The First-pick Draft game thread

[PoeticG]

This draft I tried to swoop in and get the double first round picks from the Bills, but they traded them to INDY to move up to take Rosen. 

I gave the Colts our 3 second rounders the extra 4th and 5th round picks this year for the number 21 and 22 picks. 

I feel like this is a very productive draft.

-Got the future QB

-Franchise RB

-JT replacement at LT

-Tretter's upgrade, should help our rushing attack as well

-A long and fast WR with good hands

-A massive CB with potential to cover bigger WRs and TEs

-Georgia's line lead the way for 2 outstanding rushers, adding him to an already nasty OL with pay dividends

-A do it all FB that can help the offense

-An absolute beast DT to plug up the middle with Shelton to allow or edge rushers and LBs to make plays

*And did this all without touching next years picks. The game score be damned, this is a playoff team right here!

Your score is: 19916 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 1 Pick 21 (BUF): Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (B)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Holton Hill, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Kentavius Street, DT, North Carolina State (A-)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

Is Marcus Allen comparable to Minkah Fitzpatrick? 

Marcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 NicoleMarcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 Nicole

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

Marcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 NicoleMarcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 Nicole

Gip, I love your high standards in research. 

But OJ was one he11 of a talent both on the field and with a ginsu. Just look what he did in snowy Buffalo and Brentwood. 

[PoeticG]

@the-gipper said:

Marcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 NicoleMarcus Allen is comparable to O.J. Simpson. In fact they screwed the same woman 80 Nicole

Marcus Allen is a safety out of Penn State. I actually first saw him when I was watching tape on Barkley. 

I brought him up because a lot of people have been saying, "why take a RB high when you can find good RBs later in the draft?" 

It is literally the same with EVERY position in the game. It's really about the player and the work you think they will be able to put in to become great at the next level. 

Some players like Tom Brady drafted in the 6th round love the game and put in the work. Where players like Manziel would rather party and don't take it as serious are out in a few years. Then there is the talent level to factor in as well. ALL these guys are talented, ALL OF THEM. It's about the work, the passion and the drive to be great to makes the difference. 

[wargograw]

Holton Hill is a 5th rounder right now? He's very, very good.

[PoeticG]

@wargograw said:

Holton Hill is a 5th rounder right now? He's very, very good.

I think he slipped a little in the draft I was doing. He may be a day 2 guy. 3rdish?

[JamesMadisonSkinsfan]

FanSpeak using Matt Miller's draft board - no trades:

1.1: Sam Darnold, QB USC (or Rosen, you pick)
1.4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS Alabama
2.1: Sony Michel, RB Georgia
2.3: Orlando Brown, OT Oklahoma
2.31: Jaire Alexander, CB Louisville
3.1: Will Hernandez, OG UTEP
4.1: Trenton Thompson, DT Georgia
4.23: Deonte Burnett, WR USC

That'll do. Assuming you sign a CB in FA (Trumane Johnson?), WR (Allen Robinson?), a QB (Alex Smith?) to hold things down for the QB1 to learn, and some LB depth, I think this would make the team instantly competitive. 

[PoeticG]

1: R1P1

RB SAQUON BARKLEY

PENN STATE

4: R1P4

S MINKAH FITZPATRICK

ALABAMA

33: R2P1

CB ISAIAH OLIVER

COLORADO

35: R2P3

C BILLY PRICE

OHIO STATE

63: R2P31

WR SIMMIE COBBS JR.

INDIANA

65: R3P1

RB RASHAAD PENNY

SAN DIEGO STATE

103: R4P1

CB DONTE JACKSON

LSU

125: R4P23

EDGE JOJO WICKER

ARIZONA STATE

140: R5P1

TE IAN THOMAS

INDIANA

161: R5P22

CB HOLTON HILL

TEXAS

178: R6P1

FB DIMITRI FLOWERS

OKLAHOMA

219: R7P1 - Rd7 - Eq. St. Brown in round 7?!

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

Marcus Allen is a safety out of Penn State. I actually first saw him when I was watching tape on Barkley. 

I brought him up because a lot of people have been saying, "why take a RB high when you can find good RBs later in the draft?" 

It is literally the same with EVERY position in the game. It's really about the player and the work you think they will be able to put in to become great at the next level. 

Some players like Tom Brady drafted in the 6th round love the game and put in the work. Where players like Manziel would rather party and don't take it as serious are out in a few years. Then there is the talent level to factor in as well. ALL these guys are talented, ALL OF THEM. It's about the work, the passion and the drive to be great to makes the difference. 

Jesus H. Christ Po.....do you have neither a sense of humor nor a sense of irony?   Yea, we all fuycking know that the Marcus Allen referred to is not the Marcus Allen, the USC RB Heisman Trophy winner, SB MVP.....who had coitus with OJ Simpson's wife.  

We all know that...do you really think we were confused with some potential mid round DB from Bumfuyck State?

[LondonBrown]

Your score is: 23087 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 3: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Terrell Edmunds, SS, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Azeem Victor, ILB, Washington (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

[JamesMadisonSkinsfan]

Threw together a FanSpeak Ultimate GM using the Browns ... curiously the top FA QBs to make it through the initial simulation were Case Keenum, Sam Bradford and Teddy Twatwater. Smith, Cousins, etc. got retained. Not sure how realistic that is, but it was what I was dealt ... so here's what I did. And admittedly, I'm not too familiar with your LB situation and I'm pretty accustomed to the 3-4 personnel and I don't know how your LBs fit into the newish scheme, so I didn't target any LBs in FA for fear that I was getting the "wrong" guy ... I didn't bother with any depth types ... although having scoured the Browns roster I'm not sure I see where you guys lack a ton of depth that couldn't be solved with adding 1 top-flight FA and addressing the position with an early draft pick (See WR, CB). Anyway, you guys are loaded with talent and players that as a Redskins fan, I wanted over the last couple drafts. So here's what I got ...

