surround him with great fellow players, and he grows into a great qb. Now, he may be a red..skins qb. Or, he could be a gold qb. Now, he ain't never agonna be no sickly stinkin three rivers scum yeller, or he'll be just be a cowpie follerin some gal into a bathroom, know what I'm sayin?
You just gotta see the beet in the future. Some can't do nothin but see the seed. The rest of us - we see the full growed beet. Now, you just gotta have a good seed to grow. You gotta have that qb that you figure will grow. Ain't no qb gonna grow into a right fine qb in the NFL, if'n he ain't got the vision to see the field, and at least enough character to stay on it.
End of story, fellers. Some of us see what he can be after he grows into an NFL qb; some can only see the seed. That's pretty much all thar is to it.


You just gotta see the beet in the future. Some can't do nothin but see the seed. The rest of us - we see the full growed beet. Now, you just gotta have a good seed to grow. You gotta have that qb that you figure will grow. Ain't no qb gonna grow into a right fine qb in the NFL, if'n he ain't got the vision to see the field, and at least enough character to stay on it.
End of story, fellers. Some of us see what he can be after he grows into an NFL qb; some can only see the seed. That's pretty much all thar is to it.
You don't take a seed (project QB) with the first overall pick in the draft. That player needs to be a star from day one. If we have someone better who can start for a few weeks, that's fine but that first overall pick better be ready to go quickly.
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You just gotta see the beet in the future. Some can't do nothin but see the seed. The rest of us - we see the full growed beet. Now, you just gotta have a good seed to grow. You gotta have that qb that you figure will grow. Ain't no qb gonna grow into a right fine qb in the NFL, if'n he ain't got the vision to see the field, and at least enough character to stay on it.
End of story, fellers. Some of us see what he can be after he grows into an NFL qb; some can only see the seed. That's pretty much all thar is to it.
You don't take a seed (project QB) with the first overall pick in the draft. That player needs to be a star from day one. If we have someone better who can start for a few weeks, that's fine but that first overall pick better be ready to go quickly.
You don't take a seed (project QB) with the first overall pick in the draft. That player needs to be a star from day one. If we have someone better who can start for a few weeks, that's fine but that first overall pick better be ready to go quickly.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat, have Allen rated as a late 3rd, early 4th round talent. The other 5.....Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph are all rated as 1st round or early 2d round talents.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/
But, in their Mock...they do have Allen being taken 15th.
(Browns take Darnold #1, Rosen #2 to Giants.....and they have Rudolph going #29 to the Steelers)
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You don't take a seed (project QB) with the first overall pick in the draft. That player needs to be a star from day one. If we have someone better who can start for a few weeks, that's fine but that first overall pick better be ready to go quickly.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat, have Allen rated as a late 3rd, early 4th round talent. The other 5.....Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph are all rated as 1st round or early 2d round talents.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/
But, in their Mock...they do have Allen being taken 15th.
(Browns take Darnold #1, Rosen #2 to Giants.....and they have Rudolph going #29 to the Steelers)
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat, have Allen rated as a late 3rd, early 4th round talent. The other 5.....Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph are all rated as 1st round or early 2d round talents.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/
But, in their Mock...they do have Allen being taken 15th.
That's because to quote Brian Billick "need is a terrible evaluator of a quarterback". A team that needs one will reach for a project like Allen. Just like the Browns did with Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, etc etc etc.
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DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat, have Allen rated as a late 3rd, early 4th round talent. The other 5.....Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph are all rated as 1st round or early 2d round talents.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/
But, in their Mock...they do have Allen being taken 15th.
That's because to quote Brian Billick "need is a terrible evaluator of a quarterback". A team that needs one will reach for a project like Allen. Just like the Browns did with Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, etc etc etc.
That's because to quote Brian Billick "need is a terrible evaluator of a quarterback". A team that needs one will reach for a project like Allen. Just like the Browns did with Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, etc etc etc.
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
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That's because to quote Brian Billick "need is a terrible evaluator of a quarterback". A team that needs one will reach for a project like Allen. Just like the Browns did with Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, etc etc etc.
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
True Gip, the players mentioned may be better prospects at their positions than the QBs, but no position affects the game more than the QB. It's why they're always over drafted. I won't bother to look it up, but I'd bet both Trubisky and Mahomes would be considered huge reaches based on their Draftscout rankings last year.

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And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
True Gip, the players mentioned may be better prospects at their positions than the QBs, but no position affects the game more than the QB. It's why they're always over drafted. I won't bother to look it up, but I'd bet both Trubisky and Mahomes would be considered huge reaches based on their Draftscout rankings last year.

True Gip, the players mentioned may be better prospects at their positions than the QBs, but no position affects the game more than the QB. It's why they're always over drafted. I won't bother to look it up, but I'd bet both Trubisky and Mahomes would be considered huge reaches based on their Draftscout rankings last year.

