Todd Haley
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I'd be more excited about this hire if I wasn't convinced that Hue will be fired by the night of the 2018 season finale at the latest, and his entire coaching staff will vanish like a fart in the wind.
Haley could be our new HC when Huey is fired.
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Haley is a done deal. I think it's a good hire. He might be an butt but he's always had high powered offenses. Hell Williams is an butt and players love him.
I'd be more excited about this hire if I wasn't convinced that Hue will be fired by the night of the 2018 season finale at the latest, and his entire coaching staff will vanish like a fart in the wind.
I'd be more excited about this hire if I wasn't convinced that Hue will be fired by the night of the 2018 season finale at the latest, and his entire coaching staff will vanish like a fart in the wind.
IF Hue, Williams and Haley can stay in their own lane sky's the limit. With the influx of talent we are about to get they will be contenders.
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I'd be more excited about this hire if I wasn't convinced that Hue will be fired by the night of the 2018 season finale at the latest, and his entire coaching staff will vanish like a fart in the wind.
IF Hue, Williams and Haley can stay in their own lane sky's the limit. With the influx of talent we are about to get they will be contenders.
IF Hue, Williams and Haley can stay in their own lane sky's the limit. With the influx of talent we are about to get they will be contenders.
Lets win a game again before we go and say things like "they will be contenders"....

With the cap space available and the draft picks the Browns are set up for a turnaround. That is true.
But we've seen these opportunities before. Can they actually come through for once?
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IF Hue, Williams and Haley can stay in their own lane sky's the limit. With the influx of talent we are about to get they will be contenders.
Lets win a game again before we go and say things like "they will be contenders"....

With the cap space available and the draft picks the Browns are set up for a turnaround. That is true.
But we've seen these opportunities before. Can they actually come through for once?
Lets win a game again before we go and say things like "they will be contenders"....

With the cap space available and the draft picks the Browns are set up for a turnaround. That is true.
But we've seen these opportunities before. Can they actually come through for once?
I’ve been following the Browns since 2012, so you and most on here probably know more than me but has there actually been a time when we had this much cap space and this much draft capital?
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Hue needs an OC...in other words, someone else he can throw under the bus ?
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FWIW, this is from a guy I know (Steelers fan) who has connects in the league
To be fair, Kurt Warner just came out and said something to the effect that he loved playing with Haley as his OC and if he had any life left in his body he'd love to come back and play for him again.
To be fair, Kurt Warner just came out and said something to the effect that he loved playing with Haley as his OC and if he had any life left in his body he'd love to come back and play for him again.
Gee whiz Kurt Warner or some fat Pennsylvania sweathog? Who are you gonna believe?
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Lets win a game again before we go and say things like "they will be contenders"....

With the cap space available and the draft picks the Browns are set up for a turnaround. That is true.
But we've seen these opportunities before. Can they actually come through for once?
I’ve been following the Browns since 2012, so you and most on here probably know more than me but has there actually been a time when we had this much cap space and this much draft capital?
I’ve been following the Browns since 2012, so you and most on here probably know more than me but has there actually been a time when we had this much cap space and this much draft capital?
We've had cap space for years, and this is the fifth time the Browns have had two first rounders this decade. (Last draft the Browns ended up with three)
But this is the best cap space/draft capital the Browns have ever had.
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We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
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We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
Decent chance only one will be around by training camp
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We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
Decent chance only one will be around by training camp
Decent chance only one will be around by training camp
You’re gonna have to define “decent”.
Kizer and Gordon will be on the roster, unless Gordon Shmucks up again.
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Decent chance only one will be around by training camp
You’re gonna have to define “decent”.
Kizer and Gordon will be on the roster, unless Gordon Shmucks up again.
You’re gonna have to define “decent”.
Kizer and Gordon will be on the roster, unless Gordon Shmucks up again.
Well, it is Josh Gordon.
Him Shmucking up and getting himself suspended is the definition of a "decent" chance.

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You’re gonna have to define “decent”.
Kizer and Gordon will be on the roster, unless Gordon Shmucks up again.
Well, it is Josh Gordon.
Him Shmucking up and getting himself suspended is the definition of a "decent" chance.

Well, it is Josh Gordon.
Him Shmucking up and getting himself suspended is the definition of a "decent" chance.

Fair enough.
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We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
Kizer will be 2nd or 3rd string. Crow will be upgraded. Gordon's n is a beast. This team for 2018 is all upside.
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We'll see how he does with Kizer Gordon and Crow instead of Roethlisberger Bell and Brown.
Hopefully he will shape our Trio up.
WSS
Kizer will be 2nd or 3rd string. Crow will be upgraded. Gordon's n is a beast. This team for 2018 is all upside.
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sooooo...does this hire automatically jump the browns to the top of Hard Knocks? Seriously, HBO has to be foaming at the mouth for this to come true. let's ask the important questions:
Williams and Haley considered two of the most intense coaches on the same team? check
A coach on the hot seat? check
A winless team looking for redemption? check
A middling owner? check
A fan base desperate for a winner? check
The number one overall draft pick? check
Last year's number one overall draft pick? check
Yep, I'm pretty sure this is going to be the best season ever....
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Except that we still have hue as head coach. Where is the upside in thatExcept that we still have hue as head coach. Where is the upside in that
The Hue hate is on par with the national political hate scene lol. Look I think Hues made some silly calls and mistakes. Let's not forget he did go 8-8 as the HC of the Raiders.
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This hire is interesting in that prior to this weekend we had interviewed quite a few guys for OC. Some of them pretty respected names. And we didn't hire any of 'em. - Almost as if we were waiting for Haley to be fired.
So now Hue is NOT the OC. This paves the way for his firing during the ensuing season should things not go well.
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This hire is interesting in that prior to this weekend we had interviewed quite a few guys for OC. Some of them pretty respected names. And we didn't hire any of 'em. - Almost as if we were waiting for Haley to be fired.
So now Hue is NOT the OC. This paves the way for his firing during the ensuing season should things not go well.
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