Talk about NFL draft BUSTS? Going back 15 years! D'OH!
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Just a few nitpicky items:
Can you call a QB that took his team to the Super Bowl a bust? Rex Grossman did just that.
And I think that Ted Ginn is far from a bust. He may have been a bit overdrafted, yes. But he has been one of the best return men in the game for the past decade or more at least...and he has been a very serviceable WR. He is still playing..and contributed quite a bit to the Panthers playoff run this year...didn't he?
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Just a few nitpicky items:
Can you call a QB that took his team to the Super Bowl a bust? Rex Grossman did just that.
And I think that Ted Ginn is far from a bust. He may have been a bit overdrafted, yes. But he has been one of the best return men in the game for the past decade or more at least...and he has been a very serviceable WR. He is still playing..and contributed quite a bit to the Panthers playoff run this year...didn't he?
Just a few nitpicky items:
Can you call a QB that took his team to the Super Bowl a bust? Rex Grossman did just that.
And I think that Ted Ginn is far from a bust. He may have been a bit overdrafted, yes. But he has been one of the best return men in the game for the past decade or more at least...and he has been a very serviceable WR. He is still playing..and contributed quite a bit to the Panthers playoff run this year...didn't he?
This list was compiled in 2016 I believe things can vary more over time plus lists can be subjective.
Some QBs might be on teams and only have to "not lose it", generally rare but does happen. Was Dilfer one?
Ginn, eh good kick returner.
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Ginn has been no challenge to Jerry Rice or Randy Moss as a receiver...but he has been adequate and serviceable there. This past year he had his second highest receiving yards of his career....short by only 3 yards of his best.
Receiving & Rushing
Games Receiving Rushing Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 166 71 668 362 5072 14.0 29 88 2.2 30.6 62 442 2 43 7.1 2.7 0.4 5514 31 23 57 3 yrs CAR 47 23 260 134 2047 15.3 19 88 2.9 43.6 22 187 0 43 8.5 4.0 0.5 2234 19 3 21 3 yrs MIA 48 35 242 128 1664 13.0 5 64 2.7 34.7 16 124 2 40 7.8 2.6 0.3 1788 7 10 18 3 yrs SFO 40 3 70 33 384 11.6 1 37 0.8 9.6 11 86 0 24 7.8 2.2 0.3 470 1 5 7 1 yr ARI 16 0 26 14 190 13.6 0 27 0.9 11.9 3 6 0 4 2.0 0.4 0.2 196 0 3 2 1 yr NOR 15 10 70 53 787 14.8 4 54 3.5 52.5 10 39 0 15 3.9 2.6 0.7 826 4 2 9 2007 22 MIA WR 19 16 9 71 34 420 12.4 2 54 2.1 26.3 47.9% 4 3 0 7 0.8 0.2 0.3 423 2 3 4 2008 23 MIA WR 19 16 14 93 56 790 14.1 2 64 3.5 49.4 60.2% 5 73 2 40 14.6 4.6 0.3 863 4 5 8 2009 24 MIA WR 19 16 12 78 38 454 11.9 1 53 2.4 28.4 48.7% 7 48 0 22 6.9 3.0 0.4 502 1 2 6 2010 25 SFO 19 13 0 35 12 163 13.6 1 37 0.9 12.5 34.3% 2 11 0 9 5.5 0.8 0.2 174 1 1 2 2011 26 SFO wr 19 14 3 33 19 220 11.6 0 26 1.4 15.7 57.6% 8 68 0 24 8.5 4.9 0.6 288 0 0 5 2012 27 SFO 19 13 0 2 2 1 0.5 0 1 0.2 0.1 100.0% 1 7 0 7 7.0 0.5 0.1 8 0 4 0 2013 28 CAR wr 19 16 2 68 36 556 15.4 5 47 2.3 34.8 52.9% 4 29 0 14 7.3 1.8 0.3 585 5 0 6 2014 29 ARI 19 16 0 26 14 190 13.6 0 27 0.9 11.9 53.8% 3 6 0 4 2.0 0.4 0.2 196 0 3 2 2015 30 CAR WR 19 15 13 97 44 739 16.8 10 74 2.9 49.3 45.4% 4 60 0 43 15.0 4.0 0.3 799 10 0 9 2016 31 CAR WR 19 16 8 95 54 752 13.9 4 88 3.4 47.0 56.8% 14 98 0 20 7.0 6.1 0.9 850 4 3 6 2017 32 NOR WR 19 15 10 70 53 787 14.8 4 54 3.5 52.5 75.7% 10 39 0 15 3.9 2.6 0.7 826 4 2 9 -
And, as noted, one of the premier return men:
Kick & Punt Returns
