Draft Two QBs?
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As I heard someone say: by doing that, all that a team would produce is a sort of resentment by the #1 pick and a feeling that he was being undermined.
I believe that is pretty much true and why it would never happen.
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As I heard someone say: by doing that, all that a team would produce is a sort of resentment by the #1 pick and a feeling that he was being undermined.
I believe that is pretty much true and why it would never happen.
As I heard someone say: by doing that, all that a team would produce is a sort of resentment by the #1 pick and a feeling that he was being undermined.
I believe that is pretty much true and why it would never happen.
If the #1 was that insecure, then he was the wrong pick. These kids have been competing at every level, what's one more?
Taking the odds of a favorable outcome from 1:1 to 3:1 sure seems like an incentive to do it.
That said... any "football guy" GM is going to be confident enough in their choice that they would not spend two high picks.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
As I heard someone say: by doing that, all that a team would produce is a sort of resentment by the #1 pick and a feeling that he was being undermined.
I believe that is pretty much true and why it would never happen.
If the #1 was that insecure, then he was the wrong pick. These kids have been competing at every level, what's one more?
Taking the odds of a favorable outcome from 1:1 to 3:1 sure seems like an incentive to do it.
That said... any "football guy" GM is going to be confident enough in their choice that they would not spend two high picks.
If the #1 was that insecure, then he was the wrong pick. These kids have been competing at every level, what's one more?
Taking the odds of a favorable outcome from 1:1 to 3:1 sure seems like an incentive to do it.
That said... any "football guy" GM is going to be confident enough in their choice that they would not spend two high picks.
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
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If the #1 was that insecure, then he was the wrong pick. These kids have been competing at every level, what's one more?
Taking the odds of a favorable outcome from 1:1 to 3:1 sure seems like an incentive to do it.
That said... any "football guy" GM is going to be confident enough in their choice that they would not spend two high picks.
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
Why? I like Louis, but he was neither QB nor a 1st round pick.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
Why? I like Louis, but he was neither QB nor a 1st round pick.
Why? I like Louis, but he was neither QB nor a 1st round pick.
He was a GM...responsible for such things.
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He was a GM...responsible for such things.
Ummmm.... no. Has worked in a couple FOs, but has never been GM.
He did interview for the 49er job that Lynch won, however.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
was hoping for a nice ice cold Draft Beer when opened..But, Ok this got worse rather quickly..So will you ship me a Keg when this don't happen?
was hoping for a nice ice cold Draft Beer when opened..But, Ok this got worse rather quickly..So will you ship me a Keg when this don't happen?
Dilly Dilly!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
He was a GM...responsible for such things.
Ummmm.... no. Has worked in a couple FOs, but has never been GM.
He did interview for the 49er job that Lynch won, however.
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If the #1 was that insecure, then he was the wrong pick. These kids have been competing at every level, what's one more?
Taking the odds of a favorable outcome from 1:1 to 3:1 sure seems like an incentive to do it.
That said... any "football guy" GM is going to be confident enough in their choice that they would not spend two high picks.
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
Well....I think it was Louis Riddick who made this statement. In theory...he should know.
Just like the crazy talk of the Patriots trading all the way up to #4.
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1st overall maybe one in the later rounds no way I would pass up on a chance to get Chubb if he is there at 4
1st overall maybe one in the later rounds no way I would pass up on a chance to get Chubb if he is there at 4
Pick two quarterbacks at #1 & 4, what would they do with Tyler and Stanton, clipboard and PAT holder?
From odds shark .com https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/nfl-draft-prop-betting-odds
One of the top five picks to be traded on draft day is +225. Both the New York Giants at No. 2 and Cleveland Browns at No. 4 offer intriguing trade partners for teams that wish to move up. And with the necessity of a quality quarterback on a rookie salary becoming more and more important in the league, you could easily see teams like the Buffalo Bills or Arizona Cardinals selling the farm to move up into the top five to nab a signal-caller.
And of course, with the need for young QBs, they have been drafted higher and with more frequency in the last several years. Not since 1999 have five quarterbacks been taken in the first round but that is almost a guarantee this year with Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. And all five of those guys could go in the top half of the round. That leaves another 16 picks for teams with aging quarterbacks – paging the Steelers, Chargers and Patriots – to reach for the likes of Mason Rudolph.
WO WILL BE THE FIRST OVERALL PICKOdds as of April 23 at
- Sam Darnold -240<--- your odds on 1st pick, CLEVELAND BROWNS
- Josh Allen +160<----- maybe??
- Saquon Barkley +550
- Baker Mayfield +1000
- Josh Rosen +1800
- Bradley Chubb +4500
- WHO WILL BE THE SECOND OVERALL PICKOdds as of April 23t
- Saquon Barkley +190
- Bradley Chubb +275 <----- will Chubb survive this pick, probably YES!
