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Ongoing Questions re: Browns, History, Current & Past Team & Players

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  • OrionO Orion

    @the-gipper said:

    And this is why you cannont ask fans about "what happened"  because many if not most of them will get it double dumbass dead wrong.....like in #1 above.

    Yes, The Gipper has a different take.   -  Stick with mine.

    @orion said:

    Yes, The Gipper has a different take.   -  Stick with mine.

    You are entitled to your own opinion.  You are not entitled to you own set of facts.  Your facts are simply wrong.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    I can't remember who said this about Carmen Policy, but everyone knows someone like this:

    "If you want to know who the richest person is in any room, just look and see who Carmen Policy is talking to..."

    @dutch-oven said:

    I can't remember who said this about Carmen Policy, but everyone knows someone like this:

    "If you want to know who the richest person is in any room, just look and see who Carmen Policy is talking to..."

    Oh yeah "Charmin' Carmen" used to live about 2 miles from me, I also knew his old law partner. He tagged along to SF back during their heyday and unfortunately ended up as part of the BROWNS 2.0 rebuild. 

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!

  • --About Cleveland's first game and first couple seasons in the AAFC... read the bold...

    After a training camp at Bowling Green State University, the Browns played their first game in September 1946 at Cleveland Stadium.[76] A crowd of 60,135 people showed up to see the Browns beat the Miami Seahawks 44–0, then a record attendance mark for professional football.[77] That touched off a string of wins; the team ended the season with a 12–2 record and the top spot in the AAFC's western division.[78] The Browns then beat the AAFC's New York Yankees in the championship.[79]

    Cleveland won the AAFC championship again in 1947 behind an offensive attack that employed the forward pass more frequently and effectively than was typical at the time.[80] The Browns' offensive success was driven by Brown's version of the T formation, which was gradually replacing the single-wing formation as football's most popular and effective scheme.[81]

    The Browns won every game in the 1948 season, a feat that went unmatched until the Miami Dolphins (coached by Brown disciple Don Shula) did it in 1972.[80]Cleveland then won the AAFC championship for the fourth time in a row in 1949. By then, however, the league was struggling for survival, due in part to the Browns' dominance.[82] Attendance at games dwindled in 1948 and 1949 as fans lost interest in lopsided victories, and at the end of the 1949 season the AAFC dissolved. Three of its teams, the San Francisco 49ers, the Baltimore Colts and the Browns, merged into the NFL.[82] The Browns picked up a few good former AAFC players from other teams, including offensive guard Abe Gibron and defensive end Len Ford, but some observers saw Brown's team as the lone standout in an otherwise minor league.[83]

    ...Wow dawg, we really just got sick of winning.... I guess this is payback... what. a. bitch. 🙁

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • S SissyBoyFloyd

    Being new to the Browns' Nation I want to learn lots of things.  So will keep my general questions to this one thread, instead of making a new thread for every question.  Others are welcome to join me in learning by asking their own questions here.

    1.  Help me understand the Browns losing their team to Baltimore.  How could that happen, why did it happen, what did it accomplish for that team and the league?

    2.  Maybe I will make this into a poll, but for now:  What has been the #1 Browns' problem?  What is the may reason they find themselves in such a situation?  Please tell me what you think the 1 main reason that would sum all this up.  Is it bad luck, GM, coaches, poor drafting, player themselves, the city of Cleveland for some reason, something hovering over this team like a curse, what is it in your head that makes the most sense to you, a fan?

    3.  For the sake of levity after reading #2:  If Browns were facing the Raiders, and a brawl broke out in one isolated area of the stadium filled with a somewhat equal number of both teams fans, who would win, the Raider fans or Brown fans?  Is there one particular group of Browns' fans which would best represent you in such a skirmish? 

    @sissyboyfloyd said:

    2.  Maybe I will make this into a poll, but for now:  What has been the #1 Browns' problem?  What is the may reason they find themselves in such a situation?

    I have never seen a better explanation of how miraculously inept the Browns are than is detailed in this short video.  Please watch it.  The bottomless pit of The Browns ineptitude is nothing short of supernatural. 

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