QB mike white
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I've only watched 2 of his games, both from this year. Vs GA State and MTSU.
What I've seen I have really enjoyed. Mainly because I like his eye work. A bit long armed in his throwing motion... but there IS something there that shows a certain potential that makes me giddy. Will be watching more soon.
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He will likely be better than Allen in the pros
Cal flunked math 64% or 65% < 70% definitely- better than 56%. Only thing this thread proves is he's got his head so far up Allen's a$$ it's starting to get funny.
Cal flunked math 64% or 65% < 70% definitely- better than 56%. Only thing this thread proves is he's got his head so far up Allen's a$$ it's starting to get funny.
Lay off Larry. You're throwing all the votes his way in the PoG BoneheadAward Competition.
The rest of us won't have a chance to win it at this rate.
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Thoughts? I say pick him up later in the draft. Remove Hogan from the qb room and give this kid a shot. Decent college numbers.
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Take him in the fifth or sixth round and that will be fine
nfldraftcountdown has him round 2-3 already, way before the combine. My opinion, after the combine he is at least
a lock for a high round two pick.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128411&draftyear=2018&genpos=QB
nfldraftcountdown has him round 2-3 already, way before the combine. My opinion, after the combine he is at least
a lock for a high round two pick.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128411&draftyear=2018&genpos=QB
The question was: where should the Browns take him? If he goes in round 2...he won't be coming to the Browns....but to some other team that likely has an established QB.
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probably. but then there's Trubisky.... we'll see how the draft goes - it is going to be great to watch it unfold this year.
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probably. but then there's Trubisky.... we'll see how the draft goes - it is going to be great to watch it unfold this year.
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Trubisky is the example of how a qb could skyrocket to the top ot the draft. He eneded up being an overall #2.
We're talking about White here. NFLdraftcountdown has him a 2/3 round guy already. Corollary much?
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Trubisky is the example of how a qb could skyrocket to the top ot the draft. He eneded up being an overall #2.
We're talking about White here. NFLdraftcountdown has him a 2/3 round guy already. Corollary much?
Trubisky is the example of how a qb could skyrocket to the top ot the draft. He eneded up being an overall #2.
We're talking about White here. NFLdraftcountdown has him a 2/3 round guy already. Corollary much?
OK, sorry, I underestimated White. Seems Walter Football does too.
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Trubisky is the example of how a qb could skyrocket to the top ot the draft. He eneded up being an overall #2.
We're talking about White here. NFLdraftcountdown has him a 2/3 round guy already. Corollary much?
Trubisky is the example of how a qb could skyrocket to the top ot the draft. He eneded up being an overall #2.
We're talking about White here. NFLdraftcountdown has him a 2/3 round guy already. Corollary much?
I can ascertain a corrallary just fine....if one is set up and made in a cogent manner. Yours fell short on that count.
But I get what you are saying now. You think that this guy.....who may have been rated like a 6th/7th/UDFA....is now shooting up to where he may be snagged in round 2?
I will believe it when I see it. (and remember...I have an affinity toward WKy.....as my Dad was a Bowling Green Ky. native.
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OK, sorry, I underestimated White. Seems Walter Football does too.
Here are CBS rankings:
10 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St. Sr QB 1 6-5 230 14 Lamar Jackson Louisville Jr QB 2 6-3 200 16 Josh Rosen UCLA Jr QB 3 6-4 220 21 Sam Darnold USC Soph QB 4 6-4 225 39 Baker Mayfield Oklahoma Sr QB 5 6-1 218 119 Josh Allen Wyoming Jr QB 6 6-5 233 155 Logan Woodside Toledo Sr QB 7 6-2 201 168 Mike White Western Ky. Sr QB 8 6-4 225 187 Kyle Lauletta Richmond Sr QB 9 6-3 215 195 Nick Stevens Colorado St. Sr QB 10 6-3 200 200 Riley Ferguson Memphis Sr QB 11 6-4 210 220 Luke Falk Wash. State Sr QB 12 6-4 225 They have him as about a 5th rounder.
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Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
Height: 6-4. Weight: 221. Arm: 32.63. Hand: 9.38.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2018): 5-FA.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2018QB.php#ixzz571Z7hDsUWalter has him the same.....5th round to UDFA.
OK....so, I am sorry...I must have missed it. Who has him going as high as round 2?
