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  • @tour2ma said:

    Especially McGlinchey... still too high for him. And the fumble frequency info has put me off the Michel wagon. Agree on Ward... 5'11 may not measure up, but a 39" vert makes up for it.

    Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft..

    Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-)
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+)

    Not only the fumble rate with Michel, but his age too.  He's over two years older than Guice and Jones.

    Here's the carry to fumble ratio for some of the top RB's: https://www.footballcouchscout.com/copy-of-qb

    Ronald Jones, EXCEPTIONAL ball security, 207:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Saquon Barkley, VERY GOOD ball security, 193:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kerryon Johnson, VERY GOOD ball security, 191:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Josh Adams, VERY GOOD ball security, 174:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    John Kelly, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 123:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Royce Freeman, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 114:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Rashaad Penny, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 106:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Darius Guice, AVERAGE ball security, 100:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nick Chubb, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 98:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Bo Scarbrough, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 96:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Mark Walton, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 90:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nyheim Hines, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 87:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Akrum Wadley, VERY POOR ball security, 67:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kalen Ballage, VERY POOR ball security, 66:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Sony Michel, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio.

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    @jimbojones said:

    Not only the fumble rate with Michael, but his age too.  He's over two years older older than Guice and Jones.

    Here's the carry to fumble ratio for some of the top RB's: https://www.footballcouchscout.com/copy-of-qb

    Ronald Jones, EXCEPTIONAL ball security, 207:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Saquon Barkley, VERY GOOD ball security, 193:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kerryon Johnson, VERY GOOD ball security, 191:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Josh Adams, VERY GOOD ball security, 174:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    John Kelly, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 123:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Royce Freeman, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 114:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Rashaad Penny, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 106:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Darius Guice, AVERAGE ball security, 100:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Bo Scarbrough, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 96:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Mark Walton, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 90:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nyheim Hines, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 87:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Akrum Wadley, VERY POOR ball security, 67:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kalen Ballage, VERY POOR ball security, 66:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nick Chubb, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Sony Michel, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio.

    I don't really know that Ronald Jones 207:1 ratio is that much more exceptional than Barkley's at 193:1...

    They are both exceptional, I would add Johnson's number as well. There isn't that much separation between them. 

  • @jimbojones said:

    I'd love this scenario.  We basically trade Bradley Chubb for McGlinchey, Hurst and Hubbard, though not sure I'd go with those exact guys with some of the other names on the board.

    Especially McGlinchey... still too high for him. And the fumble frequency info has put me off the Michel wagon. Agree on Ward... 5'11 may not measure up, but a 39" vert makes up for it.

    Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft..

    Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-)
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+)

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    @tour2ma said:

    Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft..

    Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-)
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+)

    good looking draft haul. Not familar with Ragnow at G nor C but we did just resign Reiter at C(spotrac).Tony Brown is a good value pick as a late 2nd rounder.TB looked great in combine drills.Draft Tracker compares him to Johnson Bademosi. not with them on that, but a 6 footer at 198 that runs a 4.35 40's..I'd say G.Williams has a nickel package for T. Brown   

  • @tour2ma said:

    Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft..

    Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-)
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+)

    good looking draft haul. Not familar with Ragnow at G nor C but we did just resign Reiter at C(spotrac).Tony Brown is a good value pick as a late 2nd rounder.TB looked great in combine drills.Draft Tracker compares him to Johnson Bademosi. not with them on that, but a 6 footer at 198 that runs a 4.35 40's..I'd say G.Williams has a nickel package for T. Brown   

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @gumby73 said:

    good looking draft. Not familar with Ragnow at G nor C but we did just resign Reiter at C(spotrac).Tony Brown is a good value pick as a late 2nd rounder  

    I could not resist Ragnow there... while thought of primarily as an inside guy, at 6'5 he actually can play OT as well. Plus I think he'd push Reiter very hard for the starting job. Pared with Rankin who can play OT or OG, the OL flexibility depth would be off the charts.

    Both of the BAMA corners, Averett as well as Brown, get a lot less respect than they deserve, IMO. While not elite, both measured well at the Combine, can cover and, since they played for Saban, you know they can tackle.

  • @jimbojones said:

    Not only the fumble rate with Michael, but his age too.  He's over two years older older than Guice and Jones.

