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The TE from Penn St is badass.
If there's a school that knows tight ends, it would be Penn State.
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If there's a school that knows tight ends, it would be Penn State.
Holy sh-it haha.
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If there's a school that knows tight ends, it would be Penn State.
Holy sh-it haha.
Holy sh-it haha.
I'll be here all week, make sure to tip your waitress and bartender!
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If there's a school that knows tight ends, it would be Penn State.
Yeah, evidently Sandusky didn't just teach his Linebackers how to fill the hole. Now karma has him in a real life version of the Longest Yard learning how to get the hole plugged from prisoners that like to gang tackle...
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My 2nd favorite player in this draft just ran a 4.66. Not bad for a 270lb edge player.
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If you can guarantee me Mayfield (or Darnold) will be there at #4, I can live with Barkley at #1.
That's the problem. There ARE no guarantees in waiting & I say take no chances. IF you really want a particular QB...Get him at #1!!......THAT'S a guarantee!!!!!
There will still be one hell of a player at 4. Think about it...IF we get Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen at #1....then left at #4 are the other 3 top QBs , then Barkley, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, McGlinchey & more. That means AT LEAST 2 of those last 4 I mentioned will still be there at #4 & that's if NOBODY takes a QB at #2 or #3. IF a team selects ONE QB at either 2 or 3, we are then GUARANTEED that EITHER Chubb or Barkley are there at #4. That's a lot of quality & I'll take those odds.
Mike
That's the problem. There ARE no guarantees in waiting & I say take no chances. IF you really want a particular QB...Get him at #1!!......THAT'S a guarantee!!!!!
There will still be one hell of a player at 4. Think about it...IF we get Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen at #1....then left at #4 are the other 3 top QBs , then Barkley, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, McGlinchey & more. That means AT LEAST 2 of those last 4 I mentioned will still be there at #4 & that's if NOBODY takes a QB at #2 or #3. IF a team selects ONE QB at either 2 or 3, we are then GUARANTEED that EITHER Chubb or Barkley are there at #4. That's a lot of quality & I'll take those odds.
Mike
That's an interesting pov Mike. You did a great job explaining where you are coming from. I like our options here so I'm going to give you a devil's advocate that has some partial agreement with what your saying about the process of elimination of QBs somewhat.
We just drafted a DE #1 overall in place of a QB just 1 year after we drafted Ogbah #32 overall (1st pick of rd 2 after NE lost a pick in rd 1) who was drastically improved especially against the run in 2017 with PFF ranking him #1 in that category while he also led us in sacks at the time. While Nassib is still in question - he was also the 1st pick of rd 3 so we've given the edge rush a lot of attention IMO. Sooner or later we have to start accepting some of these scoring weapons that are showing up on our doorstep. Not just QBs but a RB like Zeke Elliott who was helped Dak Prescott become a Rookie of the Year when he played every game vrs what Prescott looked like in the absence of Zeke for a stretch in 2017. Or, what about what Marshall Faulk did for Kurt Warner in his first year starting for the Rams? Burying the blitz with his breakaway speed and ideal hands is a very similar element Barkley offers a veteran FA QB or rookie QB. Faulk had 1000 yards receiving to match his 1000+ yards rushing. Faulk filled 2 roles many teams are now looking to 2 different RBs for now. That's a perk that frees us up to only use 1 pick on a RB so we can address our massive needs at WR and DB as early as round 2 and as well as free agency.
I know we're just fans and stuff but a lot of scouts and draft experts/analysts seem to think the top 3-4 QBs are all so close in talent this isn't a year where only 1 QB offers us THE solution. Sticking with that thought, if took Barkley 1st (who has less perceived question marks than all 4 of the top QBs) we're going to get one of the best 3 QBs. This doesn't look like there's a consensus Andrew Luck emerging so along the lines of what you are saying - we may still get our pick of the litter QB at #4 but this is a year where our 1B QB or even 1C may be just as good as good as our 1st rated QB. If we get our FA QB of choice whether it's McCarron or even Bradford who went a long time since he last injured his leg (with a shoulder injury) - it gives us latitude here IMO. I keep hearing Rosen is the most ready to start right away from intelligence to mechanics. In that draft we traded out of #2 - the QB that had the best rookie year wasn't 1 of the first 2 QBs drafted just like the year we drafted Manziel in round 1 - didn't Jimmy G and Derek Carr get drafted in round 2? I'm not even talking waiting as long as those teams did in 2014 and 2016. I'm talking about only 2 picks between Barkley and #4 overall.
