Kevin Hogan Traded
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Thread on Hogan’s erm, ability, here
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I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
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I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
Zombo said:
I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
How COULD he be?
Mike
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I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
Zombo said:
I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey enjoys getting rid of Kevin Hogan...
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I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
Zombo said:
I'm getting the feeling that Dorsey wasn't impressed with the QB room that Sashi and Hue put together...
Zombo
That is the understatement of the year thus far. You just moved into first place.
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Good Luck Hogan!
I think Washington has a great QB room now.
Alex Smith, Colt McCoy and Kevin Hogan. That is a really good room. I think that Hogan is the perfect blend of Smith and McCoy. I'll always be a big Colt McCoy fan. Damn, we could have had that room. I'd be happy with Hogan/Colt/Draftpick - We could have won some games if we built up the team around them.
......I think Washington has a great QB room now.
Alex Smith, Colt McCoy and Kevin Hogan. That is a really good room.....
Yeah all they need is one more to play bridge.
Actually I was hoping the BROWNS could have got A. Smith in the FA wars didnt, Colt is a swell backup quarterback, Kevin just has to remember to pay attention and bring his helmet to the games with him......hey he might have a shot at being a backup eventually.
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Why would Washington do that?
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That's not the case AT ALL.
Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.
Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.
And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh.
That's not the case AT ALL.
Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.
Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.
And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh.
Laughing now?
Good Luck Hogan!
I think Washington has a great QB room now.
Alex Smith, Colt McCoy and Kevin Hogan. That is a really good room. I think that Hogan is the perfect blend of Smith and McCoy. I'll always be a big Colt McCoy fan. Damn, we could have had that room. I'd be happy with Hogan/Colt/Draftpick - We could have won some games if we built up the team around them.
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! Buy that Hogan jersey now- We will take any bets up to the lottery level Hogan can't beat out Alex Smith.
You are sinking ever farther into the O-Zone Po. With the swap of draft picks- your Hero was worth about a 7th rounder. Andrew Luck he isn't.
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Paid 16M for a QB,still have a 2nd round pick this draft. Kizer got us a player(D.Randle) & minus -29 spots combined in rounds 4 & 5. Kessler gifted us a Jags 7th round in 2019, if Kess sticks.Mighty Hogan a plus +17 in round 6.. quite the QB room?aye Maybe the worst QB room in Browns History or NFL History? Maybe the QB whisper should whisper..
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Paid 16M for a QB,still have a 2nd round pick this draft. Kizer got us a player(D.Randle) & minus -29 spots combined in rounds 4 & 5. Kessler gifted us a Jags 7th round in 2019, if Kess sticks.Mighty Hogan a plus +17 in round 6.. quite the QB room?aye Maybe the worst QB room in Browns History or NFL History? Maybe the QB whisper should whisper..
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Well I always like Kevin Hogan. But the writing's on the wall they have a veteran that's had some success a mentor and they're going to take who they think is the best prospect in the draft.
That doesn't leave a lot of room for the fourth guy. Hope he does well wherever he goes.
WSS
I don't think anyone on this board has anything against Kevin Hogan, like no one on here has anything against Josh Allen personally.
But when both of their cheerleader's are such clueless, annoying twits... well...
BYE FELICIA!
I don't think anyone on this board has anything against Kevin Hogan, like no one on here has anything against Josh Allen personally.
But when both of their cheerleader's are such clueless, annoying twits... well...
BYE FELICIA!
If watching Kizer didn't always feel like nails on a chalk board - I would have understood the hostility toward Poe. How many times do we need to see a kid swing at a pinata and miss with blindfolds on before we realize there's gotta be a better way to produce some goodies? We spent all of 2017 investing time, reps and growing pains on an inexperienced/inaccurate QB we weren't even going to keep around for 2018. That rated right up there with trading for/signing Brock O for 19 million $ with zero intentions + zero reasons for keeping him.
Let's do the Queer Eye for the Wrong Guy math here: Waste 2nd round pick on Kizer + waste 3rd round pick on Kessler + waste 19 million $ on a former Denver 2nd round pick (Brock O) = Finding what family history on this board traces all the way back to Cupid through Kevin Hogan (not to be confused with Ancestry.Com or the Incestry.Com that Ghoolie uses to find all his Hershey Highway buddies in black and gold)
I'll fess up here and say I enjoyed the trend of seeing Hogan outplay Kizer and Kessler at every opportunity. The 2017 preseason numbers/ratings favoring Hogan were posted as well as the regular season numbers/ratings leading up to the forgettable start Hogan had. In the end, Hogan only really cost us the NFL equivalent value of a Walmart Cola before we got that money back moving up in round 6 from pick #205 to pick #188 of the 2018 draft.