CB Trumane Johnson - 5 years, $80 million, $40 million guaranteed
WR Jarvis Landry - 5 years, $65 million, $32 million guaranteed
C Weston Richberg - 5 years, $35 million, $10 million guaranteed
RB Le'Veon Bell - 5 years, $75 million, $40 million guaranteed

Lots of $$ thrown around ... and without a bonafide starter at QB going into the draft, these guys (particularly Bell and Landry) may balk at coming to Cleveland to play with a rookie QB ... also I overpaid for Richberg, totally spaced on his concussion this year. He won't get that much. I'd regret that decision if it didn't still leave the Browns with $78 million in cap space. 

Draft:

1.1: Sam Darnold, QB USC
1.4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS Alabama
2.1: Connor Williams, OT Texas
2.3: Tremaine Edmunds, LB Virginia Tech
2.31: Auden Tate, WR Florida State
3.1: M.J. Stewart, CB North Carolina
4.1: B.J. Hill, DT NC State
4.23: Bo Scarborough, RB Alabama
5.1: Shaquem Griffin, LB UCF
5.22: J.C. Jackson, CB Maryland
6.1: Jake Weineke, WR South Dakota State
7.1: Siran Neal, CB Jacksonville State

Between the crazy spending spree of FA and the draft, I like where the Browns sit. Issue may arise at QB, putting Darnold in a position to start when he may not be ready, or just hope Kizer with the talent around him, can take the next steps until Darnold is ready. Because outside of the QB position, the rest of the team would be in pretty good shape. 

[darren15]

Your score is: 23959 (GRADE: A+) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 1 Pick 11 (MIA): Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 2 (NYG): Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: DaRon Payne, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 31: Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2 (NYG): Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: DCota Dixon, SS, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Azeem Victor, ILB, Washington (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Nick Gates, OG, Nebraska (A+)

Your Future Picks: 
2019 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick (MIA)
2020 Round 1 Pick

[darren15]

Your score is: 24948 (GRADE: A+) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (OAK): Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 1 Pick 11 (MIA): Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 5 (NYJ): Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 11 (OAK): Mike McCray, OLB, Michigan (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina AT (A)
Round 6 Pick 4 (IND): Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21 (LAR): Adonis Alexander, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 6 Pick 27 (N.O.): Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Jack Cichy, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3 (IND): Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida (A+)

Your Future Picks: 
2019 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick (NYJ)
2020 Round 1 Pick

[darren15]

The 4 first rounders draft

Your score is: 24297 (GRADE: A+) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12 (CINN): Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 1 Pick 14 (G.B.): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (CINN): Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A)
Round 2 Pick 32: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 11 (OAK): DeShon Elliott, SS, Texas (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Greg Gaines, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23: Holton Hill, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Trey Quinn, WR, Southern Methodist (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Andrew Brown, DE, Virginia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Azeem Victor, ILB, Washington (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada (A+)

Your Future Picks: 
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

[calfoxwc]

@poeticg said:

It is literally the same with EVERY position in the game. It's really about the player and the work you think they will be able to put in to become great at the next level. 

no, it isn't, really. It depends on the strength of the talent later on. Sometimes the later talent doesn't compare to the top one or two guys at all. Meaning, the talent/intangibles drop  off to unacceptable levels for an immediate starter. For example, drafting the OG from ND really high, when you could get Billy Price maybe? in the second round or a few other OG's? This year, the RB's are deep, so you could go deeper into the draft and get a very good/maybe great RB. There will be some RB's who become immediate impact players - despite not having the outstanding top abilities of Barkley. FS isn't a deep class, IMHO. CB is.QB is... WR - not a top heavy class...

[Tacosman]

if we end up with an undersized qb with a mediocre arm(Mayfield) and a freaking rb with the #1 and #4 picks in the draft, that would be an absolute disaster.

Mayfields game doesn't translate to the nfl as a quality starter imo.  When he's not on his spot he doesn't have an nfl arm.  And against nfl defenders he isn't going to be quick enough to get out of the pocket and re-establish a good launch point like he could in college. 

And even though barkley is a stud, no way should we take a rb in the top 4 overall picks. 

take rosen and then trade the #4 overall....

[blitzz2]

Your score is: 23758 (GRADE: A) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (OAK): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (B)
Round 2 Pick 3: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia (B)
Round 2 Pick 6 (T.B.): Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 32: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin Toliver II, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Jeff Holland, OLB, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Folorunso Fatukasi, DT, Connecticut (A)
Round 5 Pick 22: Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Azeem Victor, ILB, Washington (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)

Your Future Picks: 
2019 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick (T.B.)
2020 Round 1 Pick

[TexasAg1969]

blitzz2-that program screwed you on Sony Michel @ #2 pick 3. That should be an A++ there. Hopefully they fix that program after the combine.

[jiggins7919]

If we don't get Kirk Cousins, which nobody on earth expects us to do, the ONLY THING I care about regarding the #1 pick is getting our top rated QB. I don't care where the analysts say this guy should go. I don't care if everyone calls us idiots. I don't care if this QB would've been available in the SECOND round, I just want us to identify our favorite QB, and DRAFT HIM #1. Don't get cute. Don't try to maximize the pick value. Don't try to put "your stamp on the draft". Identify your favorite guy, and freaking take him. We can do this because we have the #4, which hardly any other team has EVER had. We actually get to safely take our top QB and still get to play around with early picks. 

[blitzz2]

@texasag1969 said:

blitzz2-that program screwed you on Sony Michel @ #2 pick 3. That should be an A++ there. Hopefully they fix that program after the combine.

Made me do a double take for sure.