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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Targeting Ward in Trade down?

    hate the idea of trading down..several BPA sit at #4.just Make the pick & stop passing..Dorsey(who was reported as going to church at 8am) has drafted 6 CB's,liking 6 fts. weighing 190lbs.'ish. ..Marcus Peters was the slowest at 4.53. Also dorsey seems to like Vertical numbers with longer arms at CB position.Josh Jackson,Alexander,I.Oliver seem more his style.. can we continue to play smurf's at CB with the size of our divisional WR's & TE's? 

    @gumby73 said:

    hate the idea of trading down..several BPA sit at #4.just Make the pick & stop passing..Dorsey(who was reported as going to church at 8am) has drafted 6 CB's,liking 6 fts. weighing 190lbs.'ish. ..Marcus Peters was the slowest at 4.53. Also dorsey seems to like Vertical numbers with longer arms at CB position.Josh Jackson,Alexander,I.Oliver seem more his style.. can we continue to play smurf's at CB with the size of our divisional WR's & TE's? 

    I picked Oliver for the Broncos in our draft just for those reasons. I like him better for us than I do Ward. Maybe @ #33 especially if we move up for a RB end of the 1st.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Targeting Ward in Trade down?

    hate the idea of trading down..several BPA sit at #4.just Make the pick & stop passing..Dorsey(who was reported as going to church at 8am) has drafted 6 CB's,liking 6 fts. weighing 190lbs.'ish. ..Marcus Peters was the slowest at 4.53. Also dorsey seems to like Vertical numbers with longer arms at CB position.Josh Jackson,Alexander,I.Oliver seem more his style.. can we continue to play smurf's at CB with the size of our divisional WR's & TE's? 

    @gumby73 said:

    Also dorsey seems to like Vertical numbers with longer arms at CB position.

    How does that eliminate Ward from consideration?

  • @the-gipper said:

    This is the scenario that I have heard discussed more than once on the radio and TV:

    Browns take their QB at #1

    Giants take Chubb with #2

    Jets take a QB with #3

    Then what do the Browns do?   They wanted Chubb at #4...but if the Giants nab him.....they are not willing to just settle for Barkley.  Dorsey don't want no RB in round one.....so....the do the trade with Buffalo:

    #4 for #12 and #22.

    And with those they get combination of maybe  CB,  OT, DE........guys like Tremaine Edwards,  Denzel Ward if he is still there, McGlinchey if he drops, Jaire Alexander, Marcus Davenport.

    It would NOT be a total surprise if something like this happens...at all.

    Not willing to "settle" for Barkley?

    What retarded radio and TV shows do you listen too?

    I listen to a lot and never heard that floated...

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Not willing to "settle" for Barkley?

    What Retarded radio and TV shows do you listen too?

    I listen to a lot and never heard that floated...

    Zombo

    The Gipper is perfectly capable of independent Retardism.

    WSS

  • Zombo said:

    Not willing to "settle" for Barkley?

    What Retarded radio and TV shows do you listen too?

    I listen to a lot and never heard that floated...

    Zombo

    The Gipper is perfectly capable of independent Retardism.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The Gipper is perfectly capable of independent Retardism.

    WSS

    You were my mentor in that regard.  Remember?  You and SamTanner.

  • Meanwhile back at the thread...

    I think the idea of trading down #4 is getting warmer.

  • The Browns have had only two top-five picks in the last ten years.  One last year and one Trent Richardson. And that's while being the worst team in the NFL.

    I wonder why they continue to suck.

    It's very likely they can nab the top two players on their board at one and four.  Worst case? Two of their top three. 

    Take the phucking picks. Don't be stupid. 

  • The Browns have had only two top-five picks in the last ten years.  One last year and one Trent Richardson. And that's while being the worst team in the NFL.

    I wonder why they continue to suck.

    It's very likely they can nab the top two players on their board at one and four.  Worst case? Two of their top three. 

    Take the phucking picks. Don't be stupid. 

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    The Browns have had only two top-five picks in the last ten years.  One last year and one Trent Richardson. And that's while being the worst team in the NFL.

    I wonder why they continue to suck.

    It's very likely they can nab the top two players on their board at one and four.  Worst case? Two of their top three. 

    Take the phucking picks. Don't be stupid. 

    This.

    Zombo

    --- Trading Julio Jones spot sure seemed shrewd to some at the time ... anyone from that still on the roster?

  • @gumby73 said:

    Also dorsey seems to like Vertical numbers with longer arms at CB position.

    How does that eliminate Ward from consideration?

