Shelton traded to the Patriots
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Not to mention the Bills benched him twice last season because he was playing so shitty but he is going to come here and clean up this dumpster fire? Come on man.
Not to mention the Bills benched him twice last season because he was playing so shitty but he is going to come here and clean up this dumpster fire? Come on man.
And despite that...he led them to their first playoffs since 1999. If they had left him in instead of letting Nathan Peterman in to throw 5 Ints, their playoff position may in fact have been a bit better. They may have been able to get a matchup with the more vulnerable Chiefs rather than the Jags. They still had a close game vs. the Jags...who should have made it into the Super Bowl, really.
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the bills' one starting wr was undrafted. Not a stellar crew to work with.
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I wish someone could explain this
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
This is pretty typical. We love a guy. Then he gets traded and we love the trade. Then we go 0 - 16 because at the end of the day, the Browns are STILL not acquiring any top fukcing playmakers. Same old schidt, and again you guys just fukcking fall into order like dildoes in a wine box.
in Sewage we trust, In Williams we trust, in Hue we trust, now we have another jackoff................... IN DORKEY WE TRUST.
Hue Jackson is the head coach, the Browns ain't going nowhere............................
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Bottom line... Danny was one-dimensional regardless of "scheme". It's just that in a 3-4 you forgive your NT for not generating pass pressure.
We (Schobert) will miss his block-eating run Defense, but he was no help to our pass rush. Covey showed better balance in his line play all year long and Brantley came on late.
Supposedly we have interest in Texas' Poona Ford...
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