Garoppolo
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Zombo said:
Did we offer a 2nd before the draft last year? Because that's what I'm talking about. I would have given up our second first rounder for him last year, it's on record. But we parlayed that into a safety that plays 30 yards off the ball, so we're good.
Zombo
Well, had it gone wrong today we would be saying why the heck did we trade Garoppolo for a 1st round.
It can go both ways and if you make a reasonable decision (not risking a 1st) you shouldn't be blamed for it.
Well, had it gone wrong today we would be saying why the heck did we trade Garoppolo for a 1st round.
It can go both ways and if you make a reasonable decision (not risking a 1st) you shouldn't be blamed for it.
If you are the head of the organization and after two years your QB stable is Deshone Kizer, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan ... You should be blamed for it.
Zombo
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Well, had it gone wrong today we would be saying why the heck did we trade Garoppolo for a 1st round.
It can go both ways and if you make a reasonable decision (not risking a 1st) you shouldn't be blamed for it.
If you are the head of the organization and after two years your QB stable is Deshone Kizer, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan ... You should be blamed for it.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
If you are the head of the organization and after two years your QB stable is Deshone Kizer, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan ... You should be blamed for it.
Zombo
Of course. But I'm talking only about Jimmy Garoppolo here.
Of course. But I'm talking only about Jimmy Garoppolo here.
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
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Of course. But I'm talking only about Jimmy Garoppolo here.
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
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Of course. But I'm talking only about Jimmy Garoppolo here.
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
Zombo said:
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
You can also throw in the fact that Sashi couldn’t draft or bring in a WR worth a sh!t.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I think I read or heard that the Browns offered a 1st before the season and were turned down. Jimmy didn't want to go to Cleveland, and Belichick wasn't sending him out to somewhere he didn't want to be.
In the short time he has been on the field (and things could certainly change, he won't be UNDEFEATED forever), he has looked better than any of the FA QBs and better than rookies besides Watson who got hurt
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Zombo said:
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
You can also throw in the fact that Sashi couldn’t draft or bring in a WR worth a sh!t.
You can also throw in the fact that Sashi couldn’t draft or bring in a WR worth a sh!t.
What? He brought in Britt, Bowe and "hands" Coleman! What more could you ask for?
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Zombo said:
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't reach for a 3 game starter 2nd round backup offering a #12 overall, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
FIFY.
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Zombo said:
He should have.
FIFY.
Zombo
wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Of course. But I'm talking only about Jimmy Garoppolo here.
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
Zombo said:
Sashi Brown's NFL gravemarker reads "passed on Wentz, passed on Watson, didn't ante up for Jimmy, couldn't beat the clock on A.J*, here lies 1-31"
I expect Dorsey to be WAY more aggressive when it comes to securing a franchise QB for the Cleveland Browns. If he goes down, he goes down swinging.
Zombo
*Not that I am any fan of McCarren, but the fact that he botched that trade was his final kiss of death
And...I suspect that the HC....and the owner, felt that Sashi sabotaged it....not just botched it. I mean...we were all glad he did that.....but the guys in the Browns inner circle clearly were not as happy about it as the fans were.
McCarron is not the answer....in my opinion. If he is not declared a FA....I really would not want to see the Browns part with much to get him. 4th rounder maybe. I think we can do just as well or better by getting a veteran Bridge QB who is a FA.....be that Bradford/Fitzpatrick/McCown or the like.
If we have Hue and McCarron together....I just see more complete suckage coming. We may as well just stick with Kizer.
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Zombo said:
He should have.
FIFY.
Zombo
wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
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Zombo said:
He should have.
FIFY.
Zombo
wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
ROFLMAO, WTF bro? LOL FML, DAE PAW?
ICYMI I'm J/K
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wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
ROFLMAO, WTF bro? LOL FML, DAE PAW?
ICYMI I'm J/K
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wtf is FIFY? Never mind I found it.. Kids and theyre damn acronyms.. No wonder why we have such a dumb generation of kids.. sorry to digress.. back to topic... I agree w/Zombo.. Sahi basically dropped the ball and signed his own death warrant.
ROFLMAO, WTF bro? LOL FML, DAE PAW?
ICYMI I'm J/K
ROFLMAO, WTF bro? LOL FML, DAE PAW?
ICYMI I'm J/K
In my profession I use the acronym POA a lot....either for Power Of Attorney.....or Piss Off Arsehole.
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Shoulda...woulda....coulda...
We should've drafted a lot of players.
The list of guys we shoulda, coulda drafted since 1999 is as long as my arm. I was probably wrong and Jimmy- and if he pans out, I'll admit I'm wrong. But to give a guy $$$$ and declare him a "franchise qb"after 7 starts is a tad premature.
The 49ers better hope he's not another Derek Anderson. Plenty of chatter on nfl.com to tag Jimmy in 2018, and then give him the long term contract the following year.
The list of guys we shoulda, coulda drafted since 1999 is as long as my arm. I was probably wrong and Jimmy- and if he pans out, I'll admit I'm wrong. But to give a guy $$$$ and declare him a "franchise qb"after 7 starts is a tad premature.
The 49ers better hope he's not another Derek Anderson. Plenty of chatter on nfl.com to tag Jimmy in 2018, and then give him the long term contract the following year.