Can't seem to find where he was as overall prospect....but MT was rated the #1 QB by them.
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You don't take a seed (project QB) with the first overall pick in the draft. That player needs to be a star from day one. If we have someone better who can start for a few weeks, that's fine but that first overall pick better be ready to go quickly.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat, have Allen rated as a late 3rd, early 4th round talent. The other 5.....Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph are all rated as 1st round or early 2d round talents.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/
But, in their Mock...they do have Allen being taken 15th.
(Browns take Darnold #1, Rosen #2 to Giants.....and they have Rudolph going #29 to the Steelers)
- Did cal just play the "hick card?"
- And, h, Jackson Hole is one of the favorite places I've ever visited... absolutely gorgeous.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat...
lol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
For the record and comparison here is a link to the DraftScout "Top 750" where QBs hold two of the top three spots and three of the top eight.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2018&sortby=rateall&order=ASC
Do the lists look to be interchangeable? Which more closer resembles the other major lists that have been published?
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
Ignorant is the only word for this post. Rankings... even when attributed to the correct source... are never as rigid as 1-2-3. Teams cluster players of similar talent levels and then assuming there are no "red flags" they let need, fit, and positional importance break ties.
Only question is how willful is the ignorance on display.
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Saw the 7 on 7 INT and it was.... not good. The trend with Allen is that when he misses (and he does so quite often) he misses high. That just gives far too many opportunities for world class athletes to get their hands on the ball.
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ol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
Well...if I got false information.....then I got it from you. You disparaged DraftScout on more than one occasion.
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And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
Ignorant is the only word for this post. Rankings... even when attributed to the correct source... are never as rigid as 1-2-3. Teams cluster players of similar talent levels and then assuming there are no "red flags" they let need, fit, and positional importance break ties.
Only question is how willful is the ignorance on display.
The only thing ignorant is your ignorant...useless, wrong reply. I stated an factual theory: IF a scouting source..no matter who it is....has no QB rated nearly as good as other position players.....then, IN THEORY, if several QBs are taken over those more highly rated other position players...then it CAN be stated that those QBs were overdrafted.
This is really a pretty simple theory....Not sure why you cannot discern it as it not particularly nuanced. And the fact that "position importance" is in there is obvious....QBs are by far given preference because of positional importance. That is central to the theory.
FACT: CBS (you can go flog your pecker over whether they are tied in with Draft Scouts or not)....had 9 players rated better than ANY QB.
IF in fact 2-3-4 QBs are drafted in like the Top 5....The are being overdrafted. Other, better rated players (by that particular scouting service) are being bypassed in order to draft a QB.
Again....your only apparent objection seems to be that you disagree with the rankings of particular scouting service. But, you have to remember, that you....Tour2ma...are not a part of the fuycking equation...no matter how much you want to insert yourself into it.
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- Did cal just play the "hick card?"
- And, h, Jackson Hole is one of the favorite places I've ever visited... absolutely gorgeous.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat...
lol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
For the record and comparison here is a link to the DraftScout "Top 750" where QBs hold two of the top three spots and three of the top eight.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2018&sortby=rateall&order=ASC
Do the lists look to be interchangeable? Which more closer resembles the other major lists that have been published?
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
Ignorant is the only word for this post. Rankings... even when attributed to the correct source... are never as rigid as 1-2-3. Teams cluster players of similar talent levels and then assuming there are no "red flags" they let need, fit, and positional importance break ties.
Only question is how willful is the ignorance on display.
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ol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
Well...if I got false information.....then I got it from you. You disparaged DraftScout on more than one occasion.
You disparaged DraftScout on more than one occasion.
Then you should no problem finding a post where I do...
I'll wait...
As for the other "reply"... adding obstinance to your ignorance neither proves nor improves anything.
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- Did cal just play the "hick card?"
- And, h, Jackson Hole is one of the favorite places I've ever visited... absolutely gorgeous.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat...
lol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
For the record and comparison here is a link to the DraftScout "Top 750" where QBs hold two of the top three spots and three of the top eight.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2018&sortby=rateall&order=ASC
Do the lists look to be interchangeable? Which more closer resembles the other major lists that have been published?
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
Ignorant is the only word for this post. Rankings... even when attributed to the correct source... are never as rigid as 1-2-3. Teams cluster players of similar talent levels and then assuming there are no "red flags" they let need, fit, and positional importance break ties.
Only question is how willful is the ignorance on display.
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You disparaged DraftScout on more than one occasion.
Then you should no problem finding a post where I do...
I'll wait...
As for the other "reply"... adding obstinance to your ignorance neither proves nor improves anything.
Then you should no problem finding a post where I do...
I'll wait...
As for the other "reply"... adding obstinance to your ignorance neither proves nor improves anything.
