Dorsey Taking Charge
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🥷 duck,duck,goose... https://www.brownszone.com/2018/03/11/commentary-theres-no-quick-fix-for-gm-john-dorsey-but-hes-off-to-strong-start-in-cleaning-up-mess-left-by-sashi-brown/
Yep....but the one fix he had no authority to do was to pick his own HC. But I think that will be something he will be allowed to address come some point in the season where Dorsey will see that no amount of personell upgrades will make up for Hue's poor coaching. But....maybe it will work out, now that Haley is here as OC....and Hue's effect on this team will be minimalized.
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🥷 duck,duck,goose... https://www.brownszone.com/2018/03/11/commentary-theres-no-quick-fix-for-gm-john-dorsey-but-hes-off-to-strong-start-in-cleaning-up-mess-left-by-sashi-brown/
Yep....but the one fix he had no authority to do was to pick his own HC. But I think that will be something he will be allowed to address come some point in the season where Dorsey will see that no amount of personell upgrades will make up for Hue's poor coaching. But....maybe it will work out, now that Haley is here as OC....and Hue's effect on this team will be minimalized.
Yep....but the one fix he had no authority to do was to pick his own HC. But I think that will be something he will be allowed to address come some point in the season where Dorsey will see that no amount of personell upgrades will make up for Hue's poor coaching. But....maybe it will work out, now that Haley is here as OC....and Hue's effect on this team will be minimalized.
Well, as the article said- if McCarron was Hue's guy, Dorsey told him to frack off over that idea.
In a mild adios to Sashi he did do a few (and far too few) good things but not nearly enough to make up for the massive blunders. The botched McCarron deal- which in hindsight was a good thing giving up WAY too much for AJ, and bringing in Zeitler and Tretter.
And we do have a few playmakers- Garrett was a no brainer- a monkey suffering from Alzheimer's could have got that one right, and Bringing in Collins.
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Yep....but the one fix he had no authority to do was to pick his own HC. But I think that will be something he will be allowed to address come some point in the season where Dorsey will see that no amount of personell upgrades will make up for Hue's poor coaching. But....maybe it will work out, now that Haley is here as OC....and Hue's effect on this team will be minimalized.
Well, as the article said- if McCarron was Hue's guy, Dorsey told him to frack off over that idea.
In a mild adios to Sashi he did do a few (and far too few) good things but not nearly enough to make up for the massive blunders. The botched McCarron deal- which in hindsight was a good thing giving up WAY too much for AJ, and bringing in Zeitler and Tretter.
And we do have a few playmakers- Garrett was a no brainer- a monkey suffering from Alzheimer's could have got that one right, and Bringing in Collins.
Well, as the article said- if McCarron was Hue's guy, Dorsey told him to frack off over that idea.
In a mild adios to Sashi he did do a few (and far too few) good things but not nearly enough to make up for the massive blunders. The botched McCarron deal- which in hindsight was a good thing giving up WAY too much for AJ, and bringing in Zeitler and Tretter.
And we do have a few playmakers- Garrett was a no brainer- a monkey suffering from Alzheimer's could have got that one right, and Bringing in Collins.
Of course....some of us still say that Trubisky may have been a better choice!! 🥷
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LA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can remember -
LA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberLA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberya gotta think they know what JT's plan is by now? regardless, the 2 top draft picks have to factor in as well. we still need help at CB,S,DE with pass rush ability & vet DT..am hearing DE Vinny Curry maybe out at Eagles..am in for losing a pick.DE has a boatload of options in FA's. D.Poe,S.Richardson,David Irving even Daquan Jones from Titans could all play Williams DT cause were in nickle 60% of the time anyway (4-2-5).Poe played 3-4 at KC than 4-3 at Atlanta..the space eater factor is all that matters up front regardless how teams line up.
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According to some on twitter its either 49rs, Bears or us for Allen Robinson ...... if it comes down to cash I am confident
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LA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberLA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberWhat are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
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LA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberWhat are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
Three at least come to mind. I thought Danny Shelton was it worthwhile player especially in light of the Improvement of the run defense this past year and I thought it was too early to dump DeShone Kizer.
