■ 2018 - 2019 ODDS TO WIN THE NCAA FOOTBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ■

The Gipper

@mld-woody said:

Gip, you can keep saying you're about facts, that doesn't make it true. Any unbiased person can see that. You've proven that time and time again whenever OSU or Michigan is involved.

Home Field Advantage is obviously relevant in college football. What are you talking about?

Plus, we play MSU and OSU on the road, so what are you even talking about? Plus ND on the road.

Unbiased? You expect me to be unbiased about OSU/Michigan? What fuyucking planet have you been living on? Hello...McFly...is anybody home?

Besides....I agreed with you that the FMU schedule was brutal. WTF was it about that that you did not understand.

Nevertheless.....It is a FACT that FMU plays only one P5 non conf. game...OSU plays 2. It is also a FACT that you DO have those tough games vs. Wisconsin and Penn State at home. OSU has to play Penn St. on the road...and they too have to play Mich. St. on the road.

As I said....the ONLY factor that I can see that gives FMU a more "brutal" schedule than OSU is that Wisconsin game. (if you count the game vs. each other as a wash....though playing OSU on the road is another factor.)

Your problem....apparently...is that you just cannot handle someone agreeing with you. Mich. does have a brutal schedule, for sure.

So what do you think, with that brutal schedule: 7-5? 6-6?

gumby73

@canton-dawg said:

I think LSU would be a better fit.

Why not Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley? Sooners better Qb Kyler Murray is playing baseball & looking more like MLBaseball. Riley and Sooners still have talent & with Burrow it would close the gap with Bama at #1. Burrow may even play Michigan or Buckeyes in major bowl at Homa..

Canton Dawg

@gumby73 said:

Why not Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley? Sooners better Qb Kyler Murray is playing baseball & looking more like MLBaseball. Riley and Sooners still have talent & with Burrow it would close the gap with Bama at #1. Burrow may even play Michigan or Buckeyes in major bowl at Homa..

I think he would be a great fit the Sooners, but I haven't heard any rumors about Joe going to Norman.

No matter where Burrow goes, the Buckeye's AD must sign off on the transfer.

That will probably put the nix on the Nebraska rumor (since Joe has family working for the Cornhuskers) because I can't see OSU letting him go to another Big 10 team.

gumby73

@canton-dawg said:

I think he would be a great fit the Sooners, but I haven't heard any rumors about Joe going to Norman.

It' been brewing https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930 Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.

Canton Dawg

@gumby73 said:

It' been brewing https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930 Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.

I’ve heard the rumors of UC, Florida, LSU, and Nebraska but haven’t heard about Oklahoma.

I think Riley could use a QB of Burrow’s caliber...I hope he lands there.

The Gipper

Burrows should go play in the MAC.

Canton Dawg

@the-gipper said:

Burrows should go play in the MAC.

Joe has the talent to play in one of the P5 conferences, so if he went to the MAC it would be a step down.

Urban never felt the need to play Burrows because he didn't recruit him.

Which in hindsight, is probably better for Burrow's being developed as a QB elsewhere.

Its not like Urban Meyer is a QB whisperer...just look at JT Barrett.

MLD Woody

Well to be fair to Urban, whether he is or isn't, his system doesn't require it.

It will be interesting to see if they utilize the passing game more now with Haskins at QB.

The Gipper

@canton-dawg said:

Joe has the talent to play in one of the P5 conferences, so if he went to the MAC it would be a step down.

Urban never felt the need to play Burrows because he didn't recruit him.

Which in hindsight, is probably better for Burrow's being developed as a QB elsewhere.

Its not like Urban Meyer is a QB whisperer...just look at JT Barrett.

Sure, look at him: one of the most successful college QBs of all time. As was Braxton Miller before him. And don't forget that he had Tebow at FLA.

And that he developed Alex Smith at Utah.

So, while it may not be said that he develops a lot of QBs that end up doing well in the NFL....he has had some. Smith: #1 overall pick...still starting in the NFL. Tebow....one game when he punked the Steelers...that was good enough for me out of him. His OSU QBs? Not designed to really move to the next level.

He coaches QBs to win at Ohio State....not necessarily beyond that.

I mean, honestly....some of the best pro QBs ever were not necessarily the cream of the crop when it came to their college careers. Brady....had to fight for a starting job his whole time at Mich. Brees...went to Purdue....where they likely won nothing. Ben R. Good in college, likely underrecruited.

Favre, Marino, the Mannings....Rivers, etc. Not great success per se in College.

And, FYI, here is the list of QBs who have won the national championships since 2000:

Josh Heupel Okla

Ken Dorsey Miami

Craig Krenzel Ohio St.

