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A Cautionary Note

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  • Just FYI.....generally...the losing QBs of the BCS and  National Championship games since 2000....have been no great shakes when it comes to the pro ranks either.   Here is that list:

    1998  FSU  Chris Weinke

    1999 Va. Tech Michael Vick

    2000 FSU  Weinke

    2001  Nebraska  Eric Crouch

    2002 Miami Fla.   Ken Dorsey

    2003 Oklahoma Jason White

    2004 Oklahoma  Jason White

    2005 USC  Matt Leinert

    2006 Ohio State  Troy Smith

    2007 Ohio State  Todd Boeckman

    2008  Oklahoma  Sam Bradford

    2009 Texas  Colt McCoy

    2010 Oregon  Darren Thomas

    2011 LSU  Jordan Jefferson

    2012 Notre Dame  Tommy Rees

    2013 Auburn  Nick Marshall

    2014  Oregon Marcus Mariota

    2015 Clemson DeShaun Watson

    2016  Alabama  Jalen Hurts

    2017 Georgia   Jake Fromm

    Very few of these had stellar Pro careers.   Vick being the best probably.  Mariota doing pretty good. Bradford...spotty.  McCoy....career backup really.  Watson may be good.

    Not sure if this group is any better or not than the QBs who won the title.

    Newton the class of them all.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @the-gipper said:

    A very fair statement.  The stars of these teams are the coaches.   Saban, Carroll, Urban Meyer,   Tressel, Stoops,  Les Miles,  etc.

    Don't forget Dabo Swinney of Clemson.

    Mike 

    @canton-mike said:

    Don't forget Dabo Swinney of Clemson.

    Mike 

    Yes, Check.

  • Bob806B Bob806

    @boo-fagley said:

    USC Carroll was a good HC.

    He's a total scumbag, but yeah he could coach. 

    While I've never cared for USC, when he bailed to Seattle is one of the most slimiest things in sports history.

    @bob806 said:

    He's a total scumbag, but yeah he could coach. 

    While I've never cared for USC, when he bailed to Seattle is one of the most slimiest things in sports history.

    Saban left LSU for the Dolphins and then Alabama.

    Meyer is always looking for his next job. If the Devil could win a National Championship he would have his choice of jobs.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Agree to a point, but remember Carroll left because of the sanctions imposed by the NCAA.

    Meyer will retire a Buckeye. 

    Karlis Missed
    mjp28M 1 Reply
  • B boo fagley

    @bob806 said:

    He's a total scumbag, but yeah he could coach. 

    While I've never cared for USC, when he bailed to Seattle is one of the most slimiest things in sports history.

    Saban left LSU for the Dolphins and then Alabama.

    Meyer is always looking for his next job. If the Devil could win a National Championship he would have his choice of jobs.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Saban left LSU for the Dolphins and then Alabama.

    Meyer is always looking for his next job. If the Devil could win a National Championship he would have his choice of jobs.

    Meyer was always looking for only one job:   the one he has now.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @boo-fagley said:

    Saban left LSU for the Dolphins and then Alabama.

    Meyer is always looking for his next job. If the Devil could win a National Championship he would have his choice of jobs.

    Meyer was always looking for only one job:   the one he has now.

    @the-gipper said:

    Meyer was always looking for only one job:   the one he has now.

    If the NFL came calling with the right team and money he would be gone.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Bob806B Bob806

    Agree to a point, but remember Carroll left because of the sanctions imposed by the NCAA.

    Meyer will retire a Buckeye. 

    @bob806 said:

    Agree to a point, but remember Carroll left because of the sanctions imposed by the NCAA.

    Meyer will retire a Buckeye. 

    A very successful winning coach and wealthy BUCKEYE.  😁

    Big time NCAA football....hey it's a money game.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
    👍
  • B boo fagley

    @the-gipper said:

    Meyer was always looking for only one job:   the one he has now.

    If the NFL came calling with the right team and money he would be gone.

    @boo-fagley said:

    If the NFL came calling with the right team and money he would be gone.

    I don't know about that.   The major colleges, I believe, actually pay their coaches more than the NFL does.  So...it would not be about the money.  It would be more about the challenge.   I think he feels he still has challenges ahead of him at OSU/college.  Unlike Saban. 

    This is the thing about Saban......he must either be so totally content at Alabama....or convinced that he is either too old.....or convinced that he would suffer defeat and humiliation at the NFL level....again...that he does not want to take another NFL job.    He certainly has nothing else whatsoever to prove at the college level.  He proved that with good coaching and the right mix of HGH that you can dominate the college game. Maybe it is that latter factor that keeps him where he is.

    T 1 Reply

  • The major schools and their assistant coaches are well paid now.

    http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @boo-fagley said:

    If the NFL came calling with the right team and money he would be gone.

    I don't know about that.   The major colleges, I believe, actually pay their coaches more than the NFL does.  So...it would not be about the money.  It would be more about the challenge.   I think he feels he still has challenges ahead of him at OSU/college.  Unlike Saban. 

    This is the thing about Saban......he must either be so totally content at Alabama....or convinced that he is either too old.....or convinced that he would suffer defeat and humiliation at the NFL level....again...that he does not want to take another NFL job.    He certainly has nothing else whatsoever to prove at the college level.  He proved that with good coaching and the right mix of HGH that you can dominate the college game. Maybe it is that latter factor that keeps him where he is.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know about that.   The major colleges, I believe, actually pay their coaches more than the NFL does.  So...it would not be about the money.  It would be more about the challenge.   I think he feels he still has challenges ahead of him at OSU/college.  Unlike Saban. 

    This is the thing about Saban......he must either be so totally content at Alabama....or convinced that he is either too old.....or convinced that he would suffer defeat and humiliation at the NFL level....again...that he does not want to take another NFL job.    He certainly has nothing else whatsoever to prove at the college level.  He proved that with good coaching and the right mix of HGH that you can dominate the college game. Maybe it is that latter factor that keeps him where he is.

    It also helps that 5***** players are tripping over one another just to start on his teams. They usually spend most of their first two years getting to Saban's standards. It's a reload every year. Always a top 5 class or better yearly.

    EDIT: QB was recently an exception to that when he switched to dual threat QBs after JM gave him so much trouble the two years he played them. Saban quit bitching about it and adapted it for his own use.

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