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  • This is really a dumb conversation. Tennessee is a good example... how many good QBs were before Manning, or Miami (OH) (Big Ben), Michigan (Brady), Cal (Rodgers), and so on... which college they went to means absolutely nothing...

    @thenew23 said:

    This is really a dumb conversation. Tennessee is a good example... how many good QBs were before Manning, or Miami (OH) (Big Ben), Michigan (Brady), Cal (Rodgers), and so on... which college they went to means absolutely nothing...

    It is called:   Entertainment.

    And actually....it DOES mean something if you are a fan of a particular school.

    (and FYI, Cal had two former QBs start Super Bowls before Aaron Rodgers:    Craig Morton and Joe Kapp)

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here is one way to answer the question:   What is QBU:

    I am looking at the PFR career Production Average of the Top 250 players in NFL history...or at least since they did measuring of this which is like from 1960 forward.

    Of these 250 Top players,   45 of them are QBs.   So....the following are schools that had multiple QBs come out of there in the Top 45 productive QBs since the 60s:

    Purdue has 3:   Dawson, Griese, Brees

    Alabama has 3:   Namath, Starr, Stabler

    Stanford has 2;   Brodie, Elway

    NC St. has 2:  Roman Gabriel and Phillip Rivers

    Cal has 2:   Aaron Rodgers and Craig Morton

    And that is it...all other schools had just one.   

    Now, this leaves out a lot of guys.   Because it is a career production average.....guys with longer careers got more points.

    Take Miami Fla.....the only QB in the top 45 CA was:  Vinny Testaverde.......meaning that Kosar and Kelly were not in there.  And anyone that knows anything knows that Kelly and Kosar were better QBs than Vinny.....yet that is how these particular numbers came out.

    If you are using a stat as a measuring stick that does not include Jim Kelly, I would get rid of that stat.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    If you are using a stat as a measuring stick that does not include Jim Kelly, I would get rid of that stat.

    Zombo

    Fair point.....but, I had used any number of other measuring sticks:    QBs in the HOF,    QBs who started in Super Bowls;  QBs who were drafted in the first round....etc.   This was just another poker chip in the ante.    If you have another measuring stick to suggest.....I would be glad to flesh it out.