2018 QB Class
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-sam-darnold-won-t-154931188.html
Report: Sam Darnold won’t throw in Indy
The top quarterback prospects in this year’s draft class will be looking for ways to differentiate themselves from one another over the next couple of months and Sam Darnold has reportedly found a way to do it in Indianapolis this week.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Darnold will not take part in throwing drills during the Scouting Combine. He is expected to throw at USC’s Pro Day workout on March 21 instead.
Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Mason Rudolph are all expected to do the throwing drills in Indy. Lamar Jackson has not announced what he plans to do at this point.
There have been plenty of quarterbacks in the past who have passed on throwing at the combine in favor of working in familiar conditions and with familiar receivers at their schools. That trend has reversed in recent years, but it seems Darnold will not be part of that wave.
The combine and pro days are kind of a joke for QBs. If the game footage hasn't shown enough, seeing them throw to uncovered WRs while wearing shorts and a tshirt shouldn't tip the scale one way or the other.
The combine and pro days are kind of a joke for QBs. If the game footage hasn't shown enough, seeing them throw to uncovered WRs while wearing shorts and a tshirt shouldn't tip the scale one way or the other.
Certainly hurt Bridgewater
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Rosen denies he ever said anything about not wanting to go to the Browns.
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The combine and pro days are kind of a joke for QBs. If the game footage hasn't shown enough, seeing them throw to uncovered WRs while wearing shorts and a tshirt shouldn't tip the scale one way or the other.
Certainly hurt Bridgewater
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That is the thing. It can only hurt but really the game footage should be the most important component. No one should be helped by the undies olympics.
I think they're also assessing how fast they pick things up, and how they handle the pressure. Also get a better idea how the ball looks coming out of their hands
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That is the thing. It can only hurt but really the game footage should be the most important component. No one should be helped by the undies olympics.
I think they're also assessing how fast they pick things up, and how they handle the pressure. Also get a better idea how the ball looks coming out of their hands
I think they're also assessing how fast they pick things up, and how they handle the pressure. Also get a better idea how the ball looks coming out of their hands
The interview and board work I get. But as far as throwing it, everyone should have a good idea of what they are looking at well before the combine or pro days. I would never pick a guy on what he did the day he threw against Casper the Friendly Ghost if the game footage told a totally different story.
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Rosen denies he ever said anything about not wanting to go to the Browns.
Rosen denies he ever said anything about not wanting to go to the Browns.
I knew this was coming.
He gives well thought out answers to questions, and when snippets are taken out of context, it completely changes his message.
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Rosen denies he ever said anything about not wanting to go to the Browns.
I knew this was coming.
He gives well thought out answers to questions, and when snippets are taken out of context, it completely changes his message.
I knew this was coming.
He gives well thought out answers to questions, and when snippets are taken out of context, it completely changes his message.
What he said was he'd rather go later in the draft to a good organization than higher in the draft to a bad one.
He's absolutely right.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Rosen throw at the combines. There's no hurry in coming to a final opinion on the guy.
I'm being honest when I say I've seen a guy that was hyped up as the #1 QB coming out of high school. I've seen the ideal mechanics I've read about; but I've also seen him miss/overthrow some wide open targets that the great ones in the NFL complete routinely. I pointed this out in the first half of the video SD-Tom shared. 2 different guys broke open with no defenders between them and the end zone and he missed them both. When I'm hearing best QB in the country - that's where I expect to see that.
I've had season tickets to Vandy games. I remembered Jay Cutler becoming the SEC Player of the Year and all people asked was - what if he just had a defense? Well, in the NFL - it was pretty much the same story as early as Denver. A lot of big stats with no victories. He'll get you all those 340 yards and over passing days way easier than he'll get you victories on those days. What's missing? Teammates AGAIN? Really?
I'm looking forward to seeing Rosen throw at the combines. There's no hurry in coming to a final opinion on the guy.
I'm being honest when I say I've seen a guy that was hyped up as the #1 QB coming out of high school. I've seen the ideal mechanics I've read about; but I've also seen him miss/overthrow some wide open targets that the great ones in the NFL complete routinely. I pointed this out in the first half of the video SD-Tom shared. 2 different guys broke open with no defenders between them and the end zone and he missed them both. When I'm hearing best QB in the country - that's where I expect to see that.
