Hue Jackson
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Hue has not impressed me (positively) as either a talent evaluator or as a game day coach. I do think he is a good motivator. But I'm also glad he now has a game day OC. We have a better chance at not taking TO's near the first play of the game that way.

Uncle Fester should no longer be the coach of this team.....I am pretty confident that 99% of all people here....and all Browns fans, feel that way.
Uncle Fester should no longer be the coach of this team.....I am pretty confident that 99% of all people here....and all Browns fans, feel that way.
He's being retained on the team , to service Dee's fetishes...
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Uncle Fester should no longer be the coach of this team.....I am pretty confident that 99% of all people here....and all Browns fans, feel that way.
He's being retained on the team , to service Dee's fetishes...
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Hue has not impressed me (positively) as either a talent evaluator or as a game day coach. I do think he is a good motivator. But I'm also glad he now has a game day OC. We have a better chance at not taking TO's near the first play of the game that way.

Good points Aggies.
Here's my Dollar Store take. He was hired 2 years ago to be a Head Coach; and all we got was a lousy Offensive Coordinator. This will be the 1st year he is the Head Coach. If he has the right Coordinators, I see no reason he can't be a much better Head Coach than he was as an OC here. He spent so much time trying to square peg round holes at QB - that he saw the rest of the team with the vision of an ostrich with his head in the sand. This at least takes the head out of the sand.
That plus an upgrade in talent here SHOULD reduce his desperation impulses he didn't have nearly as frequently as an OC of a more talented Offense in Cincy that went 12-4 in 2015 (which dropped to 6-9-1 immediately after he left). We only view the guy from our situation here while many of his former players (ie; Andrew Whitworth) and colleagues had very high praise for the guy's coaching ability.
It'll be interesting to see how he responds to the ideal opportunity this off season has blessed him with. I'm hoping he becomes the Head Coach I thought he could be here. If not, we have a much more experienced FO that will upgrade the coach at a place they made into a much better recruiting attraction.
Good points Aggies.
Here's my Dollar Store take. He was hired 2 years ago to be a Head Coach; and all we got was a lousy Offensive Coordinator. This will be the 1st year he is the Head Coach. If he has the right Coordinators, I see no reason he can't be a much better Head Coach than he was as an OC here. He spent so much time trying to square peg round holes at QB - that he saw the rest of the team with the vision of an ostrich with his head in the sand. This at least takes the head out of the sand.
That plus an upgrade in talent here SHOULD reduce his desperation impulses he didn't have nearly as frequently as an OC of a more talented Offense in Cincy that went 12-4 in 2015 (which dropped to 6-9-1 immediately after he left). We only view the guy from our situation here while many of his former players (ie; Andrew Whitworth) and colleagues had very high praise for the guy's coaching ability.
It'll be interesting to see how he responds to the ideal opportunity this off season has blessed him with. I'm hoping he becomes the Head Coach I thought he could be here. If not, we have a much more experienced FO that will upgrade the coach at a place they made into a much better recruiting attraction.
Translation: Hue Needs to take on an administrator role in organizing the team. Therefore leaving the X's and O's to the coordinators and let them do they're jobs , and stay out of the way. Just stand there with your arms folded.
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Hue has not impressed me (positively) as either a talent evaluator or as a game day coach. I do think he is a good motivator. But I'm also glad he now has a game day OC. We have a better chance at not taking TO's near the first play of the game that way.

