2018 QB Class
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Bold prediction sure to go wrong...The browns will sign McCarron, trade back from #1 to #5 with DEN and then trade back up to #3 with Indy for...Josh Allen. It pains me to think this way, but something tells me he is their target. With either veteran qb, he can sit and wait for a few years before he needs to be ready. It would be a battle for the back-up slot, as I feel Kizer is going to improve from last year.
If they sign cousins, the for sale sign goes up on #1, no doubt about it.
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Bold prediction sure to go wrong...The browns will sign McCarron, trade back from #1 to #5 with DEN and then trade back up to #3 with Indy for...Josh Allen. It pains me to think this way, but something tells me he is their target. With either veteran qb, he can sit and wait for a few years before he needs to be ready. It would be a battle for the back-up slot, as I feel Kizer is going to improve from last year.
If they sign cousins, the for sale sign goes up on #1, no doubt about it.
Bold prediction sure to go wrong...The browns will sign McCarron, trade back from #1 to #5 with DEN and then trade back up to #3 with Indy for...Josh Allen. It pains me to think this way, but something tells me he is their target. With either veteran qb, he can sit and wait for a few years before he needs to be ready. It would be a battle for the back-up slot, as I feel Kizer is going to improve from last year.
If they sign cousins, the for sale sign goes up on #1, no doubt about it.
no, no, no. They sign McCarron, they pick Minkah Fitzpatrick, they trade down from 4 to Denver, pick up another second round pick,
and then pick the OG out of ND. Two all pros for the next then years.
Then they draft Mike White with their first pick in the second round.
I have no freaking real idea. lol. But I honestly believe they finally will make it a brilliant Browns draft.
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Bold prediction sure to go wrong...The browns will sign McCarron, trade back from #1 to #5 with DEN and then trade back up to #3 with Indy for...Josh Allen. It pains me to think this way, but something tells me he is their target. With either veteran qb, he can sit and wait for a few years before he needs to be ready. It would be a battle for the back-up slot, as I feel Kizer is going to improve from last year.
If they sign cousins, the for sale sign goes up on #1, no doubt about it.
no, no, no. They sign McCarron, they pick Minkah Fitzpatrick, they trade down from 4 to Denver, pick up another second round pick,
and then pick the OG out of ND. Two all pros for the next then years.
Then they draft Mike White with their first pick in the second round.
I have no freaking real idea. lol. But I honestly believe they finally will make it a brilliant Browns draft.
no, no, no. They sign McCarron, they pick Minkah Fitzpatrick, they trade down from 4 to Denver, pick up another second round pick,
and then pick the OG out of ND. Two all pros for the next then years.
Then they draft Mike White with their first pick in the second round.
I have no freaking real idea. lol. But I honestly believe they finally will make it a brilliant Browns draft.
We're all hoping for a great draft. You have to be able to sell that vision to the next draft picks. All that cap space and all the young talent. At some point, If they get the qb right, it'll turn around.
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Bold prediction sure to go wrong...The browns will sign McCarron, trade back from #1 to #5 with DEN and then trade back up to #3 with Indy for...Josh Allen. It pains me to think this way, but something tells me he is their target. With either veteran qb, he can sit and wait for a few years before he needs to be ready. It would be a battle for the back-up slot, as I feel Kizer is going to improve from last year.
If they sign cousins, the for sale sign goes up on #1, no doubt about it.
no, no, no. They sign McCarron, they pick Minkah Fitzpatrick, they trade down from 4 to Denver, pick up another second round pick,
and then pick the OG out of ND. Two all pros for the next then years.
Then they draft Mike White with their first pick in the second round.
I have no freaking real idea. lol. But I honestly believe they finally will make it a brilliant Browns draft.
no, no, no. They sign McCarron, they pick Minkah Fitzpatrick, they trade down from 4 to Denver, pick up another second round pick,
and then pick the OG out of ND. Two all pros for the next then years.
Then they draft Mike White with their first pick in the second round.
I have no freaking real idea. lol. But I honestly believe they finally will make it a brilliant Browns draft.
Let's hope the BROWNS can land an experienced, quarterback yes even McCarron has been around a little, so they can concentrate on a true rebuilding process with stud need players in a loaded draft. The true FA QB prizes may however slip away.
But signing a rookie quarterback seems to have BROWNS fans divided like the Hatfields and McCoys.......I'm waiting for the feud to go crazy before draft day. Not even close on which one if any to pick in R1.
Now Hatfield get off my lawn dammit or I'll shoot .
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So if we hire Kirk Cousins does DeShone Kizer become the backup and we spend number 1 and number 4 on other positions?
Does picking a quarterback at number one send a message to Cousins that he's not the main guy?
