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Foles and Luck are better than any QB in this draft or Cousins.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Isn't SkippinTurtles the guy who has been suggesting the Browns take a QB with the #1 AND #4 picks?

    Now this? 

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    Foles scares me to death because we saw what he did on a bad Rams team. Why would it be any different on a WORSE Browns team?! Don't get me wrong, I'm intrigued by Foles, but we don't exactly have the same supporting cast as the freaking Super Bowl winners. Andrew Luck absolutely terrifies me. If you're the Browns, and you've suffered more than anyone possible at the hands of the QB position, can you even THINK about trying to make a play for a guy with a serious, mysterious, shoulder injury? We have to play it as safe as possible with the veteran QB we sign, and we need to draft Baker at #1. 

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Luck is broken goods and Foles stinks when not in Philly. 

    Brees was broken goods before he went to the Saints.  Foles went back home and is now a Philly legend.  Luck and Foles are special talent NFL QB's.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Brees was broken goods before he went to the Saints.  Foles went back home and is now a Philly legend.  Luck and Foles are special talent NFL QB's.

    The Philly OL is a team of special talent. Foles just fits it well with one hellofa HC. We on the other hand have a decent but not great OL and one hellofa stupid HC.

  • L LionOfBuddha wrote on last edited by
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    We wouldn’t bet the farm on Luck who may never play another down.

    And we certainly aren’t betting the farm on a spot starter

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    Rookie QB's are over-hyped.  Healthy Luck could take this team to playoffs.  Foles just won a SB when the Eagles thought the season was over.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Rookie QB's are over-hyped.  Healthy Luck could take this team to playoffs.  Foles just won a SB when the Eagles thought the season was over.

    I have zero Shmucking clue the point you're attempting to make here.  Something tells me you don't either.  

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    He took the Colts to the AFC Championship Game in spite of a defense that only played 2 hand touch.  Not only that, I saw some stats that revealed he got hit more than any other QB; so he was pretty damn good considering the pounding he took.  

  • Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    He shoots......he misses. Oh well it's a sports forum we're all entitled to our opinions, I guess. 😉

    ......oh I saw a few minutes of Luck at Stanford as a Freshman on ESPN CLASSICS on the rivalry matchups, dude was good!

  • Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @skippinturtles said:

    Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    What makes you think that Luck or Foles are available.  I would wager a hot fudge sundae that both remain with the teams they are currently with.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    He took the Colts to the AFC Championship Game in spite of a defense that only played 2 hand touch.  Not only that, I saw some stats that revealed he got hit more than any other QB; so he was pretty damn good considering the pounding he took.  

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    He took the Colts to the AFC Championship Game in spite of a defense that only played 2 hand touch.  Not only that, I saw some stats that revealed he got hit more than any other QB; so he was pretty damn good considering the pounding he took.  

    The last QB that got pounded like Luck was Tim Couch.

  • @flugel said:

    He took the Colts to the AFC Championship Game in spite of a defense that only played 2 hand touch.  Not only that, I saw some stats that revealed he got hit more than any other QB; so he was pretty damn good considering the pounding he took.  

    The last QB that got pounded like Luck was Tim Couch.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    The last QB that got pounded like Luck was Tim Couch.

    And that's why it's not out of the question the Colts may take the best OL on the board at #3. 

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    Sandbaggers.

    WSS

  • Isn't SkippinTurtles the guy who has been suggesting the Browns take a QB with the #1 AND #4 picks?

    Now this? 

    S SkippinTurtles wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't SkippinTurtles the guy who has been suggesting the Browns take a QB with the #1 AND #4 picks?

    Now this? 

    Just exploring every option.  I'm not even supposed to be here today.

  • @flugel said:

    He took the Colts to the AFC Championship Game in spite of a defense that only played 2 hand touch.  Not only that, I saw some stats that revealed he got hit more than any other QB; so he was pretty damn good considering the pounding he took.  

    The last QB that got pounded like Luck was Tim Couch.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    The last QB that got pounded like Luck was Tim Couch.