Who was the hollow dome in KC that drafted this church mouse quiet but highly controversial Kevin Hogan anyway? What a beyostard! Can you imagine if he was in charge of drafting us the solution at QB? Oh wait, he IS in charge of that. The good news is some drafts are better than others; while grabbing a veteran FA QB that wins more than he loses via 90+ passer ratings and low turnover volumes can also be good news.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Well I always like Kevin Hogan. But the writing's on the wall they have a veteran that's had some success a mentor and they're going to take who they think is the best prospect in the draft.
That doesn't leave a lot of room for the fourth guy. Hope he does well wherever he goes.
WSS
Ditto Steve- I wish him well wherever he winds up. If he plays his cards right, he could be a long term backup in the league- like Colt McCoy. Honestly, Kev may not even be as good as Colt. It's just Po's creepy obsession with him that's disturbing. When he compared him to Joe Flacco- there's something wrong there.
Ditto Steve- I wish him well wherever he winds up. If he plays his cards right, he could be a long term backup in the league- like Colt McCoy. Honestly, Kev may not even be as good as Colt. It's just Po's creepy obsession with him that's disturbing. When he compared him to Joe Flacco- there's something wrong there.
Not for nothing Larry - but have you seen Joey Bottaflacco play after he held a salary cap hostage? And he's had better WRs than the junior varsity caliber WR Corps we've been looking at for way too long.
Looks to me like if he had been here, I could only think of the sound of Pink Floyd with these edited lyrics "All in all he's just another name on the shirt."
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Ditto Steve- I wish him well wherever he winds up. If he plays his cards right, he could be a long term backup in the league- like Colt McCoy. Honestly, Kev may not even be as good as Colt. It's just Po's creepy obsession with him that's disturbing. When he compared him to Joe Flacco- there's something wrong there.
Not for nothing Larry - but have you seen Joey Bottaflacco play after he held a salary cap hostage? And he's had better WRs than the junior varsity caliber WR Corps we've been looking at for way too long.
Looks to me like if he had been here, I could only think of the sound of Pink Floyd with these edited lyrics "All in all he's just another name on the shirt."
Not for nothing Larry - but have you seen Joey Bottaflacco play after he held a salary cap hostage? And he's had better WRs than the junior varsity caliber WR Corps we've been looking at for way too long.
Looks to me like if he had been here, I could only think of the sound of Pink Floyd with these edited lyrics "All in all he's just another name on the shirt."
I don't get the big deal with Flacco.. Hes very average to me...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I don't think anyone on this board has anything against Kevin Hogan, like no one on here has anything against Josh Allen personally.
But when both of their cheerleader's are such clueless, annoying twits... well...
BYE FELICIA!
If watching Kizer didn't always feel like nails on a chalk board - I would have understood the hostility toward Poe. How many times do we need to see a kid swing at a pinata and miss with blindfolds on before we realize there's gotta be a better way to produce some goodies? We spent all of 2017 investing time, reps and growing pains on an inexperienced/inaccurate QB we weren't even going to keep around for 2018. That rated right up there with trading for/signing Brock O for 19 million $ with zero intentions + zero reasons for keeping him.
Let's do the Queer Eye for the Wrong Guy math here: Waste 2nd round pick on Kizer + waste 3rd round pick on Kessler + waste 19 million $ on a former Denver 2nd round pick (Brock O) = Finding what family history on this board traces all the way back to Cupid through Kevin Hogan (not to be confused with Ancestry.Com or the Incestry.Com that Ghoolie uses to find all his Hershey Highway buddies in black and gold)
I'll fess up here and say I enjoyed the trend of seeing Hogan outplay Kizer and Kessler at every opportunity. The 2017 preseason numbers/ratings favoring Hogan were posted as well as the regular season numbers/ratings leading up to the forgettable start Hogan had. In the end, Hogan only really cost us the NFL equivalent value of a Walmart Cola before we got that money back moving up in round 6 from pick #205 to pick #188 of the 2018 draft.
Who was the hollow dome in KC that drafted this church mouse quiet but highly controversial Kevin Hogan anyway? What a beyostard! Can you imagine if he was in charge of drafting us the solution at QB? Oh wait, he IS in charge of that. The good news is some drafts are better than others; while grabbing a veteran FA QB that wins more than he loses via 90+ passer ratings and low turnover volumes can also be good news.
If watching Kizer didn't always feel like nails on a chalk board - I would have understood the hostility toward Poe. How many times do we need to see a kid swing at a pinata and miss with blindfolds on before we realize there's gotta be a better way to produce some goodies? We spent all of 2017 investing time, reps and growing pains on an inexperienced/inaccurate QB we weren't even going to keep around for 2018. That rated right up there with trading for/signing Brock O for 19 million $ with zero intentions + zero reasons for keeping him.