And Taylor sucks and any bridge would have served as well and a lot less cost.
WSS
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What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
Three at least come to mind. I thought Danny Shelton was it worthwhile player especially in light of the Improvement of the run defense this past year and I thought it was too early to dump DeShone Kizer.
And Taylor sucks and any bridge would have served as well and a lot less cost.
WSS
Two at least come to mind. I thought Danny Shelton was it worthwhile player especially in light of the Improvement of the run defense this past year and I thought it was too early to dump DeShone Kizer.
WSS
What I thought he meant was that there were 3 other trades that were possibly proposed that were not done.
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What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
Three at least come to mind. I thought Danny Shelton was it worthwhile player especially in light of the Improvement of the run defense this past year and I thought it was too early to dump DeShone Kizer.
And Taylor sucks and any bridge would have served as well and a lot less cost.
WSS
Two at least come to mind. I thought Danny Shelton was it worthwhile player especially in light of the Improvement of the run defense this past year and I thought it was too early to dump DeShone Kizer.
WSS
I'm still thinking Chubb is in this mix somehow. Run stopper who can also get to the QB.
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To Dorsey in charge - So far, he's doing something very positive. He's single handedly changing the team culture.
He's come to a team finishing a zero win season and at the depths of it's popularity. Like us, he KNEW that he couldn't lure a FA here...to a team with no QB and no credible receivers. But he recognized that he had all these draft picks...and the youngest team in the league...so he TRADED some of 'em for a QB and a Receiver (& DB). He has shown the FA market that he now HAS a QB that you can win some games with, and he got him some help in the slot, all the while having the #1 & 4 selections in the draft and knowing that the best QB in this draft class will be joining the team along with you. - now...a FA might ask his agent, "How much was Cleveland offering again?"
I love it. Dorsey to himself, "If I can't lure you here, I'll trade for your-butt and bring you in kicking and scratching."
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LA @TheRealLA__ 47m47 minutes ago
Browns made 4 deals, missed on 3 deals, still trying to make a couple others ---- they're being as aggressive as I can rememberWhat are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
LOL Gip classified information. We'll never know.
Form your own opinon: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/12/17103704/2018-nfl-free-agent-grades-trades-offseason-moves
Guess? Going back to missing on Alex Smith, and not getting Cordy Glenn if Joe has told them he's retiring..... That's two......
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To Dorsey in charge - So far, he's doing something very positive. He's single handedly changing the team culture.
He's come to a team finishing a zero win season and at the depths of it's popularity. Like us, he KNEW that he couldn't lure a FA here...to a team with no QB and no credible receivers. But he recognized that he had all these draft picks...and the youngest team in the league...so he TRADED some of 'em for a QB and a Receiver (& DB). He has shown the FA market that he now HAS a QB that you can win some games with, and he got him some help in the slot, all the while having the #1 & 4 selections in the draft and knowing that the best QB in this draft class will be joining the team along with you. - now...a FA might ask his agent, "How much was Cleveland offering again?"
I love it. Dorsey to himself, "If I can't lure you here, I'll trade for your-butt and bring you in kicking and scratching."
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What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
LOL Gip classified information. We'll never know.
Form your own opinon: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/12/17103704/2018-nfl-free-agent-grades-trades-offseason-moves
Guess? Going back to missing on Alex Smith, and not getting Cordy Glenn if Joe has told them he's retiring..... That's two......
LOL Gip classified information. We'll never know.
Form your own opinon: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/12/17103704/2018-nfl-free-agent-grades-trades-offseason-moves
Guess? Going back to missing on Alex Smith, and not getting Cordy Glenn if Joe has told them he's retiring..... That's two......
get the feeling Dorsey got torked off Alex Smith got done so early..he, don't get fooled again..rolled up the sleeves Friday, "Coffee Fetter,get me a beer,were going roster cut shopping".. than we get to FA Wednesday
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What are these 3 deals that you say they missed on?