    @tour2ma said:

    How does that eliminate Ward from consideration?

     one concern on Ward, he's 5'11". my bigger issue he is only 183 lbs.. sure he can vert. the high of 39". but can he do 38" with a 6' frame at 196lbs. with same arm length like Josh Jackson? I. Oliver has a full 2 1/4" longer arm than both.(33 1/2").pick our slow death..Ward can run with A.Bryant at 4.32? or J.Jackson/Oliver 6 ft. 200 hundies bang some big boy WR's around at 4.5 speed? Not reaching,but getting any of the 3 is the real trick😉  

  • The Browns have had only two top-five picks in the last ten years.  One last year and one Trent Richardson. And that's while being the worst team in the NFL.

    I wonder why they continue to suck.

    It's very likely they can nab the top two players on their board at one and four.  Worst case? Two of their top three. 

    Take the phucking picks. Don't be stupid. 

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    The Browns have had only two top-five picks in the last ten years.  One last year and one Trent Richardson. And that's while being the worst team in the NFL.

    I wonder why they continue to suck.

    It's very likely they can nab the top two players on their board at one and four.  Worst case? Two of their top three. 

    Take the phucking picks. Don't be stupid. 

    Butt, butt, butt the Browns have a reputation to maintain.🥷

  • Hmmmmmm how amny would count this guy as trustworthy 🙂

    Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 27m27 minutes ago
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    Hearing Browns will trade 4, but only when they are on the clock, not before the pick and they don't want to go down too far.
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    Hearing Browns will trade 4, but only when they are on the clock, not before the pick and they don't want to go down too far.

  • @tour2ma said:

    How does that eliminate Ward from consideration?

     one concern on Ward, he's 5'11". my bigger issue he is only 183 lbs.. sure he can vert. the high of 39". but can he do 38" with a 6' frame at 196lbs. with same arm length like Josh Jackson? I. Oliver has a full 2 1/4" longer arm than both.(33 1/2").pick our slow death..Ward can run with A.Bryant at 4.32? or J.Jackson/Oliver 6 ft. 200 hundies bang some big boy WR's around at 4.5 speed? Not reaching,but getting any of the 3 is the real trick😉  

    @gumby73 said:

     one concern on Ward, he's 5'11". my bigger issue he is only 183 lbs.. sure he can vert. the high of 39". but can he do 38" with a 6' frame at 196lbs. with same arm length like Josh Jackson? I. Oliver has a full 2 1/4" longer arm than both.(33 1/2").pick our slow death..Ward can run with A.Bryant at 4.32? or J.Jackson/Oliver 6 ft. 200 hundies bang some big boy WR's around at 4.5 speed? Not reaching,but getting any of the 3 is the real trick😉  

    I get that, gum, but Ward's speed makes it more likely that he is in position to use that Vert. to contest a high throw.

  • Picks at #4 since 2000

    Fournette

    Zeke

    Amari Cooper

    Sammy Watkins

    Lane Johnson

    Matt Kalil

    AJ Green

    Trent Williams

    How many "studs" or "blue chip" players on that list...?

  • A bunch?

  • Picks at #4 since 2000

    Fournette

    Zeke

    Amari Cooper

    Sammy Watkins

    Lane Johnson

    Matt Kalil

    AJ Green

    Trent Williams

    How many "studs" or "blue chip" players on that list...?

    @londonbrown said:

    Picks at #4 since 2000

    Fournette

    Zeke

    Amari Cooper

    Sammy Watkins

    Lane Johnson

    Matt Kalil

    AJ Green

    Trent Williams

    How many "studs" or "blue chip" players on that list...?

    But also  Duds like Aaron Curry, Gaines Adams, Cedric Benson, OT Mike Williams, Peter Warrick.

    But you also left out some other studs:   Phillip Rivers, D'Brickashaw Ferguson,  Justin Smith

  • It's possible they may want to trade down for OT or WR.  Which would be like drafting for need (and acquiring picks)...but leaving a blue chipper on the table.  

  • It's possible they may want to trade down for OT or WR.  Which would be like drafting for need (and acquiring picks)...but leaving a blue chipper on the table.  

    @orion said:

    ...but leaving a blue chipper on the table.  

    done did that..he plays QB in Houston..unless the brinks truck driver is on the phone? take the best player on the board.. 

  • @orion said:

    ...but leaving a blue chipper on the table.  

    done did that..he plays QB in Houston..unless the brinks truck driver is on the phone? take the best player on the board.. 

    @gumby73 said:

    done did that..he plays QB in Houston..

    Coronating him a tad early there, gumster...

  • @gumby73 said:

    done did that..he plays QB in Houston..

    Coronating him a tad early there, gumster...

    @tour2ma said:

    Coronating him a tad early there, gumster...

    finished 3rd in ROTY behind winner Kamara than Hunt..not liking our consensus decision so far

  • Tavern open

  • I stopped reading at "settle" for Barkley."