Draft Grades
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Drafttek scored us a lovely Stormy Daniels (double DDs)
1 Cleveland 
Baker Mayfield
Oklahoma
QB
Reach/Value: -10Height:
6'0"
Weight:
210
Every time I think Cleveland can't out-Brown themselves, they do prove me wrong. Incredible how often that tends to involve a quarterback. It isn't that I don't think Mayfield can succeed in the NFL. I am just not betting on it over Sam Darnold. Mayfield's pathological need for attention isn't making me feel very confident with egos like Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon on that team. I don't like it, but I am willing to admit I was wrong when he proves it. Wish I could be more optimistic but that's the best I've got. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D2 Danzel Ward CB OSU
I was going to use this space to keep complaining about Baker Mayfield but then this happened. Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most bizarre form of evaluating talent that I have ever seen. They took two players that were not valued in the top 5, in the top 5! Are they spinning a wheel in the Draft Room? What is going on? This is beyond my ability to explain. I get the need but the value is awful. I'm getting flashbacks of Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D
Drafttek scored us a lovely Stormy Daniels (double DDs)
1 Cleveland Baker Mayfield
Oklahoma
QB
Reach/Value: -10Height:
6'0"
Weight:
210
Every time I think Cleveland can't out-Brown themselves, they do prove me wrong. Incredible how often that tends to involve a quarterback. It isn't that I don't think Mayfield can succeed in the NFL. I am just not betting on it over Sam Darnold. Mayfield's pathological need for attention isn't making me feel very confident with egos like Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon on that team. I don't like it, but I am willing to admit I was wrong when he proves it. Wish I could be more optimistic but that's the best I've got. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D2 Danzel Ward CB OSU
I was going to use this space to keep complaining about Baker Mayfield but then this happened. Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most bizarre form of evaluating talent that I have ever seen. They took two players that were not valued in the top 5, in the top 5! Are they spinning a wheel in the Draft Room? What is going on? This is beyond my ability to explain. I get the need but the value is awful. I'm getting flashbacks of Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D
GOOD! Those so called "experts" have rated our drafts very high the last few years, so I cheerfully accept low grades from them. They've proven to me they have no credibility. Our true grades on this draft will be more apparent in 2-3 years.
I am also glad we kept our 2nd round picks.
Mike
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He might be the only one of the analysts whom gives those grades. The browns are getting crushed everywhere else.
He might be the only one of the analysts whom gives those grades. The browns are getting crushed everywhere else.
Actually we have to wait until the entire draft is in to see the master plan and what will work and what might not.
Last year they got great grades and pulled an 0-fer season.
The BROWNS overpaid in R1 they could have rebundled the picks and got their guys with more top R1 and R2 picks....but now we wait for September.
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well, the Browns have "won" the draft the past few years and it didn't pan out, maybe now since they "lost" the draft they will win where it counts. I'm not worried at all about either of these two players. I don't get people saying Mayfield has a big ego, he is nowhere near JFF. I'm pretty excited to see what he can do in the NFL. He was a college QB who was able to elevate the team around him to play up to the level of his opponents (the Ohio State game is the one that most readily comes to mind) and that is exactly what the Browns need. He's also a guy who is willing to put in the hours to study film and learn playbooks, something JFF definitely was not. Of course, he hasn't taken a single snap in the NFL yet so the jury is still out, but I have high hopes.
I was hoping the Browns would pick Fitzpatrick at #4 but I can live with it. I can see why they skipped out on Chubb, maybe Ogbah is healing nicely so DE wasn't as glaring a need as secondary help. Denzel Ward was the top ranked CB heading into the draft, and CB is a spot where the Browns desperately need help so I can't really bash this pick at all.
Every year after the draft I am optimistic about the Browns' chances, at least their record can't get any worse than last year's....right?
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Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance.