Replace the name Kirk Cousins with the name AJ McCarron and those two questions change?
WSS
So if we hire Kirk Cousins does DeShone Kizer become the backup and we spend number 1 and number 4 on other positions?
Does picking a quarterback at number one send a message to Cousins that he's not the main guy?
Replace the name Kirk Cousins with the name AJ McCarron and those two questions change?
WSS
It's a terrific question and I'll give you my best answer. Signing Cousins essentially makes all our problems go away. We absolutely don't draft a QB #1, and it's likely we trade down for a killing. If we don't trade down at 1, we'd trade down at 4. Basically we can do whatever we want and it's GM's dream. You have the QB, you have the 1st and 4th pick (not to mention 3 second rounders), and you STILL have money to burn. Without going crazy, we could go from 0 wins to maybe 7 overnight.
Drafting McCarron is where it starts to get a little messy. McCarron has shown ability, but certainly not anywhere near enough to instill the confidence it takes to pass on drafting a QB at 1 or 4. Think of the BACKLASH we'd face if McCarron sucks and the QB entries turn out to be starters? Everyone would be fired and the fans would be institutionalized.
It's likely Hue Jackson feels he knows what McCarron can and can't do. After all, he worked with him for a year or two and saw him extensively in practice. The fans and analysts are somewhat less informed, and we're divided on McCarron because we simply haven't seen much of him. Me personally? I don't see McCarron as anything special. Would he be better than Kizer was last year? Of course, but then again, who wouldn't be? I never thought McCarron had a great arm, good enough mobility, or anything else special enough to warrant total trust of leading a franchise. He just seems so...normal. And not in a good way. He has that "I'm a backup" flavor to him, regardless of how hot his wife is.
Edit: After watching the very limited footage of McCarron, I've concluded that his arm is at least good enough. It doesn't pop off the television or anything, but it's certainly adequate. He appears comfortable attacking both the middle and the sideline, and he definitely likes to throw it long. He is NOT a dink and dunk type guy. In fact, I'd actually call him a gunslinger. If McCarron were to ever work out, we'd need Josh Gordon on the field, and we ALL KNOW how that game works. Go back and watch some of McCarron's best throws....nobody on our team makes those receptions unless they're named Josh Gordon. (they had AJ Green, a close comparison to Josh)
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Ha, If Po can post 100 Saquon videos, I can do at least one on McCarron. Observations? Does not have a Josh Allen arm. This video was from 2015, maybe he's been working on that. Seems a lot of his throws were high- what usually happens when you try to put extra mustard on a throw. Doesn't have Mayfield's pinpoint accuracy either. Um two years $15 million guaranteed sounds about right. We bring in AJ, we still will need to draft a qb high. PS- looking at his contract he's basically been playing at vet minimum for the Bengals typical of Mike Brown.
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Just curious, could the Browns shock the world and offer #1 & #4 to Green Bay for Rodgers? Then sign him to the biggest contract in NFL history. Would the Packers give it a thought? Before you immediately say no, Green Bay could have the chance to draft whatever qb they want in what's considered a very good qb draft plus the #4 pick and they would free up all his money from the books. Not to mention, they are going to have to pay him in a year or two anyway and his price tag is only going up based on the Cousins signing. Finally, he is 34 years old so let's be generous and say 4-6 years of really good football left for $30 mil/yr moving forward. Would/should the browns even consider something like that?
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How about this combination? Drew Brees will be a free agent possibly. Have him mentor 6 foot Baker Mayfield! What do you think?
WSS
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So you essentially tell Brees, we will make you the highest paid qb for the next 3 years but we will be moving on from you after that? I'm not sure he buys into it, but it's not a terrible thought. I think he has too much invested in NO to walk away personally. and vice versa. They will make something happen.
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Just curious, could the Browns shock the world and offer #1 & #4 to Green Bay for Rodgers? Then sign him to the biggest contract in NFL history. Would the Packers give it a thought? Before you immediately say no, Green Bay could have the chance to draft whatever qb they want in what's considered a very good qb draft plus the #4 pick and they would free up all his money from the books. Not to mention, they are going to have to pay him in a year or two anyway and his price tag is only going up based on the Cousins signing. Finally, he is 34 years old so let's be generous and say 4-6 years of really good football left for $30 mil/yr moving forward. Would/should the browns even consider something like that?
Just curious, could the Browns shock the world and offer #1 & #4 to Green Bay for Rodgers? Then sign him to the biggest contract in NFL history. Would the Packers give it a thought? Before you immediately say no, Green Bay could have the chance to draft whatever qb they want in what's considered a very good qb draft plus the #4 pick and they would free up all his money from the books. Not to mention, they are going to have to pay him in a year or two anyway and his price tag is only going up based on the Cousins signing. Finally, he is 34 years old so let's be generous and say 4-6 years of really good football left for $30 mil/yr moving forward. Would/should the browns even consider something like that?