Games Punt Returns Kick Returns Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Ret Yds TD Lng Y/R Rt Yds TD Lng Y/Rt APYd Career 166 71 257 2600 4 87 10.1 305 6898 3 102 22.6 15010 3 yrs CAR 47 23 82 795 0 41 9.7 44 994 0 59 22.6 4023 3 yrs MIA 48 35 36 312 1 87 8.7 147 3386 2 101 23.0 5484 3 yrs SFO 40 3 94 1113 2 78 11.8 87 2045 1 102 23.5 3628 1 yr ARI 16 0 26 277 1 71 10.7 22 417 0 43 19.0 890 1 yr NOR 15 10 19 103 0 17 5.4 5 56 0 17 11.2 985 2007 22 MIA WR 19 16 9 24 230 1 87 9.6 63 1433 0 52 22.7 2084 2008 23 MIA WR 19 16 14 7 54 0 15 7.7 32 657 0 41 20.5 1574 2009 24 MIA WR 19 16 12 5 28 0 12 5.6 52 1296 2 101 24.9 1826 2010 25 SFO 19 13 0 24 321 1 78 13.4 47 992 0 61 21.1 1487 2011 26 SFO wr 19 14 3 38 466 1 55 12.3 29 800 1 102 27.6 1554 2012 27 SFO 19 13 0 32 326 0 38 10.2 11 253 0 31 23.0 587 2013 28 CAR wr 19 16 2 26 316 0 41 12.2 25 595 0 38 23.8 1496 2014 29 ARI 19 16 0 26 277 1 71 10.7 22 417 0 43 19.0 890 2015 30 CAR WR 19 15 13 27 277 0 37 10.3 1 8 0 8 8.0 1084 2016 31 CAR WR 19 16 8 29 202 0 19 7.0 18 391 0 59 21.7 1443 2017 32 NOR WR 19 15 10 19 103 0 17 5.4 5 56 0 17 11.2 985 -
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So all of you amateur draft day geniuses who think you've got it all figured out just look how good or BAD, the 32 teams and all of their experts and huge staffs and big budgets have done over the years.
Also look at the few really good UFAs that slipped through the cracks did. Who will be this year's undiscovered talents?
I can't wait.
So all of you amateur draft day geniuses who think you've got it all figured out just look how good or BAD, the 32 teams and all of their experts and huge staffs and big budgets have done over the years.
Also look at the few really good UFAs that slipped through the cracks did. Who will be this year's undiscovered talents?
I can't wait.
Yeah- and perusing the bust list, the Browns are seriously over represented there. Probably why we've sucked for going on 20 years.
I have to agree with Gip. Ted Ginn may not have lived up to his draft status, but he certainly can't be labelled a "bust".
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Tedd Ginn definitely isn't a bust. Dude can still ball. Victor Cruz was ballin' before he got injured, and Moreno was solid before the same.
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Tedd Ginn definitely isn't a bust. Dude can still ball. Victor Cruz was ballin' before he got injured, and Moreno was solid before the same.
Tedd Ginn definitely isn't a bust. Dude can still ball. Victor Cruz was ballin' before he got injured, and Moreno was solid before the same.
Cruz was a real steal as an undrafted player, Moreno had talent now Ginn certainly better than most on the bust line of the 3rd best draft in that 15 year span. And oh those #22 players keep popping up all over......don't we BROWNS fans know that!
FOR ALL OF THE GOOD PLAYERS IN THOSE 15 DRAFTS SEE THE LINK.
3. 2007 - Busts (pick): Russell (1st), Gaines Adams (4th), Levi Brown (5th), Jamaal Anderson (8th), Ted Ginn Jr. (9th), Amobi Okoye (10th), Adam Carriker (13th), Brady Quinn (22nd)
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I know it’s a little early to try and evaluate last year’s crop of first rounders, but here’s what they look like in the eyes of PFF. . .
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I know it’s a little early to try and evaluate last year’s crop of first rounders, but here’s what they look like in the eyes of PFF. . .
I know it’s a little early to try and evaluate last year’s crop of first rounders, but here’s what they look like in the eyes of PFF. . .
Yeah sometimes it does take a few years to get a good read with all of the potential variables quarterbacks included. Occasionally though you can see some stars quickly emerging. Too bad Garrett got injured I think he has some real potential on this the youngest team in the NFL.
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I know it’s a little early to try and evaluate last year’s crop of first rounders, but here’s what they look like in the eyes of PFF. . .
I know it’s a little early to try and evaluate last year’s crop of first rounders, but here’s what they look like in the eyes of PFF. . .
Lattimore and Foster tied for the best scores with 90.7.
But interestingly....it is the two TEs, OJ Howard,a nd Even Ingram that got the two lowest scores. Does that say something about the position per se....or about the fact that TEs need more time to develop.....or does it say that these two just coincidentally had the worst year?
On the other hand....our boy Jabrill is seen sucking third hind tit.
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