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Drafttek scored us a lovely Stormy Daniels (double DDs)
1 Cleveland Baker Mayfield
Oklahoma
QB
Reach/Value: -10Height:
6'0"
Weight:
210
Every time I think Cleveland can't out-Brown themselves, they do prove me wrong. Incredible how often that tends to involve a quarterback. It isn't that I don't think Mayfield can succeed in the NFL. I am just not betting on it over Sam Darnold. Mayfield's pathological need for attention isn't making me feel very confident with egos like Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon on that team. I don't like it, but I am willing to admit I was wrong when he proves it. Wish I could be more optimistic but that's the best I've got. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D2 Danzel Ward CB OSU
I was going to use this space to keep complaining about Baker Mayfield but then this happened. Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most bizarre form of evaluating talent that I have ever seen. They took two players that were not valued in the top 5, in the top 5! Are they spinning a wheel in the Draft Room? What is going on? This is beyond my ability to explain. I get the need but the value is awful. I'm getting flashbacks of Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D
Drafttek scored us a lovely Stormy Daniels (double DDs)
1 Cleveland Baker Mayfield
Oklahoma
QB
Reach/Value: -10Height:
6'0"
Weight:
210
Every time I think Cleveland can't out-Brown themselves, they do prove me wrong. Incredible how often that tends to involve a quarterback. It isn't that I don't think Mayfield can succeed in the NFL. I am just not betting on it over Sam Darnold. Mayfield's pathological need for attention isn't making me feel very confident with egos like Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon on that team. I don't like it, but I am willing to admit I was wrong when he proves it. Wish I could be more optimistic but that's the best I've got. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D2 Danzel Ward CB OSU
I was going to use this space to keep complaining about Baker Mayfield but then this happened. Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most bizarre form of evaluating talent that I have ever seen. They took two players that were not valued in the top 5, in the top 5! Are they spinning a wheel in the Draft Room? What is going on? This is beyond my ability to explain. I get the need but the value is awful. I'm getting flashbacks of Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D
I am good with Double Ds;
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Drafttek scored us a lovely Stormy Daniels (double DDs)
1 Cleveland Baker Mayfield
Oklahoma
QB
Reach/Value: -10Height:
6'0"
Weight:
210
Every time I think Cleveland can't out-Brown themselves, they do prove me wrong. Incredible how often that tends to involve a quarterback. It isn't that I don't think Mayfield can succeed in the NFL. I am just not betting on it over Sam Darnold. Mayfield's pathological need for attention isn't making me feel very confident with egos like Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon on that team. I don't like it, but I am willing to admit I was wrong when he proves it. Wish I could be more optimistic but that's the best I've got. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D2 Danzel Ward CB OSU
I was going to use this space to keep complaining about Baker Mayfield but then this happened. Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most bizarre form of evaluating talent that I have ever seen. They took two players that were not valued in the top 5, in the top 5! Are they spinning a wheel in the Draft Room? What is going on? This is beyond my ability to explain. I get the need but the value is awful. I'm getting flashbacks of Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert. ~ Austin Smith
Grade: D
I am good with Double Ds;
I am good with Double Ds;
Oh yes just check out the HOT cheerleaders and other babes thread.
But I'm ok with D, C, B even A in the right situation. Hey even our brownies got a few C grades after the day 1 draft.
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Dorsey committed to the players he wanted. To split hairs over taking either a few picks early is BS... especially at this point.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dorsey committed to the players he wanted. To split hairs over taking either a few picks early is BS... especially at this point.
Dorsey committed to the players he wanted. To split hairs over taking either a few picks early is BS... especially at this point.
Amazing how because they’ve read a few mocks everyone is an expert on who is going to be available and when.
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Dorsey committed to the players he wanted. To split hairs over taking either a few picks early is BS... especially at this point.
Dorsey committed to the players he wanted. To split hairs over taking either a few picks early is BS... especially at this point.