You said their opinions were useless if they had Mason Rudolph as the top rated quarterback. What do you call that other than being disparaging. As to the other observations when I had it was accuracy and aptitude and knowledge and understanding. What do you bring to the game and none of thoseYou said their opinions were useless if they had Mason Rudolph as the top rated quarterback. What do you call that other than being disparaging. As to the other observations when I had it was accuracy and aptitude and knowledge and understanding. What do you bring to the game and none of
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I ask this honestly to anyone who has watched both - so far and to my knowledge that would be Tour, Cal and a couple others...
Even the die hard Camp Allen guys acknowledge that he's a multi-year project. At minimum 2, preferably 3 before possibly being "ready". Now even with that some tout him as high as #1 because of his physical gifts and arm strength. My '1B' QB in this draft (Benkert) who is of similar size @ 6'4 around 225lbs ... shows routine flashes of high level traits, doesn't have some of the command and pacing issues of Allen, plays on a team with talent lower than the relative teams around him and his own but has better stats and not the injury history... is only projected at the moment to be a 4th round round pick and is expected to sit 2 to 3 years to develop.
Where lies the major difference that places Allen head and shoulders over my guy at a comparatively much cheaper price.?!?! How do you justify spending that high of a pick on Allen even though you see another QB with similar gifts, a ceiling just as high and a better current resume?!?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
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I ask this honestly to anyone who has watched both - so far and to my knowledge that would be Tour, Cal and a couple others...
Even the die hard Camp Allen guys acknowledge that he's a multi-year project. At minimum 2, preferably 3 before possibly being "ready". Now even with that some tout him as high as #1 because of his physical gifts and arm strength. My '1B' QB in this draft (Benkert) who is of similar size @ 6'4 around 225lbs ... shows routine flashes of high level traits, doesn't have some of the command and pacing issues of Allen, plays on a team with talent lower than the relative teams around him and his own but has better stats and not the injury history... is only projected at the moment to be a 4th round round pick and is expected to sit 2 to 3 years to develop.
Where lies the major difference that places Allen head and shoulders over my guy at a comparatively much cheaper price.?!?! How do you justify spending that high of a pick on Allen even though you see another QB with similar gifts, a ceiling just as high and a better current resume?!?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
I ask this honestly to anyone who has watched both - so far and to my knowledge that would be Tour, Cal and a couple others...
Even the die hard Camp Allen guys acknowledge that he's a multi-year project. At minimum 2, preferably 3 before possibly being "ready". Now even with that some tout him as high as #1 because of his physical gifts and arm strength. My '1B' QB in this draft (Benkert) who is of similar size @ 6'4 around 225lbs ... shows routine flashes of high level traits, doesn't have some of the command and pacing issues of Allen, plays on a team with talent lower than the relative teams around him and his own but has better stats and not the injury history... is only projected at the moment to be a 4th round round pick and is expected to sit 2 to 3 years to develop.
Where lies the major difference that places Allen head and shoulders over my guy at a comparatively much cheaper price.?!?! How do you justify spending that high of a pick on Allen even though you see another QB with similar gifts, a ceiling just as high and a better current resume?!?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
Mike White from WKU will likely be selected around the same time as Benkhert. Highly suggest watching film on him if you haven't yet.
To me, we already have a project who's a physical specimen in Kizer. it's not like he won't be able to improve.
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I ask this honestly to anyone who has watched both - so far and to my knowledge that would be Tour, Cal and a couple others...
Even the die hard Camp Allen guys acknowledge that he's a multi-year project. At minimum 2, preferably 3 before possibly being "ready". Now even with that some tout him as high as #1 because of his physical gifts and arm strength. My '1B' QB in this draft (Benkert) who is of similar size @ 6'4 around 225lbs ... shows routine flashes of high level traits, doesn't have some of the command and pacing issues of Allen, plays on a team with talent lower than the relative teams around him and his own but has better stats and not the injury history... is only projected at the moment to be a 4th round round pick and is expected to sit 2 to 3 years to develop.
Where lies the major difference that places Allen head and shoulders over my guy at a comparatively much cheaper price.?!?! How do you justify spending that high of a pick on Allen even though you see another QB with similar gifts, a ceiling just as high and a better current resume?!?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
Mike White from WKU will likely be selected around the same time as Benkhert. Highly suggest watching film on him if you haven't yet.
To me, we already have a project who's a physical specimen in Kizer. it's not like he won't be able to improve.
Mike White from WKU will likely be selected around the same time as Benkhert. Highly suggest watching film on him if you haven't yet.
To me, we already have a project who's a physical specimen in Kizer. it's not like he won't be able to improve.
Funny you ask, I have a tie to the Hilltoppers as a distant cousins-cousin is on the coaching staff (I know, dumb story). He invited family down to the Ball State game this year but I couldn't make it. Haven't had a chance to watch him but I hear about him often from a buddy of mine. When I get some free time this weekend, as it feels like I'm watching about 3 or 4 different players at a time anymore, I'll peep in on him.