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Rudolph and Jackson as the top two?? Good thing I'm not drinking anything at the keyboard anymore, I'd have spit it out,
laughing. we'll see how it all turns out. They have him going as high as round two.
EDIT:
My bad, it was http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128411&draftyear=2018&genpos=QB
Name: Mike White (Transfer from South Florida)
College: Western Kentucky Number: 14
Height: 6-4 Weight: 221
Position: QB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2018
40 Low: 4.78 40 Time: 4.87 40 High: 4.98
Projected Round: 2-3 Stock:
Rated number 7 out of 115 QB's 82 / 2381 TOTAL -
Rudolph and Jackson as the top two?? Good thing I'm not drinking anything at the keyboard anymore, I'd have spit it out,
laughing. we'll see how it all turns out. They have him going as high as round two.
EDIT:
My bad, it was http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=128411&draftyear=2018&genpos=QB
Name: Mike White (Transfer from South Florida)
College: Western Kentucky Number: 14
Height: 6-4 Weight: 221
Position: QB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2018
40 Low: 4.78 40 Time: 4.87 40 High: 4.98
Projected Round: 2-3 Stock:
Rated number 7 out of 115 QB's 82 / 2381 TOTALRudolph and Jackson as the top two?? Good thing I'm not drinking anything at the keyboard anymore, I'd have spit it out,
laughing. we'll see how it all turns out.
I see....it was Draft Scout that had White as a a 2-3 round pick.
And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.
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OK, sorry, I underestimated White. Seems Walter Football does too.
Here are CBS rankings:
10 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St. Sr QB 1 6-5 230 14 Lamar Jackson Louisville Jr QB 2 6-3 200 16 Josh Rosen UCLA Jr QB 3 6-4 220 21 Sam Darnold USC Soph QB 4 6-4 225 39 Baker Mayfield Oklahoma Sr QB 5 6-1 218 119 Josh Allen Wyoming Jr QB 6 6-5 233 155 Logan Woodside Toledo Sr QB 7 6-2 201 168 Mike White Western Ky. Sr QB 8 6-4 225 187 Kyle Lauletta Richmond Sr QB 9 6-3 215 195 Nick Stevens Colorado St. Sr QB 10 6-3 200 200 Riley Ferguson Memphis Sr QB 11 6-4 210 220 Luke Falk Wash. State Sr QB 12 6-4 225 They have him as about a 5th rounder.
Here are CBS rankings:
10 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St. Sr QB 1 6-5 230 14 Lamar Jackson Louisville Jr QB 2 6-3 200 They have him as about a 5th rounder.
I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.
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Rudolph and Jackson as the top two?? Good thing I'm not drinking anything at the keyboard anymore, I'd have spit it out,
laughing. we'll see how it all turns out.
I see....it was Draft Scout that had White as a a 2-3 round pick.
And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.
I see....it was Draft Scout that had White as a a 2-3 round pick.
And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.
Somehow you missed the weeden when watching Rudolph?
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Here are CBS rankings:
10 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St. Sr QB 1 6-5 230 14 Lamar Jackson Louisville Jr QB 2 6-3 200 They have him as about a 5th rounder.
I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.
I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.
Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.
ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.
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I see....it was Draft Scout that had White as a a 2-3 round pick.
And...honestly at this point...I would rather see either Rudolph and Jackson ....and even White, over DeShone Allen...aka, Brandon Weeden Jr. The more I look into Allen....the more that that is what I see of him.
Somehow you missed the weeden when watching Rudolph?
Somehow you missed the weeden when watching Rudolph?
No...I didn't miss it because I didn't see it. (I have heard that Allen basically fits that mold) But I did note the same reservation that I had for Weeden....and Mayfield....and everyone else that has come out of the Big 12: Big 12 QBs cannot be trusted....as they have never been very successful.
As someone noted: NO Big 12 QB since the inception of the league (in like 1994) has ever won an NFL playoff game. The best ever has been Andy Dalton....who has lost 4 playoff games.
If the best the Browns can do with their drafting of a QB is to get another Dalton.....then I am all for going elsewhere with the pick.
I think it boils down to one of the Pac 12 guys likely. Allen....we got his clone now in Kizer. Mayfield and Rudolph....the Big 12 curse. Jackson....not unless we want like a Mike Vick type clone...who cannot throw nearly as well as Vick did.
No....to me....it looks like Darnold or Rosen.