Although I'm not a Mayfield guy by any means, I've said on this board 100 times that the idea of not taking the guy you think is going to lead your franchise at QB #1 is downright moronic in thought. There's zero way to know what the Giants and Jets would have done if we took Barkley instead of Mayfield. It could very well be the Giants or Jets were sold on him, or the Cardinals were chomping at the bit to move to #2 if we didn't take the guy.
QB is the ethos of a football team. You don't risk getting the guy you want in the situation the Browns were in, period.
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Lets be honest, who gives a Sheet about what these pundits think of our draft. They have given us B to A grades the past 5 years, then those draft classes have proceeded to put us in a position to go 0-16.
Ruining threads since 1897. -
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Lets be honest, who gives a Sheet about what these pundits think of our draft. They have given us B to A grades the past 5 years, then those draft classes have proceeded to put us in a position to go 0-16.
Lets be honest, who gives a Sheet about what these pundits think of our draft. They have given us B to A grades the past 5 years, then those draft classes have proceeded to put us in a position to go 0-16.
I guess they're all grading on massive curve, nobody really gets an F no matter how bad they do......kind of like participation trophies in little league.
.......oh edit add, just checking out the above NFL.news day 1 & 2 grades in the AFCN the lowest grade was B+.
Now we all get to go to the Dairy Queen.
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The majority of these people handing out grades are not employed by an NFL team for a reason ....they suck .... let them play 3 years then grade them ....
The majority of these people handing out grades are not employed by an NFL team for a reason ....they suck .... let them play 3 years then grade them ....
That's no fun.
Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong.
We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did.
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The majority of these people handing out grades are not employed by an NFL team for a reason ....they suck .... let them play 3 years then grade them ....
That's no fun.
Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong.
We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did.
That's no fun.
Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the player will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong.
We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did.
Just stop it with awesome posts like this........
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Always been a fan of The Godfather Gil Brandt..Most scouts/gm's have a need to know? Gil's there Man. He finds grades being silly at this point..What I don't find silly is his top 150..Here's where we sit with his players ranked...Mayfield Gil ranked #4//////D.Ward #9//////N.Chubb #34////A.Corbett #62////C.Thomas #144...More than 3/4 of Gil's board is gone..Lots of good WR's are the majority left
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Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance.
Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance.
No, not really. Grading is just for fun...see my "awesome " post above.
Btw...looking forward to your thread analyzing the drafts of the AFCN...know your enemies!
I was ecstatic about getting Mason Rudolph!!! I'd be willing to bet that both Rudolph and the Ravens Lamar Jackson end up far superior QB's over Mayfield.
I would not be saying this if the Browns had selected Darnold or even Rosen.
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Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance.
No, not really. Grading is just for fun...see my "awesome " post above.
Btw...looking forward to your thread analyzing the drafts of the AFCN...know your enemies!
I was ecstatic about getting Mason Rudolph!!! I'd be willing to bet that both Rudolph and the Ravens Lamar Jackson end up far superior QB's over Mayfield.
I would not be saying this if the Browns had selected Darnold or even Rosen.
No, not really. Grading is just for fun...see my "awesome " post above.
Btw...looking forward to your thread analyzing the drafts of the AFCN...know your enemies!
I was ecstatic about getting Mason Rudolph!!! I'd be willing to bet that both Rudolph and the Ravens Lamar Jackson end up far superior QB's over Mayfield.
I would not be saying this if the Browns had selected Darnold or even Rosen.
Yes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong ha ha ha haYes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong
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Voice activation heard me say my boot off when I actually said Rudolph. Nevertheless my boot off might be a good nickname for him
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The majority of these people handing out grades are not employed by an NFL team for a reason ....they suck .... let them play 3 years then grade them ....
That's no fun.
Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong.
We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did.
That's no fun.
Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong.
As long as we don't turn that discernment on ourselves... count me in!
Yes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong ha ha ha haYes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong
Yup... drunk posting...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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