How to get Lebron to stay in Cleveland
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nmills said:
StartersMo
Ariza
LeBron
Artest
Z
Bench
West
Gibson
Rasheed Wallace
Hickson
Camby
Z needs to retire .... please retire.
AdaM said:
Z needs to retire .... please retire.Why? he had a good season
he didn't have a favorable matchup againt Howard but I dont no a player that does. Z's never been a banger and never will, his games pick and roll, mid range jumpers and second chance points. If Z did retire who would be our center?
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AdaM said:
Z needs to retire .... please retire.Why? he had a good season
he didn't have a favorable matchup againt Howard but I dont no a player that does. Z's never been a banger and never will, his games pick and roll, mid range jumpers and second chance points. If Z did retire who would be our center?
nmills said:
Why? he had a good seasonhe didn't have a favorable matchup againt Howard but I dont no a player that does. Z's never been a banger and never will, his games pick and roll, mid range jumpers and second chance points. If Z did retire who would be our center?
He doesn't have a favorable matchup with any other big man in the league, thats the problem.
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nmills said:
Why? he had a good seasonhe didn't have a favorable matchup againt Howard but I dont no a player that does. Z's never been a banger and never will, his games pick and roll, mid range jumpers and second chance points. If Z did retire who would be our center?
He doesn't have a favorable matchup with any other big man in the league, thats the problem.
AdaM said:
He doesn't have a favorable matchup with any other big man in the league, thats the problem.Z's in the top 3rd as far as centers in the league, definently not the worst.
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AdaM said:
He doesn't have a favorable matchup with any other big man in the league, thats the problem.Z's in the top 3rd as far as centers in the league, definently not the worst.
nmills said:
Z's in the top 3rd as far as centers in the league, definently not the worst.He's not good enough to put CLE over the hump. He's been here 10 years and 6 of those with Lebron, no championships.
We have to get better at the Center position.
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We need a widebody that is hard to push around under the basket that can get offensive rebounds and throw the hammer down when in close instead of taking jumpshots.
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Anyone who can get easy buckets. Even Varejao is becoming a better offensive option than Z, with the ability to catch and finish in traffic...but still resorts to some ridiculous spin moves and layups. Shaq's 60% FGs are pretty appealing, a guy like Josh Smith with the ability to finish, who put in the right offense could easily get 18 ppg at 50% FG, would be pretty nice as well (and obviously a better long term option than Z or Shaq).
It's going to be just a maddening offseason and regular season. We can speculate all we want, but nothing matters until next summer.
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nmills said:
Z's in the top 3rd as far as centers in the league, definently not the worst.He's not good enough to put CLE over the hump. He's been here 10 years and 6 of those with Lebron, no championships.
We have to get better at the Center position.
AdaM said:
He's not good enough to put CLE over the hump. He's been here 10 years and 6 of those with Lebron, no championships.We have to get better at the Center position.
I agree we need to get better, but whats the alternative? If we get shaq were good but if not who do you suggest? I cant think of a center available other than Shaq that would be an upgrade over Z
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shaq and cold weather ?
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nmills said:
Z's in the top 3rd as far as centers in the league, definently not the worst.He's not good enough to put CLE over the hump. He's been here 10 years and 6 of those with Lebron, no championships.
We have to get better at the Center position.
AdaM said:
He's not good enough to put CLE over the hump. He's been here 10 years and 6 of those with Lebron, no championships.We have to get better at the Center position.
agreed, we need a big physical center.... oh hey shaq
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