Matt Mauck LSU

Matt Leinert USC

Vince Young Texas

Chris Leak Florida

Matt Flynn LSU

Tim Tebow Florida

Greg McElroy Alabama

Cam Newton Auburn

AJ McCarron Alabama

Jameis Winston FSU

Cardale Jones OSU

Jake Coker Ala.

DeShaun Watson Clemson

Jalen Hurt Ala.

Only one single proven quality NFL starter there. Newton. Others, like Winston and Watson still have the book out on them. A couple were thought to be strong pro QB candidates, but flamed out: Young, Leinert. One became a decent backup QB at best: Flynn.

So, I think I can say this with some confidence: total success in the college game does not really translate into success in the NFL. And vice versa....QBs have to be good....but their NFL prowess may have little with how they ...or their team, did in college.

gumby73

@canton-dawg said:

I’ve heard the rumors of UC, Florida, LSU, and Nebraska but haven’t heard about Oklahoma.

I think Riley could use a QB of Burrow’s caliber...I hope he lands there.

Joe announced going to LSU. That will move the LSU odds..Hoping Joe does well there..

MLD Woody

I bet he does well there. LSU is usually everything but a QB

gumby73

@gumby73 said:

It' been brewing https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930 Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.

Lincoln Riley's QB Kyler Murray to replace Baker Mayfield just went 9th overall to Oakland in MLB draft..Baker still thinks Kyler would break his school records if plays Oklahoma football. Thats a big "if" for Lincoln & Baker now

syd

@mjp28 said:

Michigan football schedule 2018

Date Opponent Location
April 14 Michigan spring game Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 1 at No. 9 Notre Dame Notre Dame, Ind.
Sept. 8 Western Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 15 SMU Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 22 Nebraska Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 29 at Northwestern Evanston, Ill.
Oct. 6 Maryland Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 13 No. 6 Wisconsin Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 20 at No. 16 Michigan State East Lansing, Mich.
Oct. 27 Bye Off
Nov. 3 No. 10 Penn State Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 10 at Rutgers Piscataway, N.J.
Nov. 17 Indiana Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 24 at No. 4 Ohio State Columbus, Ohio
Dec. 1 Big Ten championship Indianapolis
Games in bold denote Big Ten games

by November I would expect Nebraska to be ranked

8 wins for the season

wargograw

Woody, what’s your record prediction for michigan this year?

MLD Woody

Oh man, I'll have to think about that.

We'll for sure be better than last year. Essentially everyone returned. Even if we're so unlucky to get to our 3rd string QB, they're a bug step up from Okorn. Shae should be an improvement as a starter. We could also have the best defense in the country.

We have one of the toughest schedules in the country though. Plus some uncertainty at offensive tackle which could really hurt.

The opener at ND will be huge going forward.

I want to say 10-2, optimistically, but the schedule is just really rough. Maybe 9-3?

But we can't continue to be perpetually unlucky forever, right? We'll get some of that OSU good fortune at some point.... Right? .... right....

mjp28

September 1, 2018 is just around the corner, from our friends at vegasinsider.com on July 27, 2018.....

ODDS TO WIN 2018 ACC CHAMPIONSHIP (12/1/18) (for more see site) http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures/

Team	Odds
Clemson	1/2
Miami, Fl.	5/1
Florida State	9/1
Louisville	16/1
Virginia Tech	16/1
North Carolina State	20/1
Boston College	25/1
Georgia Tech	40/1
Duke	50/1
Wake Forest	50/1
Pittsburgh	66/1
Syracuse	75/1
North Carolina	100/1
Virginia	100/1

ODDS TO WIN 2018 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP (12/1/18)

Team	Odds
Oklahoma	7/5
Texas	3/1
Oklahoma State	6/1
West Virginia	6/1
TCU	7/1
Kansas State	16/1
Iowa State	20/1
Texas Tech	25/1
Baylor	33/1
Kansas	100/1

ODDS TO WIN 2018 BIG 10 CHAMPIONSHIP (12/1/18)

Team	Odds
Ohio State	3/2
Wisconsin	3/1 <--- the closest race in the power conferences
Penn State	9/2
Michigan	6/1
Michigan State	7/1
Northwestern	20/1
Iowa	25/1
Purdue	25/1
Nebraska	33/1
Minnesota	50/1
Indiana	66/1
Maryland	66/1
Rutgers	66/1
Illinois	100/1

ODDS TO WIN 2018 PAC-12 CHAMPIONSHIP (12/1/18)