No- give up your future for a year or two of Rodgers?
How about this combination? Drew Brees will be a free agent possibly. Have him mentor 6 foot Baker Mayfield! What do you think?
WSS
Nope Steve. Brees is as much a fixture in The Big Easy as Joe Thomas is in Cleveland.
While we're at it doing doing crazy talk, how about offering our #1 overall to the Patriots for Brady?
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So you essentially tell Brees, we will make you the highest paid qb for the next 3 years but we will be moving on from you after that? I'm not sure he buys into it, but it's not a terrible thought. I think he has too much invested in NO to walk away personally. and vice versa. They will make something happen.
So you essentially tell Brees, we will make you the highest paid qb for the next 3 years but we will be moving on from you after that? I'm not sure he buys into it, but it's not a terrible thought. I think he has too much invested in NO to walk away personally. and vice versa. They will make something happen.
FWIW, Drew is already 39. He'll be on a year to year contract with the Saints.
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hoorta, I don't disagree with you. However, would 4-5 years of Rodgers be worth it? Remember, part of this scenario is the Browns are locking up Rodgers for the rest of his career. that's essentially the question at hand.
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Just curious, could the Browns shock the world and offer #1 & #4 to Green Bay for Rodgers? Then sign him to the biggest contract in NFL history. Would the Packers give it a thought? Before you immediately say no, Green Bay could have the chance to draft whatever qb they want in what's considered a very good qb draft plus the #4 pick and they would free up all his money from the books. Not to mention, they are going to have to pay him in a year or two anyway and his price tag is only going up based on the Cousins signing. Finally, he is 34 years old so let's be generous and say 4-6 years of really good football left for $30 mil/yr moving forward. Would/should the browns even consider something like that?
No- give up your future for a year or two of Rodgers?
How about this combination? Drew Brees will be a free agent possibly. Have him mentor 6 foot Baker Mayfield! What do you think?
WSS
Nope Steve. Brees is as much a fixture in The Big Easy as Joe Thomas is in Cleveland.
While we're at it doing doing crazy talk, how about offering our #1 overall to the Patriots for Brady?
No- give up your future for a year or two of Rodgers?
Nope Steve. Brees is as much a fixture in The Big Easy as Joe Thomas is in Cleveland.
While we're at it doing doing crazy talk, how about offering our #1 overall to the Patriots for Brady?
Oh I never for a second thought it was going to happen. Just that would be a nice scenario. Two 6 foot tall guys.
WSS
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hoorta, I don't disagree with you. However, would 4-5 years of Rodgers be worth it? Remember, part of this scenario is the Browns are locking up Rodgers for the rest of his career. that's essentially the question at hand.
hoorta, I don't disagree with you. However, would 4-5 years of Rodgers be worth it? Remember, part of this scenario is the Browns are locking up Rodgers for the rest of his career. that's essentially the question at hand.
Still no. Would the Packers take a deal like that? Probably, the #1 and #4 would get us any starting QB that's on the high side of 30 (just the #4 would have landed us Alex Smith). Who's Aaron throwing to? Gordon and? It's short term Fool's Gold. If you want my honest opinion, it's a far worse idea than signing Kirk Cousins in free agency. At least we're not giving up picks to build the roster, and Kirk is 4 year younger.
The din from the "win now" crowd in the Bleacher section is getting mighty loud.....
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once again, I would never make that deal. As good as Rodgers is, Father Time is undefeated. I think Rosen or Darnold are elite qb talents and you take your chance with them.
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Ha, If Po can post 100 Saquon videos, I can do at least one on McCarron. Observations? Does not have a Josh Allen arm. This video was from 2015, maybe he's been working on that. Seems a lot of his throws were high- what usually happens when you try to put extra mustard on a throw. Doesn't have Mayfield's pinpoint accuracy either. Um two years $15 million guaranteed sounds about right. We bring in AJ, we still will need to draft a qb high. PS- looking at his contract he's basically been playing at vet minimum for the Bengals typical of Mike Brown.
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once again, I would never make that deal. As good as Rodgers is, Father Time is undefeated. I think Rosen or Darnold are elite qb talents and you take your chance with them.
once again, I would never make that deal. As good as Rodgers is, Father Time is undefeated. I think Rosen or Darnold are elite qb talents and you take your chance with them.
I haven't seen anyone call them elite, good probably, maybe but we'll see what more the combines show.
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https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/2/21/17035842/mel-kiper-mock-draft-josh-allen-browns
Cal will like this mock draft.
WSS
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