Let's do the Queer Eye for the Wrong Guy math here: Waste 2nd round pick on Kizer + waste 3rd round pick on Kessler + waste 19 million $ on a former Denver 2nd round pick (Brock O) = Finding what family history on this board traces all the way back to Cupid through Kevin Hogan (not to be confused with Ancestry.Com or the Incestry.Com that Ghoolie uses to find all his Hershey Highway buddies in black and gold)
I'll fess up here and say I enjoyed the trend of seeing Hogan outplay Kizer and Kessler at every opportunity.
Ah yes.... I'll never forget Hogan's one start... 1 TD 3 INTs... and 140 yards passing.... 113 net after subtracting his 4 sacks.
You go off the rails from time to time, Flugs, but rarely like this.
Osweiler was all about the 2nd round pick... which we still have BTW. And I am pretty sure that we did not know we weren't going to keep Kizer when we drafted him. In fact to find a lower cost QB bust than Kessler in a draft of ours you have to go back to Luke McCown in 2004.
Higher cost than Kizer? I'm sure you can rattle three relatively recent ones of the top of your head.
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Not for nothing Larry - but have you seen Joey Bottaflacco play after he held a salary cap hostage? And he's had better WRs than the junior varsity caliber WR Corps we've been looking at for way too long.
Looks to me like if he had been here, I could only think of the sound of Pink Floyd with these edited lyrics "All in all he's just another name on the shirt."
I don't get the big deal with Flacco.. Hes very average to me...
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He won a Super Bowl that's itHe won a Super Bowl that's it
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
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He won a Super Bowl that's itHe won a Super Bowl that's it
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
I think of that scene EVERY TIME Gip's posts go on repeat...
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If watching Kizer didn't always feel like nails on a chalk board - I would have understood the hostility toward Poe. How many times do we need to see a kid swing at a pinata and miss with blindfolds on before we realize there's gotta be a better way to produce some goodies? We spent all of 2017 investing time, reps and growing pains on an inexperienced/inaccurate QB we weren't even going to keep around for 2018. That rated right up there with trading for/signing Brock O for 19 million $ with zero intentions + zero reasons for keeping him.
Let's do the Queer Eye for the Wrong Guy math here: Waste 2nd round pick on Kizer + waste 3rd round pick on Kessler + waste 19 million $ on a former Denver 2nd round pick (Brock O) = Finding what family history on this board traces all the way back to Cupid through Kevin Hogan (not to be confused with Ancestry.Com or the Incestry.Com that Ghoolie uses to find all his Hershey Highway buddies in black and gold)
I'll fess up here and say I enjoyed the trend of seeing Hogan outplay Kizer and Kessler at every opportunity.
Ah yes.... I'll never forget Hogan's one start... 1 TD 3 INTs... and 140 yards passing.... 113 net after subtracting his 4 sacks.
You go off the rails from time to time, Flugs, but rarely like this.
Osweiler was all about the 2nd round pick... which we still have BTW. And I am pretty sure that we did not know we weren't going to keep Kizer when we drafted him. In fact to find a lower cost QB bust than Kessler in a draft of ours you have to go back to Luke McCown in 2004.
Higher cost than Kizer? I'm sure you can rattle three relatively recent ones of the top of your head.
Ah yes.... I'll never forget Hogan's one start... 1 TD 3 INTs... and 140 yards passing.... 113 net after subtracting his 4 sacks.
I wouldn't expect any fan that cornered himself into over-protective mode for Kizer to want to forget the loss we had the only time he didn't start. Here's some starts I'll never forget in the 15 games Kizer lost while he led the NFL in turnovers as someone hoping we had a better alternative than forfeit:
vrs Balt Kizer threw 0 TD 3 INT plus lost a fumble
vrs Balt in the rematch Kizer threw 0 TD 2 INT and lost a fumble.
vrs TN Kizer threw 0 TD 2 INT
vrs NYJ Kizer threw 0 TD 1 INT and lost a fumble
vrs Jax Kizer threw 1 TD 2 INT and lost 2 fumbles
vrs Chi Kizer threw 0 TD 2 INT
vrs IND Kizer threw 2 TD 3 INT
vrs Cin Kizer threw 0 TD 1 INT
Here's the 2017 comparison:
Kizer 15 Games 0-15 rec 53.6 comp% 6.1 avg 11 TD 22 INT 38 sacks for 226 yds 60.5 rate
Hogan 4 Games 0-1 rec 61.3 comp% 6.9 avg 4 TD 5 INT 6 sacks for 35 yds 71.9 rate
Go ahead and slap a Kizer is wonderful tuxedo on this and splash all the cologne you have to on it.
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