LOL Gip classified information. We'll never know.
Form your own opinon: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/12/17103704/2018-nfl-free-agent-grades-trades-offseason-moves
Guess? Going back to missing on Alex Smith, and not getting Cordy Glenn if Joe has told them he's retiring..... That's two......
LOL Gip classified information. We'll never know.
Form your own opinon: https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/12/17103704/2018-nfl-free-agent-grades-trades-offseason-moves
Guess? Going back to missing on Alex Smith, and not getting Cordy Glenn if Joe has told them he's retiring..... That's two......
OK, I was just thinking in the last few days. But Smith would apply. I guess, sorta, maybe so would Jimmy Garrapolo...but that deal was done before Dorsey got here, I believe.
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Taking charge? Sure... if spending money is "taking charge". And to make his trades look good, he's going to have to spend more... a lot more.
Right now he has:
- a journeyman QB on a one-year deal,
- a slot receiver on a one year deal, and
- a FS candidate on a one-year deal.
I could care less about locking up Tyrod. Our future QB is not yet on the roster and if he takes more than a year to develop, then we took the wrong prospect.
Landry is a different story. He's a high quality slot WR that can be a definite piece of our future... but it's going to cost a lot to extend him. He's a durable WR who may be more than willing to bet on himself and play out the tag.
Randall... potentially the best move to date. Kizer had no future in CLE, and while his value might have increased with time and development, it might not have. By all accounts Damarious is a good CB and an even better FS candidate. Our GB imports are no doubt responsible for this move. It did not hurt that they even came with the knowledge that Kizer was well regarded by GB in last year's draft and was in the discussion for use of the 33rd pick. Randall is probably the most sure to sign an extension.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
T does a rare flyby and drops pesticide all over us..........
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Taking charge? Sure... if spending money is "taking charge". And to make his trades look good, he's going to have to spend more... a lot more.
Right now he has:
- a journeyman QB on a one-year deal,
- a slot receiver on a one year deal, and
- a FS candidate on a one-year deal.
I could care less about locking up Tyrod. Our future QB is not yet on the roster and if he takes more than a year to develop, then we took the wrong prospect.
Landry is a different story. He's a high quality slot WR that can be a definite piece of our future... but it's going to cost a lot to extend him. He's a durable WR who may be more than willing to bet on himself and play out the tag.
Randall... potentially the best move to date. Kizer had no future in CLE, and while his value might have increased with time and development, it might not have. By all accounts Damarious is a good CB and an even better FS candidate. Our GB imports are no doubt responsible for this move. It did not hurt that they even came with the knowledge that Kizer was well regarded by GB in last year's draft and was in the discussion for use of the 33rd pick. Randall is probably the most sure to sign an extension.
Taking charge? Sure... if spending money is "taking charge". And to make his trades look good, he's going to have to spend more... a lot more.
Right now he has:
- a journeyman QB on a one-year deal,
- a slot receiver on a one year deal, and
- a FS candidate on a one-year deal.
I could care less about locking up Tyrod. Our future QB is not yet on the roster and if he takes more than a year to develop, then we took the wrong prospect.
Landry is a different story. He's a high quality slot WR that can be a definite piece of our future... but it's going to cost a lot to extend him. He's a durable WR who may be more than willing to bet on himself and play out the tag.
Randall... potentially the best move to date. Kizer had no future in CLE, and while his value might have increased with time and development, it might not have. By all accounts Damarious is a good CB and an even better FS candidate. Our GB imports are no doubt responsible for this move. It did not hurt that they even came with the knowledge that Kizer was well regarded by GB in last year's draft and was in the discussion for use of the 33rd pick. Randall is probably the most sure to sign an extension.
But is that all bad? We still have a ton of cap room. Regarding Landry- I'll take the NFL's best slot receiver over a 4th round pick anytime. So we may have overpaid a bit for Taylor, but we still have our top 5 picks. Not that much difference between #64 and #65.
And don't get mad at Dorsey. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Sashi and crew would have passed on Landry- Taco posted the analytics.
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