Good points Aggies.
Here's my Dollar Store take. He was hired 2 years ago to be a Head Coach; and all we got was a lousy Offensive Coordinator. This will be the 1st year he is the Head Coach. If he has the right Coordinators, I see no reason he can't be a much better Head Coach than he was as an OC here. He spent so much time trying to square peg round holes at QB - that he saw the rest of the team with the vision of an ostrich with his head in the sand. This at least takes the head out of the sand.
That plus an upgrade in talent here SHOULD reduce his desperation impulses he didn't have nearly as frequently as an OC of a more talented Offense in Cincy that went 12-4 in 2015 (which dropped to 6-9-1 immediately after he left). We only view the guy from our situation here while many of his former players (ie; Andrew Whitworth) and colleagues had very high praise for the guy's coaching ability.
It'll be interesting to see how he responds to the ideal opportunity this off season has blessed him with. I'm hoping he becomes the Head Coach I thought he could be here. If not, we have a much more experienced FO that will upgrade the coach at a place they made into a much better recruiting attraction.
That plus an upgrade in talent here SHOULD reduce his desperation impulses he didn't have nearly as frequently as an OC of a more talented Offense in Cincy that went 12-4 in 2015 (which dropped to 6-9-1 immediately after he left).
Interesting thought to which I'd only add that now there is no one to moderate any impulses whereas in Cinci there was Marvin... who has always struck me as a pretty cool character.
Not hard for me to imagine Marvin staying in Hue's headset with, "Stay with the run, Hue, stay with the run." And more...
The real question for me is whether Hue's ego and insecurities will allow him to allow his OC's the freedom they need to help save him from himself. For evidence look no further than how he is trying to portray himself as unplugged from the draft process only due to the hectic nature of the moment.
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I'll bet you $1000 that the Browns do not draft Lamar Jackson.
Dang, wish I had your confidence- I only bet Ghoolie $100 in another thread. Let's see if fat mouth will ante up, my bet is he won't. .
The real question for me is whether Hue's ego and insecurities will allow him to allow his OC's the freedom they need to help save him from himself. For evidence look no further than how he is trying to portray himself as unplugged from the draft process only due to the hectic nature of the moment.
Tour, RE: Cinci. Hue had a bunch of elite talent there on O, and a studly defense that could keep them in games if he screwed up. They came crashing back to earth when cheapo Mikey Brown let Whitworth, Zeitler, Marvin Jones, and Mohammed Sanu leave uncontested.
It's pretty funny- despite Ghoolie's idiotic protestations to the contrary, Hue is acting & talking like he has a real say in the draft, but all the evidence since Dorsey has taken over says exactly the opposite.
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I'll bet you $1000 that the Browns do not draft Lamar Jackson.
Dang, wish I had your confidence- I only bet Ghoolie $100 in another thread. Let's see if fat mouth will ante up, my bet is he won't. .
The real question for me is whether Hue's ego and insecurities will allow him to allow his OC's the freedom they need to help save him from himself. For evidence look no further than how he is trying to portray himself as unplugged from the draft process only due to the hectic nature of the moment.
Tour, RE: Cinci. Hue had a bunch of elite talent there on O, and a studly defense that could keep them in games if he screwed up. They came crashing back to earth when cheapo Mikey Brown let Whitworth, Zeitler, Marvin Jones, and Mohammed Sanu leave uncontested.
It's pretty funny- despite Ghoolie's idiotic protestations to the contrary, Hue is acting & talking like he has a real say in the draft, but all the evidence since Dorsey has taken over says exactly the opposite.
Dang, wish I had your confidence- I only bet Ghoolie $100 in another thread. Let's see if fat mouth will ante up, my bet is he won't. .
Tour, RE: Cinci. Hue had a bunch of elite talent there on O, and a studly defense that could keep them in games if he screwed up. They came crashing back to earth when cheapo Mikey Brown let Whitworth, Zeitler, Marvin Jones, and Mohammed Sanu leave uncontested.
It's pretty funny- despite Ghoolie's idiotic protestations to the contrary, Hue is acting & talking like he has a real say in the draft, but all the evidence since Dorsey has taken over says exactly the opposite.
All depends on how much confidence Jimmy and Dorsey have in the guy. We are no strangers to NFL smoke screens and it could be that they wanted to show a united front and continuity in the coaching staff When selecting free agents and acquiring draft players.
If that's the case I'd be surprised if he has a huge amount of sway over the process. If it isn't, and they truly think he's going to turn things around this season he might. Of course if the first scenario I would guess somebody had another coach in mind for when we go zero and six. Maybe the offense of coordinator steps up at midseason? Maybe that's in the back of somebody's mind from the beginning? Coach Haley? Coach Williams? Can't think of any other blue-chip head coach prospects sitting on the couch.
WSS
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I'll bet you $1000 that the Browns do not draft Lamar Jackson.
Dang, wish I had your confidence- I only bet Ghoolie $100 in another thread. Let's see if fat mouth will ante up, my bet is he won't. .
The real question for me is whether Hue's ego and insecurities will allow him to allow his OC's the freedom they need to help save him from himself. For evidence look no further than how he is trying to portray himself as unplugged from the draft process only due to the hectic nature of the moment.
Tour, RE: Cinci. Hue had a bunch of elite talent there on O, and a studly defense that could keep them in games if he screwed up. They came crashing back to earth when cheapo Mikey Brown let Whitworth, Zeitler, Marvin Jones, and Mohammed Sanu leave uncontested.
It's pretty funny- despite Ghoolie's idiotic protestations to the contrary, Hue is acting & talking like he has a real say in the draft, but all the evidence since Dorsey has taken over says exactly the opposite.
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Just now, on the NFL Network, Hue said he enjoyed collecting marbles. Wonder if he still has 'em or has he lost his marbles?

Mike
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Just now, on the NFL Network, Hue said he enjoyed collecting marbles. Wonder if he still has 'em or has he lost his marbles?

Mike
Just now, on the NFL Network, Hue said he enjoyed collecting marbles. Wonder if he still has 'em or has he lost his marbles?

Mike
must have missed it? Mine says NFL Playoffs: Upon further Review..after further review.. we missed that too?
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Just now, on the NFL Network, Hue said he enjoyed collecting marbles. Wonder if he still has 'em or has he lost his marbles?

Mike
must have missed it? Mine says NFL Playoffs: Upon further Review..after further review.. we missed that too?
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