    Here's the carry to fumble ratio for some of the top RB's: https://www.footballcouchscout.com/copy-of-qb

    Ronald Jones, EXCEPTIONAL ball security, 207:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Saquon Barkley, VERY GOOD ball security, 193:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kerryon Johnson, VERY GOOD ball security, 191:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Josh Adams, VERY GOOD ball security, 174:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    John Kelly, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 123:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Royce Freeman, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 114:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Rashaad Penny, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 106:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Darius Guice, AVERAGE ball security, 100:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Bo Scarbrough, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 96:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Mark Walton, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 90:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nyheim Hines, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 87:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Akrum Wadley, VERY POOR ball security, 67:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Kalen Ballage, VERY POOR ball security, 66:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Nick Chubb, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio.
    Sony Michel, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio.

    I don't really know that Ronald Jones 207:1 ratio is that much more exceptional than Barkley's at 193:1...

    They are both exceptional, I would add Johnson's number as well. There isn't that much separation between them. 

    J JimboJones wrote on last edited by JimboJones

    @poeticg said:

    I don't really know that Ronald Jones 207:1 ratio is that much more exceptional than Barkley's at 193:1...

    They are both exceptional, I would add Johnson's number as well. There isn't that much separation between them. 

    If you can think of a medium phrase to put between "exceptional" and "very good", I'll edit the post.

    Barkley just isn't on Jones' level.😎

  • J JimboJones wrote on last edited by JimboJones

    My first time doing one of these. 

    Was going to take a LT and C in the 2nd but chose to load up on Defense instead.😊

    Your score is: 23264 (GRADE: A+) 

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Ward, Denzel, CB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Green, Rasheem, DE, Southern California (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Jones II, Ronald, RB, Southern California (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA):  Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 13 (WASH):  ValdesScantling, Marquez, WR, South Florida (A+)

  • My first time doing one of these. 

    Was going to take a LT and C in the 2nd but chose to load up on Defense instead.😊

    Your score is: 23264 (GRADE: A+) 

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Ward, Denzel, CB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Green, Rasheem, DE, Southern California (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Jones II, Ronald, RB, Southern California (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA):  Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 13 (WASH):  ValdesScantling, Marquez, WR, South Florida (A+)

    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by

    @jimbojones said:

    My first time doing one of these. 

    Was going to take a LT and C in the 2nd but chose to load up on Defense instead.😊

    This doesn't seem very realistic though.

    Your score is: 23264 (GRADE: A+) 

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A)
    Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF):  Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
    Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF):  Ward, Denzel, CB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Green, Rasheem, DE, Southern California (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF):  Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Jones II, Ronald, RB, Southern California (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA):  Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 13 (WASH):  ValdesScantling, Marquez, WR, South Florida (A+)

    If we draft Vita Vea high after trading Danny Shelton for a bag of footballs I want Dorsey fired immediately, don't even let him finish the draft

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Were the footballs fully inflated?

  • J JimboJones wrote on last edited by JimboJones

    Vita Vea is better in every aspect of football than Danny Shelton, so I wouldn't be confused if they picked him.

    Had a tough choice of Vita Vea or Derwin James at that pick, though.

    Funny thing is I didn't even realize Denzel Ward was still available until pick #22.  Must've been half asleep.

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by

    Your score is: 24527 (GRADE: A+) 

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1:  Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4:  Chubb, Bradley, DE, North Carolina State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 11 (N.E.):  Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (A)
    Round 2 Pick 22 (K.C.):  Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 31 (N.E.):  Jackson, Donte, CB, LSU (A)
    Round 3 Pick 9 (MIA):  Washington, James, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 14 (K.C.):  Sutton, Courtland, WR, Southern Methodist (A)
    Round 3 Pick 22 (K.C.):  Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Edmunds, Terrell, SS, Virginia Tech (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 23 (MIA):  Cole, Mason, C/OT, Michigan (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 30 (MIA):  Leonard, Darius, OLB/ILB, South Carolina State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Hearn, Taylor, OG, Clemson (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Nelson, Nick, CB, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Young, Kenny, ILB, UCLA (A+)

    Your Future Picks: 
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    Round 1 Pick 1:  Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A)
    Round 1 Pick 4:  Mayfield, Baker, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 1:  Price, Billy, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 3:  Oliver, Isaiah, CB, Colorado (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 32:  Allen, Marcus, FS, Penn State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14:  Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22:  Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 1:  Flowers, Dimitri, FB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 1:  Wims, Javon, WR, Georgia (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2019 Round 1 Pick
    2020 Round 1 Pick

  • B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by

    What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fumbling issue. Of all things a RB can solve, fumbling is one of them. I'm not saying to completely discredit it, but on the pecking order it is much lower than most things, IMOP

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    I have no idea what the statistics are but have the Browns ever picked their first round draft choice to the complete surprise of the consensus mock draft community? I mean what are the odds they do not take Sam darnold?