    It's kind of amazing that they won two games, one over pburgh by 1, he did get pounded which has to affect a Quarterback’s future.

    He did marry a Playboy PMOY from Akron of all places so all well that ends well.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Brees was broken goods before he went to the Saints.  Foles went back home and is now a Philly legend.  Luck and Foles are special talent NFL QB's.

    Luck is a special talent when he's healthy. He's not even throwing a football yet. Some guys want to toss a couple first round picks or more to get him? Where did you get the "bargain Basement" from? You're not thinking. If the Colts are willing to part with Luck- it means- he's still hurt. 

    Foles isn't going anywhere with Wentz still on the mend. 

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Luck is a special talent when he's healthy. He's not even throwing a football yet. Some guys want to toss a couple first round picks or more to get him? Where did you get the "bargain Basement" from? You're not thinking. If the Colts are willing to part with Luck- it means- he's still hurt. 

    Foles isn't going anywhere with Wentz still on the mend. 

    Not if they are simply ready to blow it up and rebuild. If they are even a healthy Luck is their ticket to draft assets. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Luck is a special talent when he's healthy. He's not even throwing a football yet. Some guys want to toss a couple first round picks or more to get him? Where did you get the "bargain Basement" from? You're not thinking. If the Colts are willing to part with Luck- it means- he's still hurt. 

    Foles isn't going anywhere with Wentz still on the mend. 

    Not if they are simply ready to blow it up and rebuild. If they are even a healthy Luck is their ticket to draft assets. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @jcam222 said:

    Not if they are simply ready to blow it up and rebuild. If they are even a healthy Luck is their ticket to draft assets. 

    Luck, shoulder, I don't think he'll ever be near 100% again we'll see. 

  • @jcam222 said:

    Not if they are simply ready to blow it up and rebuild. If they are even a healthy Luck is their ticket to draft assets. 

    Luck, shoulder, I don't think he'll ever be near 100% again we'll see. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Luck, shoulder, I don't think he'll ever be near 100% again we'll see. 

    See:  Tim Couch.   Never returned from shoulder issues.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    I've heard everything from Colts GM Chris Ballard, But.."the doctors botched A.Luck's shoulder surgery". But the Luck got a 2nd opinion or 3rd out of the USA.McDaniels screwing Ballard ended in a weird twist imo. Now Colts HC Frank Reich..Foles OC at Eagles..Rumors flow, Eagles may want a 1st round pick for Foles. Well the Eagles sit at #32 in 1st round with no 2nd or 3rd round picks. Colts would easily give Philly their 2nd round pick #36 for Foles.Colts have a 3rd(67) but Colts could also seal deal by giving 2nd round & flipping 4th's giving Eagles pick #100 for than Colts #130 or #132. All bets are off if Luck can throw the ball by now..but Luck tossing at this point is not throwing..I do wish Andrew, Luck..he's a great person behind the player 

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Making a pitch for either one is doing due diligence.  Luck was over-hyped entering the league.  Now he's bargain basement available.  Foles came into the league hot, struggled, and now seems like he's in his prime.

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    B boo fagley wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    The Colts beat 3 teams with a winning record that season. Once in the post season Luck $hit the bed like always. 

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2012.htm

    Also, Lucky had a 54.1% completion rate like Josh Allen the QB you all says sucks.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Taking the worst team in the NFL to the playoffs in his rookie season.   

    Care to revise that statement?

    The Colts beat 3 teams with a winning record that season. Once in the post season Luck $hit the bed like always. 

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2012.htm

    Also, Lucky had a 54.1% completion rate like Josh Allen the QB you all says sucks.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @boo-fagley said:

    The Colts beat 3 teams with a winning record that season. Once in the post season Luck $hit the bed like always. 

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt/2012.htm

    Also, Lucky had a 54.1% completion rate like Josh Allen the QB you all says sucks.

    He was a rookie that took the worst team in the NFL less than a calendar year previous - to the NFL playoffs.

    Also throwing at a 54% clip in the NFL... not against collegiate competition in a non-Power 5 conference.

    You good now? Or care to keep going?