- Sam Darnold +275
- Josh Allen +350
- Josh Rosen +400
- Baker Mayfield +1500
- Lamar Jackson +4000
- Mason Rudolph +6000
WHO WILL BE THE THIRD OVERALL PICK?Odds as of April 23 at
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WHO WILL BE THE THIRD OVERALL PICK? (a quarterback? )
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- Josh Rosen +140
- Baker Mayfield +160
- Sam Darnold +400
- Josh Allen +500
- Saquon Barkley +550
- Bradley Chubb +1100
WHO WILL BE THE FOURTH
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WHO WILL BE THE FOURTH OVERALL PICK?
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- Bradley Chubb -110<----- there it is your pick #4, CLEVELAND BROWNS
- Any Other Player -130
WL THE TOP 3 PICKS ALL BE QUARTERBACKS
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WILL THE TOP 3 PICKS ALL BE QUARTERBACKS?
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- Yes EVEN
- No -140 <----- the slight favorite NO!
WILL THE TOP 4 PICKS ALL BE QUARTERBACKS?
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
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WILL THE TOP 4 PICKS ALL BE QUARTERBACKS?
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- Yes +800
- No -2500 <----- a dramatic NO!
Remember too bookmakers #1 rule they do NOT like to lose money so these should be close.
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WILL ANY OF THE TOP 5 PICKS BE TRADED ON DRAFT DAY?
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- Yes +225
- No -250 <----- a pretty fair chance NO DRAFT DAY TOP 5 TRADES!
NFL DRAFT
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NFL DRAFT POSITION: SAQUON BARKLEY
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- OVER 4.5 +160
- UNDER 4.5 -230
- CHUBB?
- OVER 6.5 +185
- UNDER 6.5 -280
NFL
- MAYFIELD?
- OVER 17.5 -165
- UNDER 17.5 +125
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NFL DRAFT POSITION: LAMAR JACKSON
Odds as of April 23 at Bovada
- OVER 17.5 -165
- UNDER 17.5 +125
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
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The only bet I’ve placed is Mike Gesicki to be the first TE taken at 5/1 or +600 in your world
I’m looking at you Belichik sitting there at 23
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It would be hard to pass on Barkley or Chubb at 4.
Also, 2 - 1st round QBs means 2 big QB contracts. I dont see 2 QBs happening and after all this time Dorsey will make the right choice. He can draft that is for sure.
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It would be hard to pass on Barkley or Chubb at 4.
Also, 2 - 1st round QBs means 2 big QB contracts. I dont see 2 QBs happening and after all this time Dorsey will make the right choice. He can draft that is for sure.
It would be hard to pass on Barkley or Chubb at 4.
Also, 2 - 1st round QBs means 2 big QB contracts. I dont see 2 QBs happening and after all this time Dorsey will make the right choice. He can draft that is for sure.
My crystal ball says we go with Darnold, Giants take Barkey, Jets take a QB and we take Chubb. Broncos have a ton of choices including trade down.
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not a chance the browns take a qb at #1 and #4. Basically, the trade value of whomever "doesn't win" the qb battle goes significantly down the second the browns make the pick because everyone knows they are not going to keep both guys on the roster and there is no way you are going to get the equivalent of the #4 pick for him. Also, more importantly, there just aren't enough "reps" to really see what those guys can do. Especially with an established starter in TT and even if you eliminate Stanton, the number of reps with the #1's is going to be minimal at best. In addition, with the new salary cap rules and rookie scale, the best thing about taking a qb high in the draft is that if you "hit" on them, you have them for 5 years at basically the equivalent of the 16th highest paid qb in the game. That's cheap money that you can use to build the rest of the team. SO why would you want to risk that financially? In case you are wondering, if the browns took Barkley at #1, he would walk in as the #4 highest paid RB in the game before he even touches the ball (Carlos Hyde is already the 9th highest). The financial value of taking a rb that high is "at best" breaking even if he becomes all pro. Finally, taking two qbs in the top 5 basically admits as a GM you can not discover elite talent especially at the QB position. It's the ultimate scarlet letter. Now, I think it is very likely, the browns will take a second qb in this draft, perhaps using their fourth rounder or even trading up into the third (Mike White).
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It's not hard to pass on Chubb because there's a better pure rusher in the draft in Harold Landry.
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It's not hard to pass on Chubb because there's a better pure rusher in the draft in Harold Landry.
It's not hard to pass on Chubb because there's a better pure rusher in the draft in Harold Landry.
Well....that certainly remains to be seen.
But I see you are joining the contrarian club that thinks that a lower drafted player will turn out to be as good or better than the higher drafted players. See my Prudent Solutions thread.
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It's not hard to pass on Chubb because there's a better pure rusher in the draft in Harold Landry.
Well....that certainly remains to be seen.
But I see you are joining the contrarian club that thinks that a lower drafted player will turn out to be as good or better than the higher drafted players. See my Prudent Solutions thread.
But I see you are joining the contrarian club that thinks that a lower drafted player will turn out to be as good or better than the higher drafted players.
Because that's never happened before
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