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  • Here's what Michael Lombardi said on NFL Network last night:

    Michael Lombardi said:

    Jeremy Jarmon, the defensive end/tackle from the University of Kentucky, is a very good football player. And I've talked to about four NFL teams in the past twenty-four hours: they all tell me he's going to get picked somewhere between the second and the fifth round.

    Now, understand that when you're in the supplemental draft, we're not in the same order that we were. They re-draft the lottery; it's almost back to the NBA system of a lottery-based pool. So everybody will have a pick, but it will not be in the correct order that it was [in April].

    But I suspect Jarmon's gonna get picked somewhere between the third or the fifth round, because he is a very good football player.

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    Here's what Michael Lombardi said on NFL Network last night:

    Michael Lombardi said:

    Jeremy Jarmon, the defensive end/tackle from the University of Kentucky, is a very good football player. And I've talked to about four NFL teams in the past twenty-four hours: they all tell me he's going to get picked somewhere between the second and the fifth round.

    Now, understand that when you're in the supplemental draft, we're not in the same order that we were. They re-draft the lottery; it's almost back to the NBA system of a lottery-based pool. So everybody will have a pick, but it will not be in the correct order that it was [in April].

    But I suspect Jarmon's gonna get picked somewhere between the third or the fifth round, because he is a very good football player.

    Aloysius said:

    Here's what Michael Lombardi said on NFL Network last night:

    Do teams know the order when they make the pick?? I would assume so.

    As you pointed out..we aren't all that set at DL when you take in to account where things might be next year...if we like the guy, I would send up a 2nd round pick and see how that stacks up....just not sure a 3rd would get him.

    As it stands jarmon would probably be a late 1st, early 2nd type player if he could play this year and was in next years regular draft.

    At worst we would be picking him about where he is valued...if we improve in the standings like I think we will, we gain some value.

    Again...that's if we viewed him as a guy who could work in to our system.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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    Aloysius said:

    Here's what Michael Lombardi said on NFL Network last night:

    Do teams know the order when they make the pick?? I would assume so.

    As you pointed out..we aren't all that set at DL when you take in to account where things might be next year...if we like the guy, I would send up a 2nd round pick and see how that stacks up....just not sure a 3rd would get him.

    As it stands jarmon would probably be a late 1st, early 2nd type player if he could play this year and was in next years regular draft.

    At worst we would be picking him about where he is valued...if we improve in the standings like I think we will, we gain some value.

    Again...that's if we viewed him as a guy who could work in to our system.

    @ballpeen said:

    Do teams know the order when they make the pick?? I would assume so.

    Yes, they do.

    @ballpeen said:

    As you pointed out..we aren't all that set at DL when you take in to account where things might be next year...if we like the guy, I would send up a 2nd round pick and see how that stacks up....just not sure a 3rd would get him.

    Sounds like the 3rd round may be where he ends up getting picked:

    Nolan Nawrocki said:

    Eight prospects have entered the supplemental draft to be held at 1 p.m. ET July 16, but only one — Kentucky's Jeremy Jarmon — figures to be drafted early.

    "I wish he were taller and more stout at the point," an NFL evaluator said, "but he is a big body that plays with some strength at the point. I'd be shocked if he got out of the third (round)."

    He is expected to fit best as a 4-3 base defensive end with upside potential in an aggressive 3-4 front such as that of the Steelers, Ravens, Jets or 49ers.

    Still, I wouldn't go any higher than a 4th. Though I'm a big fan of Jarmon's, I wouldn't want to risk giving up the opportunity to draft a d-lineman like Arthur Jones (ask mz the pussy.) or a safety like Major Wright (ask yourself). Jarmon could help us, but those two guys could help a lot more.

    My guess is that the Lions will pick up Jarmon in the 3rd or 4th round. They showed a lot of interest in Robert Ayers and have considered signing Kevin Carter, so they're clearly looking for an upgrade at LDE.

    Actually, a smaller Kevin Carter might be a good approximation of Jarmon's upside.

  • Here's one more take:

    Chris Steuber said:

    "I like Jarmon, but he's not a premier defensive end. He has some good qualities: high motor, good pass rushing skills, and is a solid tackler. He has to use his hands better and develop a larger repertoire of moves. He would have been a 3rd - 5th round pick if he entered the 2010 draft, and I think he will be selected in that range during the supplemental draft on Thursday."

  • @shepwrite said:

    I think we're really deep at DL now that Robaire is healthy... and they seem to fit Mangini's vision of 3-4 guys. I may be wrong, but I don't think we'll be all over this guy.