Team	Odds
Washington	5/4
USC	3/1
Stanford	11/2
Oregon	15/2
Arizona	16/1
Utah	16/1
UCLA	18/1
California	20/1
Arizona State	25/1
Washington State	25/1
Colorado	40/1
Oregon State	100/1

ODDS TO WIN 2018 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP (12/1/18)

Team	Odds
Alabama	4/5
Georgia	3/1
Auburn	8/1
Mississippi State	12/1
Florida	16/1
LSU	20/1
Texas A&M	20/1
South Carolina	25/1
Missouri	33/1
Tennessee	40/1
Arkansas	66/1
Ole Miss	66/1
Kentucky	100/1
Vanderbilt	100/1

mjp28

On 8/1/2018:

ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/7/19)

Team	Odds
Alabama	2/1
Clemson	9/2
Ohio State	8/1 line went from 7/1 to 8/1, no big deal so far with the Urban story
Georgia	10/1
Washington	14/1
Michigan	16/1
Oklahoma	20/1
Penn State	25/1
Wisconsin	25/1
Auburn	33/1
Texas	33/1
Michigan State	40/1
Notre Dame	40/1
Florida State	50/1
Miami, Fl.	50/1

mjp28

Interesting to see how this all plays out beginning around week 3.

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

Interesting to see how this all plays out beginning around week 3.

What happens to the BIG TEN? How far do the BUCKEYES go?

I was just looking at ticket prices home and away they are really high! (now TICKETCITY) Highest in Columbus now $8,590.

https://www.ticketcity.com/college-football/ohio-state-buckeyes-football-tickets.html

SAT, SEP. 1	Noon	OREGON STATE ¹	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	ABC	– W
SAT, SEP. 8	3:30 p.m.	RUTGERS ²	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	BTN	– W
SAT, SEP. 15	8 p.m.	TCU	AT&T STADIUM (ARLINGTON, TX)	ABC	$76 to $18,809/ W
SAT, SEP. 22	TBA	TULANE ³	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	TBA	– W
SAT, SEP. 29	TBA	PENN STATE	BEAVER STADIUM (STATE COLLEGE, PA)	TBA	– W
SAT, OCT. 6	3:30 OR 4 p.m.	INDIANA ⁴	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	TBA	–
SAT, OCT. 13	TBA	MINNESOTA	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	TBA	–
SAT, OCT. 20	TBA	PURDUE	ROSS-ADE STADIUM (WEST LAFAYETTE, IN)	TBA	–
SAT, NOV. 3	TBA	NEBRASKA ⁵	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	TBA	–
SAT, NOV. 10	TBA	MICHIGAN STATE	SPARTAN STADIUM (EAST LANSING, MI)	TBA	–
SAT, NOV. 17	TBA	MARYLAND	MARYLAND STADIUM (COLLEGE PARK, MD)	TBA	–
SAT, NOV. 24	Noon	MICHIGAN ⁶	OHIO STADIUM (COLUMBUS, OH)	FOX	$223 to $5,055
SAT, DEC. 1	TBA	BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP	LUCAS OIL STADIUM (INDIANAPOLIS, IN)	FOX	–

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

Interesting to see how this all plays out beginning around week 3.

We are entering week 6 and the original March predictions at least at the top are essentially the same.

The BIG TEN has been a lot softer than anyone initally predicted.

AS OF 10-04-2018, so who will make the Final 4, two look like locks.

ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/7/19)

Team	Odds
Alabama	4/7
Ohio State	9/2 OSU HAS MOVED UP TO 4 1/2:1
Clemson	6/1
Georgia	15/2
Notre Dame	10/1
Oklahoma	18/1
Washington	25/1
Michigan	28/1
LSU	33/1
West Virginia	33/1
Penn State	40/1
Wisconsin	40/1
Auburn	50/1
Michigan State	66/1
Texas	66/1
UCF	66/1
Miami, Fl.	80/1
Oregon	100/1
Stanford	100/1
Colorado	150/1
Kentucky	150/1
Oklahoma State	200/1

Date	Opponent	Location
April 14	Michigan spring game	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 1	at No. 9 Notre Dame	Notre Dame, Ind.
Sept. 8	Western Michigan	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 15	SMU	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 22	Nebraska	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 29	at Northwestern	Evanston, Ill.
Oct. 6	Maryland	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 13	No. 6 Wisconsin	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 20	at No. 16 Michigan State	East Lansing, Mich.
Oct. 27	Bye	Off
Nov. 3	No. 10 Penn State	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 10	at Rutgers	Piscataway, N.J.
Nov. 17	Indiana	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 24	at No. 4 Ohio State	Columbus, Ohio
Dec. 1	Big Ten championship	Indianapolis