Tampa Bay is dying for a pass rush here on all the radio discussions so I wouldn't be surprised to see them trade up for Chubb at all. If the run hasn't started on QB at #1 overall - who knows what position someone will be trying to trade up for at #2 especially if someone gets wind of an interest in the top DE. They could wait until #3 if the Giants decided to take one of the QBs where the Colts rumored to need a DE badly as well can weigh the option of trade out or take Chubb. Very unpredictable in what will happen if we delay the run on QBs at #1 overall...
We're going to get some REALLY good football players regardless of what direction they go.
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Harrison Phillips. I told you guys he's a beast. 42 reps on bench.
Dj got it right with best of DL..Daron Payne-6'2" 311 4.95-40//Bench-27...H.Phillips-6'4" 307 5.21-40//bench-42...I was thrilled for BJ Hill, who I got a hand shake from at NC state spring game..Dude is a monster..BJ Hill- 6'4" 311 4.99-40//Bench-35....All did great on drills also
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Tom, I have also thought the same thing. IF we take Barkley at #1, we would still have available at #4 AT LEAST 2 of the foursome of Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen. That may well be the way to go if one of those QBs doesn't put distance between himself & the others and/or who we may get in FA. Nice time to have CREDIBLE/KNOWLEDGEABLE guys in charge, hunh?
Regarding the time span from now until 4/26, 4/27/4/28.....As Arte Johnson (as the German soldier) used to say on Laugh-In...."Velly Intellestink!"
Mike
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Tom, I have also thought the same thing. IF we take Barkley at #1, we would still have available at #4 AT LEAST 2 of the foursome of Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen. That may well be the way to go if one of those QBs doesn't put distance between himself & the others and/or who we may get in FA. Nice time to have CREDIBLE/KNOWLEDGEABLE guys in charge, hunh?
Regarding the time span from now until 4/26, 4/27/4/28.....As Arte Johnson (as the German soldier) used to say on Laugh-In...."Velly Intellestink!"
Mike
Tom, I have also thought the same thing. IF we take Barkley at #1, we would still have available at #4 AT LEAST 2 of the foursome of Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen. That may well be the way to go if one of those QBs doesn't put distance between himself & the others and/or who we may get in FA. Nice time to have CREDIBLE/KNOWLEDGEABLE guys in charge, hunh?
Regarding the time span from now until 4/26, 4/27/4/28.....As Arte Johnson (as the German soldier) used to say on Laugh-In...."Velly Intellestink!"
Mike
Yeah, it felt like we had the same train of thought with 2 ways we could go with it. You just did a much better job of keeping it under 60 paragraphs... I think the best thing is how pleasantly surprised we are that there's a actually couple more kids beside Josh Allen in this draft class that LOVE football.
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My 2nd favorite player in this draft just ran a 4.66. Not bad for a 270lb edge player.
Who might that be?
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Just a little tool to navigate by day, position, event, name, etc.
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thanks ag. the one thing that always jumps out to me during combines, is some of the snubbs that get not invited due to a max number of invites..but a guy , like ILB Jack Cichy from Wisconsin grabs a slot with tore up knee in last spring practice comes in & does 18 reps on bench & measurables only..others that could compete should fill these spots
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Who might that be?
Chubb
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is Denzel Ward your #1?
Defender or overall player?
Overall would be Rosen, health permitting.
Ward is my #1 Boundary CB.
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Has anyone seen this guy play? Holy crap he's a physical specimen
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