Larry, it is your exact attitude that is alive and well in Cleveland. Nobody is good enough for you, dude. Anyone who wants a big cotract? You agree with the Browns to not "lower themselves" and pay. Always some horseshidt with you about how a guy is not worth drafting with our high pick, or how we are better off without him......
So dude, if YOU were the M, this is exactly the fukcking team you would have put together. No risk, no courage, all Bernie Kosar.......play not to lose bullschidt.
In your world, you only want the guys who are throwbacks to the 60s in character, who don't want a lot of money, who aren't good enough for our pick. Jesus, Joseph and Mary, dude. who the fukck IS good enough ?
Seriously, the only thing that blows more than the Browns, are Browns fans.
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The list of guys we shoulda, coulda drafted since 1999 is as long as my arm. I was probably wrong and Jimmy- and if he pans out, I'll admit I'm wrong. But to give a guy $$$$ and declare him a "franchise qb"after 7 starts is a tad premature.
The 49ers better hope he's not another Derek Anderson. Plenty of chatter on nfl.com to tag Jimmy in 2018, and then give him the long term contract the following year.
Larry, it is your exact attitude that is alive and well in Cleveland. Nobody is good enough for you, dude. Anyone who wants a big cotract? You agree with the Browns to not "lower themselves" and pay. Always some horseshidt with you about how a guy is not worth drafting with our high pick, or how we are better off without him......
So dude, if YOU were the M, this is exactly the fukcking team you would have put together. No risk, no courage, all Bernie Kosar.......play not to lose bullschidt.
In your world, you only want the guys who are throwbacks to the 60s in character, who don't want a lot of money, who aren't good enough for our pick. Jesus, Joseph and Mary, dude. who the fukck IS good enough ?
Seriously, the only thing that blows more than the Browns, are Browns fans.
Larry, it is your exact attitude that is alive and well in Cleveland. Nobody is good enough for you, dude. Anyone who wants a big cotract? You agree with the Browns to not "lower themselves" and pay. Always some horseshidt with you about how a guy is not worth drafting with our high pick, or how we are better off without him......
So dude, if YOU were the M, this is exactly the fukcking team you would have put together. No risk, no courage, all Bernie Kosar.......play not to lose bullschidt.
In your world, you only want the guys who are throwbacks to the 60s in character, who don't want a lot of money, who aren't good enough for our pick. Jesus, Joseph and Mary, dude. who the fukck IS good enough ?
Seriously, the only thing that blows more than the Browns, are Browns fans.
Not the case at all Tom, my track record proves it. Let's go back to 1999. I was the Founder of Camp Couch- never lived up to his potential. Was lukewarm on Cortney Brown. Sure as hell didn't want "Spare Change" Warren. My pick was Ladainan Tomlinson- who's only in the HOF. So next year we wouldn't have had to draft Smokin' the Green Willie Green. HOFer Ed Reed sound a little better? Was OK with Kneivel Winslow until he decided doing reverse wheelies in a parking lot was more important than playing football. Had my doubts about hands of stone Edwards. Was OK with taking center Jeff Faine, who had a decent career, not all of it with the Browns. Trading with the Ravens to take Cam Wimbley instead of Haloti Ngata was a mistake, I thought a pure NT like Ngata was not going to be worth it, I was wrong there. You can kiss my a-ss about fatasses- Joe Thomas is going to the HOF care to bet me $1,000 he'll never make it? It's a sin if we draft Quinn- hated the pick, and on top of that there were several studs we could have drafted the next year with the pick we gave Dallas. Alex Mack anchored a SB Falcons line, and our OL went to hell after he left. 2012 Richardson and We-done was ca-ca in my book. Was so-so on Barky Mingo. Didn't know enough about Gilbert, but I for sure didn't want Johnny Juicer. Shelton was an OK pick, considering what was available after him. Hey, I was on the Wentz wagon- which would have made going after Trubisky moot. And if your Zumba instructor Garrett busts, that means 9 out of 10 pro talent evaluators were wrong. If you forgot- screamed a bunch of profanities at the TV when we drafted Kizer.
That brings us to 2018. So why didn't I want Grabs-a-pillow? Mostly because the list of qBs Bill has traded away have generally sucked, just like his coordinators who have left.
if you want to believe the rumors, he wasn't being traded to the Browns regardless. Funny thing there- MHO is the Patriots shot themselves in the foot. Bill is either losing his touch- or he lost out to Bob "Brady is like a son to me" Kraft. They should have done like the 49ers did when they had Joe Montana at QB (traded him to KC) and Steve Young was waiting in the wings. Trade Brady for a first round pick, and move over rover, and let Jimmy take over.
That brings me to Kirk "soon to be the $150 million dollar man" Cousins. You think I should just disregard the opinions of 2 hard core Redskins fans who have seen every one of Cousins' games, and told me they're letting Captain Kirk walk because they don't think he's worth anywhere close to that? They had the money to sign him long term, but decided a 4 years older Alex Smith was a better option. Some team that thinks they're just a QB away will probably pay that exorbitant amount for Cousins- but the Browns aren't "just one player away".
In case you don't realize it, you get a trip to NFL Cap Hell real quick paying Lamborghini prices for a car (make that player) that drives like a Honda. It's the reason the Chiefs HAD to unload Smith- they couldn't afford him and all the other guys they were paying big $$$ to.
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