    WSS

  • What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fumbling issue. Of all things a RB can solve, fumbling is one of them. I'm not saying to completely discredit it, but on the pecking order it is much lower than most things, IMOP

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fumbling issue. Of all things a RB can solve, fumbling is one of them. I'm not saying to completely discredit it, but on the pecking order it is much lower than most things, IMOP

    Same attitude was applied when drafting Corey Coleman.  You see time and time again why that doesn't work out.  

  • What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fumbling issue. Of all things a RB can solve, fumbling is one of them. I'm not saying to completely discredit it, but on the pecking order it is much lower than most things, IMOP

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    https://www.first-pick.com/

  • What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fumbling issue. Of all things a RB can solve, fumbling is one of them. I'm not saying to completely discredit it, but on the pecking order it is much lower than most things, IMOP

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    What are you guys using for your mock draft scenarios? website?

    I don't understand this question.   Most mock drafts are just pulled out of someone's arse.

  • I have no idea what the statistics are but have the Browns ever picked their first round draft choice to the complete surprise of the consensus mock draft community? I mean what are the odds they do not take Sam darnold?

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no idea what the statistics are but have the Browns ever picked their first round draft choice to the complete surprise of the consensus mock draft community? I mean what are the odds they do not take Sam darnold?

    WSS

    I am sure they probably have.  We have had some goofy effers making picks.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/two-round-2018-nfl-mock-draft-broncos-take-barkley-as-qbs-go-1-2-3-4-after-trade/

    Love me a trade down with BUF, but not without the #22 as well as the #12. Plus I can't see them interested enough in Mayfield to move up. I mean they just ditched the similarly styled Tyrod.

    As for the CBS draft for us: 1.01 Allen, 1.12 Vea, 1.30 Connor Williams, 2.01 Ronnie Harrison, 2.32 James Washington... my TV would not survive the first night and my PC would not survive Night 2...

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/two-round-2018-nfl-mock-draft-broncos-take-barkley-as-qbs-go-1-2-3-4-after-trade/

    Love me a trade down with BUF, but not without the #22 as well as the #12. Plus I can't see them interested enough in Mayfield to move up. I mean they just ditched the similarly styled Tyrod.

    As for the CBS draft for us: 1.01 Allen, 1.12 Vea, 1.30 Connor Williams, 2.01 Ronnie Harrison, 2.32 James Washington... my TV would not survive the first night and my PC would not survive Night 2...

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Love me a trade down with BUF, but not without the #22 as well as the #12. Plus I can't see them interested enough in Mayfield to move up. I mean they just ditched the similarly styled Tyrod.

    As for the CBS draft for us: 1.01 Allen, 1.12 Vea, 1.30 Connor Williams, 2.01 Ronnie Harrison, 2.32 James Washington... my TV would not survive the first night and my PC would not survive Night 2...

    Ha

     and everything remain the same save for Rosen at number 1?

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    Love me a trade down with BUF, but not without the #22 as well as the #12. Plus I can't see them interested enough in Mayfield to move up. I mean they just ditched the similarly styled Tyrod.

    As for the CBS draft for us: 1.01 Allen, 1.12 Vea, 1.30 Connor Williams, 2.01 Ronnie Harrison, 2.32 James Washington... my TV would not survive the first night and my PC would not survive Night 2...

    Ha

     and everything remain the same save for Rosen at number 1?

    WSS

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    Ha....  and everything remain the same save for Rosen at number 1?

    While that would help, I think they'd still both be goners...

    Besides there not being enough apparent value in the trade... Vea doesn't help our pass rush... Williams will be eclipsed by at least three OTs in next year's draft; trading up for him would be a panic move on par with Wheezy... Harrison is duplicitous... Washington? Simply not high on my list..

    It's an unremarkable collection of prospects.