    Well Robaire and Coleman are both over 30 so we will need a DE, but I dont know about giving a 4th for Jarmon. There might be a guy like Andre Brown who slips to the 4th next year

    The road to .500...

  • Draft should be underway about now. Curious to see what happens.

  • Redskins select Jarmon in Supplemental draft

    By Nolan Nawrocki

    The third round of the Supplemental draft just concluded and the Washington Redskins were awarded Kentucky DE Jeremy Jarmon in the silent auction draft.

    Jarmon, who entered the draft after testing positive for an NCAA banned substance and subsequently was suspended for what would have been his senior season, received high marks for his character despite the mistake. He has ideal size and strength for a base end in a 4-3 defense.

  • @shepwrite said:

    I wouldn't consider us old at all on the D-line. Coleman's only 30, which is hardly a gray beard.

    That is getting pretty old in football.

    The road to .500...

  • We should be able to get 2-3 more solid years out of Kenyon. That's how long he's got left on his current contract; the salary numbers actually decline in the third year, as if to account for the age factor.

    But there's no question that we need to groom some guys behind Coleman. And if Corey Williams plays like he did last year, we'll probably draft a d-lineman early in next year's draft.

    These two guys appear to be the top candidates (both wear #93):

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    07/10 Supplemental Draft '09: Jarmon works out for scouts

    Eighteen teams were on hand in Lexington yesterday to watch Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon work out. The list included some high profile scouting directors and NFL personnel people including John Dorsey of the Green Bay Packers, Vinny Cerrato of the Washington Redskins and Rick Reiprish of the New Orleans Saints. Here's the lowdown on the workout.

    Jarmon measured a hair over 6'3'' at 6031 and 278 pounds. He ran his forty's in times which read between 4.76 seconds to 4.83 seconds. Jarmon completed 19 reps on the bench and posted a vertical jump of 31-inches. Sources have told us Jarmon looked good in position drills and was as athletic as his computer numbers would lead one to believe.

    He sat down with all the teams who attended the workout. Jarmon had private interviews with as handful of teams the night before (Wednesday) the workout and met with the rest on Thursday.

    More phone calls and interviews scheduled through the weekend.

    Jarmon’s UK career was cut short this spring when the NCAA ruled him ineligible for his senior season after testing positive for a banned substance. Jarmon is the most attractive name in next Thursday’s NFL Supplemental Draft and has been working out in Nashville for the past several weeks.

    National Scouting graded Jarmon as a fifth round pick in their May report, which represents their pre-season rankings. The belief is Jarmon could go as early as the fourth round next Thursday as teams feel he could've ended up as a top 75 pick in the '10 draft had he turned in a good senior season.

    19 reps is pretty disappointing, but it places him in between guys like Robert Ayers (18 reps) and Tyson Jackson (20 reps), who were recently drafted to play at least some 3-4 DE. Jarmon suffered from rotator cuff tendinitis earlier this spring, which may have affected his workout.

    The other workout numbers are solid. It's interesting that the Packers, a team transitioning to the 3-4, would send their director of college scouting to Jarmon's pro day. The last time I saw John Dorsey mentioned on TFY Draft was when he showed up at B.J. Raji's pro day.

    Aloysius said:

    19 reps is pretty disappointing, but it places him in between guys like Robert Ayers (18 reps) and Tyson Jackson (20 reps), who were recently drafted to play at least some 3-4 DE. Jarmon suffered from rotator cuff tendinitis earlier this spring, which may have affected his workout.

    The other workout numbers are solid. It's interesting that the Packers, a team transitioning to the 3-4, would send their director of college scouting to Jarmon's pro day. The last time I saw John Dorsey mentioned on TFY Draft was when he showed up at B.J. Raji's pro day.

    redskins got jamon third round pick

  • According to Adam Schefter, the Browns were not one of the five teams that put in a 4th round bid for Jarmon. Interestingly, Schefter has the Patriots listed as one of the five teams.

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    My understanding -- unconfirmed -- is the other teams to put in 4th-round claims for Jeremy Jarmon were Eagles, Bucs, Saints, Lions, Pats.
    Jul 16, 2009 0 0View on X

    The Pats didn't even send a scout to Jarmon's pro day, with the assumption being that the team didn't want to add to the 12 rookies it drafted this year. Apparently, that wasn't the case, with Belichick perhaps hiding his interest in order to keep other 3-4 teams away from Jarmon.

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