So....for one of them its:
And:
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I agree with some of CBS' opinions- but care to explain how in the world they can have Mason Rudolph rated as their #1 QB prospect and the 5th quarterback taken in the draft? Other than their outlier- no other mock I've seen has Rudolph in the first round, and certainly not the #1 QB prospect. Does not compute.
Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.
ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.
Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.
ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.
Go ahead and keep being obtuse. So yeah, if different guys are doing the rankings\draft I can see it. But if Rudolph is truly the #1 prospect (and as I pointed out only CBS does- and that's a major outlier in the discussion) there is absolutely no way in hell four other quarterback needy teams are going to pass on him.
Sorry if you think an outlier fits your argument. Walter has him #6 qb, ditto NFL.com. SI and Jeremiah don't even have him in the top 50 prospects. So CBS having him drafted (at best) in the lower half of the first round fits what the other draftniks and talking heads think about his ability. In other words, whoever at CBS ranked him the #1 qb prospect is crack head BS, and doubtless they'll change it after the combine. The new term being bandied around is click bait.
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Sure it computes. They have Rudolph ranked as the best prospect.....but Mock Drafts are NOT designed to rank prospects....they are projections of what the author of the mock thinks that teams will do. We have gone over this before. It is also likely that it is a different writer that does the mock than does the prospect ranking.
ALL of these are, after all.....just some mope's personal opinions on things....be it Kiper, McShay, Brugler, Mayock, you, me, or any other gasbag with a forum to get their opinions heard.
Go ahead and keep being obtuse. So yeah, if different guys are doing the rankings\draft I can see it. But if Rudolph is truly the #1 prospect (and as I pointed out only CBS does- and that's a major outlier in the discussion) there is absolutely no way in hell four other quarterback needy teams are going to pass on him.
Sorry if you think an outlier fits your argument. Walter has him #6 qb, ditto NFL.com. SI and Jeremiah don't even have him in the top 50 prospects. So CBS having him drafted (at best) in the lower half of the first round fits what the other draftniks and talking heads think about his ability. In other words, whoever at CBS ranked him the #1 qb prospect is crack head BS, and doubtless they'll change it after the combine. The new term being bandied around is click bait.
Go ahead and keep being obtuse. So yeah, if different guys are doing the rankings\draft I can see it. But if Rudolph is truly the #1 prospect (and as I pointed out only CBS does- and that's a major outlier in the discussion) there is absolutely no way in hell four other quarterback needy teams are going to pass on him.
Sorry if you think an outlier fits your argument. Walter has him #6 qb, ditto NFL.com. SI and Jeremiah don't even have him in the top 50 prospects. So CBS having him drafted (at best) in the lower half of the first round fits what the other draftniks and talking heads think about his ability. In other words, whoever at CBS ranked him the #1 qb prospect is crack head BS, and doubtless they'll change it after the combine. The new term being bandied around is click bait.
Sorry Larry....you are the one being obtuse because: A. You are entering TCPO type of mental malfunction because you still do not seem to be able to tell the difference between a prospects rating and a mock draft...and B. I am NOT saying that Rudolph is the best prospect in the minds of the mass media.....I understand that most mock drafts and ratings of him do not have him among the top prospects.
What I AM saying is that NO ONE among this crop of QB prospects is all that impressive to me......that NONE of them are what any of us should think of as a sure thing. That for all any of us know this guy could be as good or better than all the others when the time comes to truly evaluate this group of QBs: i.e 3-5 years later.
I mean...look at it this way...I see this draft class as potentially similar to 2012 If anyone said they would think that the guy that was projected to be the 6th best QB of the bunch would turn out to be the best guy....then many of you on here would have said that whoever said that is crack head BS.....and would have doubted that would change. But here you go....QBs in 2012 in order in which they were drafted:
1. Andrew Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Ryan Tannehill
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Brock Osweiler
6. Russell Wilson
7. Nick Foles
8. Kirk Cousins
Now...who would have thought that it was the guys that were the 6th and 7th QBs taken that year would be the ones to be Super Bowl winning starting QBs.....and that the guy that was 8th would be in line to become the highest paid QB in history.
So...the bottom line is: don't be all so effing Socksure that all these rating services and mock drafts will get things right. Would only that the
Browns not have been the dumbarses of the world and taken those 6-7-8th ranked QBs...instead of the one they got. -
all this gipper slobber over run run rudolph is disgusting.....
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