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  • I do like to read Pluto's stuff and look for the crux of his weekly articles.

    I was among a small group of media people talking to offensive line coach Bob Wylie last week. He is one of the few offensive assistants to survive the post-season purge by head coach Hue Jackson.

    Listening to Wylie, it's clear he isn't sold on any of the candidates. Neither is the front office. You can tell as they added another name to the list by signing Greg Robinson.......

    ........"Coleman is leading the charge (at left tackle)," said Wylie. "But we have a lot of bodies.".......

    ........8. The best case for the Browns would be Corbett or Coleman growing into the job. But it's way too soon to know. As Wylie said several times: "We haven't put the pads on yet." That's when the real blocking and tackling begins in summer training camp......

  • How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

  • How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

    @lbc-mike said:

    How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

    Wiley?   The magician?  ...........or Hue?

  • How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

    @lbc-mike said:

    How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

    It's hard to tell just yet Mike but he's the only offensive coach we retained. Interestingly enough his first gig as an offensive line coach in the NFL was with the Cleveland Browns from 1980-82 (38 years of experience coaching offensive lines exclusively).   It could just be a coincidence, but 1980 was the year Brian Sipe was the League MVP from his heroics leading the Kardiac Kids to multiple comeback victories (and throwing for over 4000 yards when that was unheard of especially from a QB that was almost 6'1").  It seems hard to imagine that taking place without a good offensive line. 

    He may sound like he has some screws loose but at least we didn't hire this Bob Wiley...  Why do I get the feeling Taco can't wait to tell us we're going to wish we did?

  • How to you guys feel about this crazy nutty coach?  I am not sold on him

    @lbc-mike said:

     I am not sold on him

    Not sold on what? Wylie's teaching tech's days ended 20 years ago. Starting from when Bob coached from pop warner on up the ranks. Bob's earned his stripes and John Dorsey played OL. I think Dorsey knows what he has in Wylie? These are grown butt men that show up at Nfl camps. Gms draft them on a graded scale & Bob only finds the right formations/schemes to have success with what's given. Bobs real work starts with what the defense is showing at pre-snap. Only left guessing at what will actually happen after the ball is snapped. This is where the Walrus Magician Wylie has been fairly successful. Wylie excels in reading game tape to what happens next on the defense. Bob can't be blamed for the talent given. Finding the guy that misses his assignment & not executing his assignment is Bob's job. Sometimes in a game against someone else's "will" ya just get beat..Coaching against it ain't easy. it's a great game the deeper ya look    

  • @lbc-mike said:

     I am not sold on him

    Not sold on what? Wylie's teaching tech's days ended 20 years ago. Starting from when Bob coached from pop warner on up the ranks. Bob's earned his stripes and John Dorsey played OL. I think Dorsey knows what he has in Wylie? These are grown butt men that show up at Nfl camps. Gms draft them on a graded scale & Bob only finds the right formations/schemes to have success with what's given. Bobs real work starts with what the defense is showing at pre-snap. Only left guessing at what will actually happen after the ball is snapped. This is where the Walrus Magician Wylie has been fairly successful. Wylie excels in reading game tape to what happens next on the defense. Bob can't be blamed for the talent given. Finding the guy that misses his assignment & not executing his assignment is Bob's job. Sometimes in a game against someone else's "will" ya just get beat..Coaching against it ain't easy. it's a great game the deeper ya look    

    @gumby73 said:

    Not sold on what? Wylie's teaching tech's days ended 20 years ago. Starting from when Bob coached from pop warner on up the ranks. Bob's earned his stripes and John Dorsey played OL. I think Dorsey knows what he has in Wylie? These are grown butt men that show up at Nfl camps. Gms draft them on a graded scale & Bob only finds the right formations/schemes to have success with what's given. Bobs real work starts with what the defense is showing at pre-snap. Only left guessing at what will actually happen after the ball is snapped. This is where the Walrus Magician Wylie has been fairly successful. Wylie excels in reading game tape to what happens next on the defense. Bob can't be blamed for the talent given. Finding the guy that misses his assignment & not executing his assignment is Bob's job. Sometimes in a game against someone else's "will" ya just get beat..Coaching against it ain't easy. it's a great game the deeper ya look    

    All good.... But Dorsey was a LB, No?

