Cory Coleman Traded
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How long before Dez is in the house?
How long before Dez is in the house?
Dez ain't coming.. it would upset the good vibes the lockeroom has presently
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Pissing and moaning for a dude that has proven he can't stay on the field - and when he's lucky enough to be on the field, is as far away from what you'd expect from a 1st round draft pick as you can get. Just another 1st round bust and this one has Sashi's name attached to him.
Keep on flushing the turds responsible for 1-31.
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Another new regime dumping players from the old one. The cycle continues ?
Another new regime dumping players from the old one. The cycle continues ?
This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere. About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England. And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.
Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
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Another new regime dumping players from the old one. The cycle continues ?
This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere. About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England. And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.
Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Bernie.............. Too soon?
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I think Ratley made the team with that long pass catch from Mayfield last week.
Coleman was traded the moment he dropped the wide open sideline pass from the Kaiser. It was a matter of when, not if.
I think Ratley made the team with that long pass catch from Mayfield last week.
Coleman was traded the moment he dropped the wide open sideline pass from the Kaiser. It was a matter of when, not if.
Well...I DO think that it may have been the performance of our rookie WRs that led the Browns brass to believe that Coleman was expendable. And it really demonstrates to me that they think that Josh Gordon WILL be around and performing.
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Have any of these guys gone on to do anything anywhere? And lets face it, these guys represent the failures of like 3-4 GMs, not just one.
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Id have kept him for kick returns alone over than that pathetic pick we got back
Id have kept him for kick returns alone over than that pathetic pick we got back
I don't recall Coleman ever doing anything in the return game for us. Peppers, Dayes, Duke were the punt and kick returners.
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I heard he pissed off Haley that he didn't fight hard enough for the ball
I have NO doubt that Haley had a big say in letting him go. I mean, they had what? 7-8 WRs...or more vying for roster spots: Gordon, Landry, Higgins, Janis, Ratley, Calloway...and Coleman, plus some guys that may to us seem like scrubs: CJ Board, Evan Berry, Derrick Willies, Scott Demarie, Blake Jackson....I think the OC must have seen more out of these guys than he did from Coleman.
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Paul Warfield
I am thinking more along the lines of this century. (plus, I do not think the Browns thought that Warfield was unproductive....I think they were just looking to get what they thought was a franchise QB...and they had to give up a huge prize to get that)
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Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Dion Lewis did OK in New England as you said, Taylor Gabriel did OK for a season ...
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Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Dion Lewis did OK in New England as you said, Taylor Gabriel did OK for a season ...
Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Dion Lewis did OK in New England as you said, Taylor Gabriel did OK for a season ...
Travis Benjamin has been ok too I believe. 4 TD's per season so far with the Chargers. I never understood why we let him go with just short of 1000 yds and 5 TD his last year with us.
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Now who was the person on here who thought it was stupid when I suggested right after last season ended that Coleman's days with the Browns were probably numbered? ?
The lack of success of Browns first-rounders since '99 is staggering. Absolutely staggering. This team in the last few regimes has moved around and accumulated so many first-rounders, with virtually nothing to show for it.
To put that in a recent perspective, with this trade not single first round pick from 2012-2016 is still on the roster. That's with the Browns drafting the 2nd most 1st round picks in the time frame.
Pathetic to say the least.
To put that in a recent perspective, with this trade not single first round pick from 2012-2016 is still on the roster. That's with the Browns drafting the 2nd most 1st round picks in the time frame.
Pathetic to say the least.
CLEVELAND BROWNS FOOTBALL is this a great franchise or what!
Well I will say however that it at least appears that the current brain trust is making some moves in the right direction.
GO BROWNS! We love ya'.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?
Dion Lewis did OK in New England as you said, Taylor Gabriel did OK for a season ...
Travis Benjamin has been ok too I believe. 4 TD's per season so far with the Chargers. I never understood why we let him go with just short of 1000 yds and 5 TD his last year with us.
Travis Benjamin has been ok too I believe. 4 TD's per season so far with the Chargers. I never understood why we let him go with just short of 1000 yds and 5 TD his last year with us.
I think both Benjamin...and Taylor Gabriel left here as a result of being free agents....so I don't know if technically you can say that the Browns dumped them. I mean, TJ Ward went on to play with the Super Bowl winning Broncos.
So, I don't think the Browns gave up on those guys. They may in fact have wanted to keep them all.....but did not want to pay the freight that other teams were willing to do so...or, they just did not want to continue to play here...because of the losing or other factors.
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To put that in a recent perspective, with this trade not single first round pick from 2012-2016 is still on the roster. That's with the Browns drafting the 2nd most 1st round picks in the time frame.
Pathetic to say the least.
CLEVELAND BROWNS FOOTBALL is this a great franchise or what!
Well I will say however that it at least appears that the current brain trust is making some moves in the right direction.
GO BROWNS! We love ya'.
CLEVELAND BROWNS FOOTBALL is this a great franchise or what!
Well I will say however that it at least appears that the current brain trust is making some moves in the right direction.
GO BROWNS! We love ya'.
The concern is the fact that some of the previous brain trusts did the same thing......to no avail. So let's just hope that Dorsey isn't just another in a line of the same failures we have had here in terms of personell selectors.
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Ahhh yes, good ole Corey(I remember Braylon) Coleman. Whatever happened to that guy?
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I do NOT think we are signing Dez. I DO think Gordon will be starting game 1. I think Coleman was expendable, Sashi blew that draft, let's deal with it and enjoy what Dorsey is putting together.
Our WRs will be formidable.
Gordon in the X, Landry in the slot, Callaway is the third reciever, should have a great rookie year, because you have to cover those other two.