I've had season tickets to Vandy games. I remembered Jay Cutler becoming the SEC Player of the Year and all people asked was - what if he just had a defense? Well, in the NFL - it was pretty much the same story as early as Denver. A lot of big stats with no victories. He'll get you all those 340 yards and over passing days way easier than he'll get you victories on those days. What's missing? Teammates AGAIN? Really?
Is Rosen throwing? I know Darnold isn't.
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Could end poorly.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Rosen throw at the combines. There's no hurry in coming to a final opinion on the guy.
I'm being honest when I say I've seen a guy that was hyped up as the #1 QB coming out of high school. I've seen the ideal mechanics I've read about; but I've also seen him miss/overthrow some wide open targets that the great ones in the NFL complete routinely. I pointed this out in the first half of the video SD-Tom shared. 2 different guys broke open with no defenders between them and the end zone and he missed them both. When I'm hearing best QB in the country - that's where I expect to see that.
I've had season tickets to Vandy games. I remembered Jay Cutler becoming the SEC Player of the Year and all people asked was - what if he just had a defense? Well, in the NFL - it was pretty much the same story as early as Denver. A lot of big stats with no victories. He'll get you all those 340 yards and over passing days way easier than he'll get you victories on those days. What's missing? Teammates AGAIN? Really?
Is Rosen throwing? I know Darnold isn't.
Is Rosen throwing? I know Darnold isn't.
Darnold I think is the only one who has said he hasn't as of now.
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I knew this was coming.
He gives well thought out answers to questions, and when snippets are taken out of context, it completely changes his message.
What he said was he'd rather go later in the draft to a good organization than higher in the draft to a bad one.
He's absolutely right.
What he said was he'd rather go later in the draft to a good organization than higher in the draft to a bad one.
He's absolutely right.
From the article I posted somewhere on here :
But like all of Rosen’s answers, it came as part of a nuanced response to a question about where he’d prefer to go.
In it, the quarterback said he knows he has a unique personality and that it might not be the right fit for every team. If that means he goes later, then so be it, but he’s more concerned with going to the right place than the earliest place possible. Rosen also said that NFL teams would have a better idea than he would if his disposition works well for their organization.
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There's a recent little article basically stating not to completely count out Deshone Kizer, and I do believe he's worth mentioning. Right now, we're all excited to know which veteran QB will be with us, and especially which rookie we're going to draft. But Deshone Kizer isn't going anywhere, and the article linked below goes into a few reasons why people shouldn't forget him. Kizer was mostly frustrating as hell to watch, and by all accounts, had a terrible season, but if we're being honest with ourselves, we know that he definitely played well enough to win a few games. Remember the Green Bay game where it was 3rd and 4 and he hit Njoku with a perfect pass that would've given us the 1st down and let us tick down the clock to around 30 seconds up 7? Njoku appeared to make the catch, but after review, the ball hit the ground. We didn't punt out of bounds, they ran all almost completely back, and titty-boom. We lose. How about that gutty Steelers game at the end? Thanks Corey Coleman. Remember Kenny Britt completely screwing Kizer over with drops and some lead to picks? Oh, and just LOOK at the bozos Kizer had to throw to, especially after Corey got hurt.
Never count out a man who believes in himself and is willing to work his butt off. I'm not a huge Kizer fan because I value accuracy, but even I know he was in an awful situation. I'd love a QB room consisting of Kizer, Baker Mayfield, and Case Keenum (or McCarron, or Sam Bradford).
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Keenum showed me something that O'Brien never got out of him in Houston. What a difference a coach can make that plays to a player's strengths. Too bad we don't have a HC like that.
BTW rumors are out there that Keenum may be headed for Arizona.
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Keenum showed me something that O'Brien never got out of him in Houston. What a difference a coach can make that plays to a player's strengths. Too bad we don't have a HC like that.
BTW rumors are out there that Keenum may be headed for Arizona.
Keenum showed me something that O'Brien never got out of him in Houston. What a difference a coach can make that plays to a player's strengths. Too bad we don't have a HC like that.
BTW rumors are out there that Keenum may be headed for Arizona.
Makes sense. I don't know if I would want Keenum throwing outdoors in Cleveland.
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Could end poorly.
Whats with these guys having their uncles and family as financial advisers and business partners?
