QBs-We'll know 4/26/18
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Wonderlic scores for 2018 QBs
- Josh Allen: 37
- Josh Rosen: 29
- Sam Darnold: 28
- Baker Mayfield: 25
- Lamar Jackson: 13
This then brings us to the question...
Are Wonderlic scores important for NFL players?
The short answer: it depends on who you ask, and what position.
In a column for Sports Illustrated, Edward Krupat, PhD, wrote, that the Wonderlic is "an outdated way of thinking about intelligence when it comes to predicting performance on the football field."
MORE: Optimum Scouting's latest 2018 NFL Mock Draft
An artcile on Medium did some research on quarterback scores and discovered, "There seems to be a sort of smartness threshold, where the best NFL quarterbacks need to be at least this smart to see success. But once a QB passes that threshold (around a score of 25), their additional smartness has little to no effect on success on the field."
Even Middlekauff, who released the 2018 scores, says, "everything matters when it comes to quarterbacks." This is part of why he released some of the scores.
What is the Wonderlic test?
Let's take Wikipedia's definition:
The Wonderlic Personnel Test is a popular group intelligence test used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a range of occupations. The Wonderlic is available in 12 different languages and is often used in college, entry level jobs, and team-making efforts. It consists of 50 multiple choice questions to be answered in 12 minutes.
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Here's a link to the above article...
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Damn!!! Now if we could just sync up on the Barkley Bandwagon...
Dawg, I'm blown away right now! LOL
What are the odds that two dudes, posting on the same thread- post the exact same information at the same time? I would have rather used that Sheet on the Mega Millions lottery tomorrow... but you are a good enough consolation prize- that was amazing!
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Damn!!! Now if we could just sync up on the Barkley Bandwagon...
Dawg, I'm blown away right now! LOL
What are the odds that two dudes, posting on the same thread- post the exact same information at the same time? I would have rather used that Sheet on the Mega Millions lottery tomorrow... but you are a good enough consolation prize- that was amazing!
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Here's a link to the above article...
Here's a link to the above article...
Beat me to it Po- just no to Lamar Jackson- just one more reason.
Damn!!! Now if we could just sync up on the Barkley Bandwagon...
Keep the Barkley stuff in the Barkley thread guy. You keep posting more videos over there- I'm going to start deleting them. You're the only one who cares about it anymore- so just keep it to yourself. Over on the 'Tard- the last comment on Saquon was 2 weeks ago- get the drift? One thread- six pages. Not three threads 50 pages.
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FYI....the NFL is relying less and less on the Wonderlic. There is another test they are using:
In an attempt to look for qualities that are more closely associated with football, the NFL began to administer the Player Assessment Tool in 2013. This one-hour test, devised by an employment lawyer and a psychology professor, borrows closely from the principles used to select firefighters and attempts to assess motivation, learning styles, and other psychological attributes as well as various mental abilities. While clearly a step in the right direction, this new test in predicting football productivity hasn’t been around long enough to be deemed a success yet.
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The one big difference between Leaf and Allen is the fact that Leaf was a headcase. He was a mess off the field and the biggest difference between then and now is that teams for the most part are doing their due diligence (yes, JFF was a major mistake but that was Jimmah's call). Allen and Darnold are not those types of guys. That's why I think both can be successful. Mayfield is the most accurate but his personality worries me for the same reasons. I don't think he handles failure well and there are going to be plenty of times where he will fail. Rosen is the modern millenial. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing. He has refined his craft, beautiful mechanics and enjoys playing football. However, he is smart enough to know that this game is brutal, concussions are real, and he's willing to be a social activist (nothing wrong with that except from the perception of fans). He is the kind of guy who will play 10 years, make tons of money be very successful and then get out early, IMOP.
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Rosen is the prettiest passer - his college coach suggested that Darnold would be a better 'fit' for our team and that Rosen would 'fit' better on one of the New York teams.
Darnold is the ugliest passer - his coach agrees that he would be a good fit for Cleveland.
Allen 'could' be the next Derick Anderson - but he also could be the next John Elway.
For all of the talking expert heads saying that you cannot compare Mayfield to Manziel - I can picture that little guy scurrying around behind our OL and running like he was running from the cops after planting a flag and grabbing his junk.
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The one big difference between Leaf and Allen is the fact that Leaf was a headcase. He was a mess off the field and the biggest difference between then and now is that teams for the most part are doing their due diligence (yes, JFF was a major mistake but that was Jimmah's call). Allen and Darnold are not those types of guys. That's why I think both can be successful. Mayfield is the most accurate but his personality worries me for the same reasons. I don't think he handles failure well and there are going to be plenty of times where he will fail. Rosen is the modern millenial. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing. He has refined his craft, beautiful mechanics and enjoys playing football. However, he is smart enough to know that this game is brutal, concussions are real, and he's willing to be a social activist (nothing wrong with that except from the perception of fans). He is the kind of guy who will play 10 years, make tons of money be very successful and then get out early, IMOP.
The one big difference between Leaf and Allen is the fact that Leaf was a headcase. He was a mess off the field and the biggest difference between then and now is that teams for the most part are doing their due diligence (yes, JFF was a major mistake but that was Jimmah's call). Allen and Darnold are not those types of guys. That's why I think both can be successful. Mayfield is the most accurate but his personality worries me for the same reasons. I don't think he handles failure well and there are going to be plenty of times where he will fail. Rosen is the modern millenial. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing. He has refined his craft, beautiful mechanics and enjoys playing football. However, he is smart enough to know that this game is brutal, concussions are real, and he's willing to be a social activist (nothing wrong with that except from the perception of fans). He is the kind of guy who will play 10 years, make tons of money be very successful and then get out early, IMOP.
If the Browns had any qb who lasted 10 years, the fans would Sheet themselves in excitement
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Hue wants Lamar "Next to Shake the Earth" Jackson, or Baker "Pied Piper" Mayfield. Dorsey likes Allen and D'Arnold. It's simple. Who jimmy likes, they take.
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