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Mayfield is no Brees

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  • V VikingDawg

    @the-gipper said:

    You are the one that says he wants blind obeisance to some unattainable standard that you seem to want to impose...on players/fans.  A standard you certainly fall far short of yourself.  I don't see, based on that...that there is anything or anyone out there for you to root for.

    (by the way...they are Social Security checks now...which I worked very hard to earn)

    OH WAIT....by the way....maybe there is a guy:

    Tim Tebow is playing for the Binghamton team at the Akron Rubber Ducks. So, you should go root for him.

    He is a young man with character.  Ain't worth spit as either a pro football player or baseball player.   But he was good at his level....and so you should stick to your level:   only follow holy rollers with minor league talent.

    This team is named after Paul Brown, a man who didn't let garbage like Callaway or Mayfield mop floors, much less play. If you want to cheer for a team full of scumbags then go follow the Yinzers or Ratbirds. They love your kind, welfare willy. 

    @vikingdawg said:

    This team is named after Paul Brown, a man who didn't let garbage like Callaway or Mayfield mop floors, much less play. If you want to cheer for a team full of scumbags then go follow the Yinzers or Ratbirds. They love your kind, welfare willy. 

    Transference.  I suspect that you are actually the one receiving welfare.  

    And you are wrong about Paul Brown......the Bengals legacy of giving people with wayward pasts began with him:

    The Bengals' history of second chances started with team founder and Hall of Famer Paul Brown in the Bengals' first season, 1968. In the fourth round, Paul Brown drafted Phillips, a former Michigan State player who was serving a prison sentence for forging a check.

    Upon Phillips' release, Mike Brown picked him up and drove him to training camp. 

    Phillips was "a kid with an engaging personality who has it all in front of him," Paul Brown said at the time. He turned out to be right. Phillips played six years with the Bengals and four more with the Saints, Raiders and Patriots.

    In those days, players didn't make enough money to live on and worked off-season jobs to get by. Phillips worked as a mortgage loan officer for Central Trust Bank in Cincinnati and later became a stock trader.

  • C calfoxwc

    having answered that, Alonzo -

    here is the real reasoning behind the decision to go with Mayfield - makes sense to me. It will be fun watching these qbs in this draft go through the next couple of years and see who was right.

    Personally, I'm really thinking we got the best guy to turn the Browns around now, without waiting for

    a whole year.

    https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/why-browns-vp-of-player-personnel-alonzo-highsmith-became-believer-in-baker-mayfield-during-pre-draft-process

    @calfoxwc said:

    here is the real reasoning behind the decision to go with Mayfield

    So............. racist?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    C 1 Reply
    😂

  • Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    W The GipperT 2 Replies
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  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    @kvoethe said:

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

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    hoortaH jrb12711J 2 Replies
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @calfoxwc said:

    here is the real reasoning behind the decision to go with Mayfield

    So............. racist?

    @tour2ma said:

    So............. racist?

    what ? that's obtuse, or just obnoxious, especially strange coming from you.

  • C calfoxwc

    @tour2ma said:

    So............. racist?

    what ? that's obtuse, or just obnoxious, especially strange coming from you.

    @calfoxwc said:

    what ? that's obtuse, or just obnoxious, especially strange coming from you.

    Was meant to be an allusion to the late-breaking "stuff" on Allen... but came out more than a little disconnected.

    Better?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @calfoxwc said:

    what ? that's obtuse, or just obnoxious, especially strange coming from you.

    Was meant to be an allusion to the late-breaking "stuff" on Allen... but came out more than a little disconnected.

    Better?

    @tour2ma said:

    Was meant to be an allusion to the late-breaking "stuff" on Allen... but came out more than a little disconnected.

    Better?

    Okay, I got it now. lol 

  • W Westside Steve

    @kvoethe said:

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

    Steve, for the Patriots to make that move up to #2, it would have taken their entire draft plus more to move up that high. If you remember when Bill was at Chubb's pro day he said, we won't be able to move up high enough to get you. 

    So with 20\20 hindsight, Po's dream of Barkley first, Mayfield second wasn't happening. Anyone but Baker at #1, it wasn't happening. Getting more obvious by the minute, the Teams had a far different opinion of Mayfield than the talking heads and draft wannabes did. 

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • W Westside Steve

    @kvoethe said:

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

    What's definitely interesting about this is that the agent really had no "play" to make this statement. His guy is the #1 pick on a rookie wage scale so it's not like he's vying for a bigger deal. He'd burn bridges for future affairs if he outright lied. 

    Hoorta is right, and I'm not the one looking to believe this by any means. It's just apparent that Mayfield was much more highly rated than we thought by many teams. As I said 100 times on here, with that mind any clown who says we could have had the dude at 4 is naive. I still don't get a fuzzy feeling with the pick, but in the situation the Browns were in you draft the franchise QB 100 times out of 100 first.

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

    @kvoethe said:

    Dunno if its been said in this marathon of jumbled threads 

    rumor coming out that the patriots were going to dump some picks to try to take mayfield at #2 if we didnt take him

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @westside-steve said:

    Agent says Patriots considered trading up to No. 2 for Baker Mayfield

    https://search.app.goo.gl/ErY39

    Shared from my Google feed

    WSS

    Steve, for the Patriots to make that move up to #2, it would have taken their entire draft plus more to move up that high. If you remember when Bill was at Chubb's pro day he said, we won't be able to move up high enough to get you. 

    So with 20\20 hindsight, Po's dream of Barkley first, Mayfield second wasn't happening. Anyone but Baker at #1, it wasn't happening. Getting more obvious by the minute, the Teams had a far different opinion of Mayfield than the talking heads and draft wannabes did. 

    @hoorta said:

    Steve, for the Patriots to make that move up to #2, it would have taken their entire draft plus more to move up that high. If you remember when Bill was at Chubb's pro day he said, we won't be able to move up high enough to get you. 

    So with 20\20 hindsight, Po's dream of Barkley first, Mayfield second wasn't happening. Anyone but Baker at #1, it wasn't happening. Getting more obvious by the minute, the Teams had a far different opinion of Mayfield than the talking heads and draft wannabes did. 

    Well.....as I said before:   By objective standards,  Mayfield was the best QB in college footballs.  It was the subjective standards that seemingly held him back in a lot of opinions:    a guy his height can't do it;   he was too immature;  he was a Johnny Clone.  etc.

    No on field stuff.   The Pro Scouts apparently focused more on the on field stuff than the off field stuff.

  • Mentioned in another thread that word from the pats camp was they were posed to put together a package to move up to 6 or 7 if Mayfield fell that far.

    As h pointed out, they really did not see themselves having the ammo to move up further... which of course translates to "did not like Mayfield's value" higher than 6/7.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Dr.FootwearD Dr.Footwear

    I went to Purdue and saw the majority of Brees’ games. Brees was a tennis player, which many believe helped with his footwork. Rosen was also a top tennis player. Mayfield is a clown who went against miserable B12 defenses and who won’t do anything in the NFL. Dumb pick. 

    @dr.footwear said:

    I went to Purdue and saw the majority of Brees’ games. Brees was a tennis player, which many believe helped with his footwork. Rosen was also a top tennis player. Mayfield is a clown who went against miserable B12 defenses and who won’t do anything in the NFL. Dumb pick. 

    So let me understand this. Despite (allegedly) living in Las Vegas, you can find nothing better to do than go onto a forum for a team you couldn't care less about and try to bait people you don't know, and who also couldn't care less about you,  into your uninformed and thoughtless conversation. Attention seeking that pathetically transparent is more than just a little sad.

    😂
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