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Keenum showed me something that O'Brien never got out of him in Houston. What a difference a coach can make that plays to a player's strengths. Too bad we don't have a HC like that.
BTW rumors are out there that Keenum may be headed for Arizona.
Keenum showed me something that O'Brien never got out of him in Houston. What a difference a coach can make that plays to a player's strengths. Too bad we don't have a HC like that.
BTW rumors are out there that Keenum may be headed for Arizona.
Interesting! To me, Keenum makes the most sense in Denver. A plus-rated defense similar to Minnesota, probably won't be asked to do TOO much, and Denver appears to be at the end of their playoff run (despite missing badly last year), so I would expect the Broncos to go heavily after a guy like Keenum who made the playoffs last year. In a perfect world, I think the Broncos would like to sign Cousins (duh), but I'm not sure they have the necessary cap room, and even if they DID, I don't believe they'd offer that kind of money to Kirk anyways. I see the Jets offering STUPID MONEY to Kirk and him accepting the deal, Keenum going to Denver, AJ McCarron going to Minnesota, and Sam Bradford going to Arizona.
Oh, the "Veteran QB Musical Chairs" game, and guess who is going to be the team left standing without a place to sit when the music stops? You guessed it, the Browns. But hey, it's expected when you're 1-31, right? So who are we going to bring in as our veteran QB? None other than....Joshua McCown! That's right, the ageless wonder will make his way back to Cleveland and serve as our "bridge QB" until Baker Mayfield (we're drafting him...please lord) or Deshone Kizer win the job.
They are only two wildcards in my twisted mind, McCarron and Bridewater. I give McCarron a 75% chance of going to Minnesota, and maybe 10% going to Cleveland. Bridgewater is the one guy that nobody knows about. The Vikings' coach Mike Zimmer repeatedly said in the past that he wanted Bridewater to be the last QB he ever coached, and he felt VERY strongly that Teddy was going to be the guy for years to come in Minnesota. He absolutely LOVED Bridgewater, but his devastating knee injury obviously derailed that affair, and Teddy remains the biggest question mark in the veteran QB class at this moment. He basically played two full seasons in 2014 and 2015, and then suffered the injury in preseason PRACTICE. It was so gruesome that I want to say a few players ran off the field to vomit (I didn't confirm that rumor, just hearsay, but you get the point). Teddy's stats for those two seasons were "pretty good". He actually reminded me a lot of Sam Bradford (no, not just because of the bad knee). Teddy completed a high percentage of passes (around 65%), didn't throw a bunch of picks (around 19 total in two seasons), and was good at delivering safe passes and taking what was there. I believe Teddy played 29 games in those two seasons, and his total passing TD's were around 28. Not exactly prolific, but he got his team in positions to win games, largely because he had a killer defense, and he didn't turn it over. He also had some incredibly clutch moments in those 2 years, which of course I love.
The Cleveland Browns, however, do NOT have a "dominant defense" (as of right now, but I'm starting to like our personnel...except Peppers. He can kiss my rear right now, rookie or not). If Teddy comes to Cleveland, he's going to HAVE to throw it more, throw it when the defense KNOWS you're throwing it, and you're probably not going to have a terrific run offense. With his knee injury, I don't think we can grab him...just can't. Because if Teddy goes down, we're either throwing Kizer back in there, or we're tossing in our fresh new rookie. It's the same thing with Sam Bradford. I think if you sign Sam, you literally have to sign his surgeon to a contract too.
If the chips fall like I expect them to, the Browns will be on the outside looking in, and the only guy who will be available to us that doesn't have a mechanical knee will be Josh McCown. Welcome back Josh.
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Could end poorly.
Whats with these guys having their uncles and family as financial advisers and business partners?
Whats with these guys having their uncles and family as financial advisers and business partners?
They grow up with nothing and think that a family member has their best interests in mind. But depending on someone with zero background in contracts is a horrible idea.
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Whats with these guys having their uncles and family as financial advisers and business partners?
They grow up with nothing and think that a family member has their best interests in mind. But depending on someone with zero background in contracts is a horrible idea.
They grow up with nothing and think that a family member has their best interests in mind. But depending on someone with zero background in contracts is a horrible idea.
Like Paulie in Rocky...
WSS
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