    Zombo

  • @flugel said:

    So the world according to Ghoolie doesn't put you at ease?  He's been informing us since 2007 that all we gotta do to upgrade Joe Thomas is go to a McDonalds Drive Thru and find the 1st obese 22 year old kid snacking between snacks and we're all set.  Any kid that weighs in at "1 at a time please" is the answer to all our prayers.

    When my wife and I would go to the local HS games the band would play at halftime and I'd tell her they needed to take about 5 of those tuba players and put 'em in front of the RB's if they wanted to win any games. Those kids were far bigger than any of our puny OL players at that time.?????

    @texasag1969 said:

     Those kids were far bigger than any of our puny OL players at that time.?????

    Greg Robinson should play 1 heck of a tuba ?..Can ya play LT at 332 pounds? Not from what G.Robinson gametape shows.Lions vs Giants Robinson was awful in pass pro but Wylie & Haley have got to be thinking Power Road Grader Running game.Robinson excels in it. From 9-13-2015 "the average G,T,C in the nfl is 6'5"-312lbs. (Due to hybrid speed edge rushers now in league maybe lower weight at tackle?) Of 159 players who have started at least 4 games as a OLman since the start of the 2014 season, only 23 weigh less than 300lbs.(Desmond Harrison 292, Hubbard 286) & 39 weigh at least 320 lbs." All fit here but G.Robinson at 332 pounds..At this size the tape shows Robinson bending his waist cause he can't move his feet quick enough in pass pro. But, In the run game, he's a balanced knee bender that can still roll his hips quick for a big man. Odd on tape but totally fixable imo. Robinson has to lose weight! Dorsey should have put a camp weight limit number on it & paid Greg a bonus$ say come in under 325bs.?  

  • @gumby73 said:

    Not sold on what? Wylie's teaching tech's days ended 20 years ago. Starting from when Bob coached from pop warner on up the ranks. Bob's earned his stripes and John Dorsey played OL. I think Dorsey knows what he has in Wylie? These are grown butt men that show up at Nfl camps. Gms draft them on a graded scale & Bob only finds the right formations/schemes to have success with what's given. Bobs real work starts with what the defense is showing at pre-snap. Only left guessing at what will actually happen after the ball is snapped. This is where the Walrus Magician Wylie has been fairly successful. Wylie excels in reading game tape to what happens next on the defense. Bob can't be blamed for the talent given. Finding the guy that misses his assignment & not executing his assignment is Bob's job. Sometimes in a game against someone else's "will" ya just get beat..Coaching against it ain't easy. it's a great game the deeper ya look    

    All good.... But Dorsey was a LB, No?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    All good.... But Dorsey was a LB, No?

    Zombo

    Yes, but my typing teacher(who was smokin fine) said to keep my fingers on the home keys so they need to move the L & O away from each other on the keyboard? 1st drink of the day..wait,it'll get better

  • Zombo said:

    All good.... But Dorsey was a LB, No?

    Zombo

    Yes, but my typing teacher(who was smokin fine) said to keep my fingers on the home keys so they need to move the L & O away from each other on the keyboard? 1st drink of the day..wait,it'll get better

    @gumby73 said:

    Yes, but my typing teacher(who was smokin fine) said to keep my fingers on the home keys so they need to move the L & O away from each other on the keyboard? 1st drink of the day..wait,it'll get better

    Mine told me to keep my fingers on the F and the K keys. ?

  • @gumby73 said:

    Yes, but my typing teacher(who was smokin fine) said to keep my fingers on the home keys so they need to move the L & O away from each other on the keyboard? 1st drink of the day..wait,it'll get better

    Mine told me to keep my fingers on the F and the K keys. ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Mine told me to keep my fingers on the F and the K keys. ?

    asdf jkl;

    My last course in high school, about all I took from it......unfortunately, had to type like crazy in college!