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I ask this honestly to anyone who has watched both - so far and to my knowledge that would be Tour, Cal and a couple others...
Even the die hard Camp Allen guys acknowledge that he's a multi-year project. At minimum 2, preferably 3 before possibly being "ready". Now even with that some tout him as high as #1 because of his physical gifts and arm strength. My '1B' QB in this draft (Benkert) who is of similar size @ 6'4 around 225lbs ... shows routine flashes of high level traits, doesn't have some of the command and pacing issues of Allen, plays on a team with talent lower than the relative teams around him and his own but has better stats and not the injury history... is only projected at the moment to be a 4th round round pick and is expected to sit 2 to 3 years to develop.
Where lies the major difference that places Allen head and shoulders over my guy at a comparatively much cheaper price.?!?! How do you justify spending that high of a pick on Allen even though you see another QB with similar gifts, a ceiling just as high and a better current resume?!?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
Cal, you yourself called Kurt 'impressive'. So I'll ask you specifically - where is the difference between the two that makes one a "top 10 pick" and the other a day 2 player "at best"..?
Excellent question. Benkert is impressive - it's said he is accurate at all three levels - big advantage so far, maybe?, over Allen.
I don't know footwork, but it is said, as most qb's, his footwork needs work. He doesn't have a big arm, but he can loft it 60 yards, so...
Big advantage, Allen. He comes from a pro style offense, too. He's smart, loves the game, tough, doesn't have the injuries... but the pros, he'll need to hit those small windows.
The biggest concern is his accuracy - pretty much the last two years,58.6 his highest, for 2017. He doesn't have stars around him, either though. We'll see how it goes with him and Allen. BTW, how can it be said he hits all three levels with accuracy, with those numbers? Pretty much my guess is, it's the circumstances he plays in -pro style doesn't lend itself to high qb stats.
He stares down his receivers a lot. I hate that. I just wonder if it's habit because he knows his oline can't give him time to scan the field, or he doesn't see the field.
He runs a 4.9 by all the sources I've seen. Which means, depending on your offense, it could be a problem. Go to the patriots, andwho cares - Brady might run a 4.9, i don't know.
I think he will be a terrific back up, or maybe get lucky and fit in with the right offense and start one day, who knows.
Impressive kid, but doesn't have the upside that some do. Oh, some places list him at 6'4", and then I saw where he was 6'2.5". Maybe he grew. Really tough choices. I think Mayfield and Rudolph seem to me to definitely have a higher ceiling.
If Allen shows bad accuracy at the senior bowl, his mechanics will take time to adjust.
In that case, in this draft - Mason Rudolph may very well be the best qb in this draft. He even runs a 4.7 - that's good for his size.
This draft is going to be freakin fascinating.
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- Did cal just play the "hick card?"
- And, h, Jackson Hole is one of the favorite places I've ever visited... absolutely gorgeous.
DraftScouts.com.....which, for some reason Tour thinks is invalid...probably because they disagree with him somewhat...
lol... makes a false comment about my view of DraftScout and then posts a link to CBS.
Try to keep up...
CBS has historically been "powered by DraftScout" (ring a bell?) apparently no longer is... at least it's not to this point.
For the record and comparison here is a link to the DraftScout "Top 750" where QBs hold two of the top three spots and three of the top eight.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/top750.php?draftyear=2018&sortby=rateall&order=ASC
Do the lists look to be interchangeable? Which more closer resembles the other major lists that have been published?
And...in theory.....per that Draftscout report..they go along with what you say. NONE or only 1 of those QBs is actually Top Ten Talent. So....by their estimation, apparently....any QB taken above the 10 pick can likely be considered overdrafting.....for need. Per them....we should be taking the likes of Chubb, Derwin James, Fitzpatrick, Roquon Smith...even Barkley...rather than a QB at either 1 or 4.
Ignorant is the only word for this post. Rankings... even when attributed to the correct source... are never as rigid as 1-2-3. Teams cluster players of similar talent levels and then assuming there are no "red flags" they let need, fit, and positional importance break ties.
Only question is how willful is the ignorance on display.
- Did cal just play the "hick card?"
- And, h, Jackson Hole is one of the favorite places I've ever visited... absolutely gorgeous.
Been through, and stayed in Jackson many times. Last time, The Gun Barrel was great if you're into game like venison and elk for dinner. For those who imbibe, they should put the Cowboy Bar on their bucket list. Go downstairs and there's a 4 Star dining experience you wouldn't expect otherwise. In our wilder days, we played leapfrog through the town square, hard to believe there was alcohol involved.
Last time through it looked like some of the other legendary watering holes like The Silver Dollar and Rancher didn't survive.
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