Then I've got Hollywood Higgins and Jeff Janis and Bo Ratley. Higgins is having a great camp, Ratley looking like a good pick in the 6th, Janis is special teams ace and sneaky fast reliable option.
CJ Board having a good camp? The more the merrier.
Once Callaway showed he can do everything Coleman can do (and more on ST) Coleman was the odd man out.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I do NOT think we are signing Dez. I DO think Gordon will be starting game 1. I think Coleman was expendable, Sashi blew that draft, let's deal with it and enjoy what Dorsey is putting together.
Our WRs will be formidable.
Gordon in the X, Landry in the slot, Callaway is the third reciever, should have a great rookie year, because you have to cover those other two.
Then I've got Hollywood Higgins and Jeff Janis and Bo Ratley. Higgins is having a great camp, Ratley looking like a good pick in the 6th, Janis is special teams ace and sneaky fast reliable option.
CJ Board having a good camp? The more the merrier.
Once Callaway showed he can do everything Coleman can do (and more on ST) Coleman was the odd man out.
Zombo
Yeah Zombo... I don't think so.
Landry? Check. Excellent slot receiver. Fits Tyrod's game like a glove.
Gordon? We don't even know if he'll play.
Calloway? May be okay.
Hollywood? Looked good in Camp so far? Lol! Yeah he's been great alright.
Others? Who knows? Unlikely if we're being honest.
I want to be optimistic, but part of that was hoping that Coleman could actually take a step forward as a fourth option. Still thought there was some potential there.
Definitely would feel much better with a proven pass-catcher added to the group.
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Zombo said:
I do NOT think we are signing Dez. I DO think Gordon will be starting game 1. I think Coleman was expendable, Sashi blew that draft, let's deal with it and enjoy what Dorsey is putting together.
Our WRs will be formidable.
Gordon in the X, Landry in the slot, Callaway is the third reciever, should have a great rookie year, because you have to cover those other two.
Then I've got Hollywood Higgins and Jeff Janis and Bo Ratley. Higgins is having a great camp, Ratley looking like a good pick in the 6th, Janis is special teams ace and sneaky fast reliable option.
CJ Board having a good camp? The more the merrier.
Once Callaway showed he can do everything Coleman can do (and more on ST) Coleman was the odd man out.
Zombo
Yeah Zombo... I don't think so.
Landry? Check. Excellent slot receiver. Fits Tyrod's game like a glove.
Gordon? We don't even know if he'll play.
Calloway? May be okay.
Hollywood? Looked good in Camp so far? Lol! Yeah he's been great alright.
Others? Who knows? Unlikely if we're being honest.
I want to be optimistic, but part of that was hoping that Coleman could actually take a step forward as a fourth option. Still thought there was some potential there.
Definitely would feel much better with a proven pass-catcher added to the group.
Yeah Zombo... I don't think so.
Landry? Check. Excellent slot receiver. Fits Tyrod's game like a glove.
Gordon? We don't even know if he'll play.
Calloway? May be okay.
Hollywood? Looked good in Camp so far? Lol! Yeah he's been great alright.
Others? Who knows? Unlikely if we're being honest.
I want to be optimistic, but part of that was hoping that Coleman could actually take a step forward as a fourth option. Still thought there was some potential there.
Definitely would feel much better with a proven pass-catcher added to the group.
Gordon will be back. Higgins can do what Coleman could do as a fourth. Calloway will do better than Coleman. I feel zero disappointment today.
Z
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I absolutely hate this. I said months ago, as did many of us, that trading Corey doesn't make sense. Why trade a 1st round pick who only played two years with a broken hand AND never got to play with a real qb? You're never going to get anything close to comparable value! What did we get? A 5th round pick? Who CARES ABOUT A 5TH ROUND PICK? How often do those guys make a difference?! So stupid.
I absolutely hate this. I said months ago, as did many of us, that trading Corey doesn't make sense. Why trade a 1st round pick who only played two years with a broken hand AND never got to play with a real qb? You're never going to get anything close to comparable value! What did we get? A 5th round pick? Who CARES ABOUT A 5TH ROUND PICK? How often do those guys make a difference?! So stupid.
That's been the Browns MO for a long time. Draft high, give away low. A seventh in the 2020 draft is less than a bag of footballs. If that's all we were able to get for Coleman- stop bemoaning the fact that he's gone, it should tell you what the rest of the league's talent evaluation of him was. What did we get for super studs Johnny Football and bad attitude Justin Gilbert? Johnny is throwing interceptions in Canada, and Gilbert is out of football. Great talent evaluation there.
To put that in a recent perspective, with this trade not single first round pick from 2012-2016 is still on the roster. That's with the Browns drafting the 2nd most 1st round picks in the time frame.
Pathetic to say the least.
Not only that- there was a just a segment on ESPN detailing our Browns woes. Cleveland is the only team in the NFL that can "proudly" say we don't have a single first round pick on our roster from that time frame.
They alluded there were locker room issues, besides lack of production with Corey. Also said- he may have track speed, but his separation from defenders was below average, add in the dropsies- understandable Dorsey sent him packing. Pointed out the guys responsible for that atrocious record of drafting aren't in the organization anymore. Dorsey is trying to salvage what he can out of bad decisions made by Sashi. Schefter pointed out Brown trading down & drafting Coleman instead of taking Carson Wentz may go down as one of the biggest draft day blunders in recent history. Then, pending on how Ward turns out at CB, he doubled down and didn't take Deshawn Watson.
PS- their "sources" are saying Gondon is coming back, perhaps soon.
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