Honest thoughts
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Baker is pedestrian.
That pedestrian had the best first preseason game at QB that we've seen since the team returned. Doesn't mean he'll be great.....but it was a good sign.
...the Giants got the running back. He might end up being good.....but WE needed the QB...and not just ANY QB...the best one. Hopefully, we DID pick the best one.
That pedestrian had the best first preseason game at QB that we've seen since the team returned. Doesn't mean he'll be great.....but it was a good sign.
...the Giants got the running back. He might end up being good.....but WE needed the QB...and not just ANY QB...the best one. Hopefully, we DID pick the best one.
Darnold and mayfield had the best games by far. I'd say Jackson was #3, Allen #4, and the rest were kinda meh
I know it's just one game, but baker looked every bit as good as he did at OU.
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I wonder how long Pog has been a writer for the NY Post?
Best player in the draft. Baker is pedestrian. To Hoorta................ yeah, Jim Brown ran for a touchdown every play. Idiot
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At least Pfoulie's posts are shorter now...
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Cardinals Oline is going to get Rosen killed.
I was watching that game last nite as well. How 'bout those shotgun snaps? Geesh...
His pocket awareness saved him a couple times. And every time he was given a decent snap, he seemed to cash it... problem was there weren't too many of them.
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Cardinals Oline is going to get Rosen killed.
I was watching that game last nite as well. How 'bout those shotgun snaps? Geesh...
His pocket awareness saved him a couple times. And every time he was given a decent snap, he seemed to cash it... problem was there weren't too many of them.
I was watching that game last nite as well. How 'bout those shotgun snaps? Geesh...
His pocket awareness saved him a couple times. And every time he was given a decent snap, he seemed to cash it... problem was there weren't too many of them.
Honest to God, I can think of two of my former team mates that played Center who could snap better live action NFL... right this moment. That might be some of the worst play I've seen from an interior lineman in a long time. That includes Cam Erving.
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Mayfield, Darnold looked good week 1.. Rosen, Allen, and Jackson did not.
Granted, I think Ohio State would at this point be better than what the Cards backups did vs Chargers backups..
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I was watching that game last nite as well. How 'bout those shotgun snaps? Geesh...
His pocket awareness saved him a couple times. And every time he was given a decent snap, he seemed to cash it... problem was there weren't too many of them.
Honest to God, I can think of two of my former team mates that played Center who could snap better live action NFL... right this moment. That might be some of the worst play I've seen from an interior lineman in a long time. That includes Cam Erving.
Honest to God, I can think of two of my former team mates that played Center who could snap better live action NFL... right this moment. That might be some of the worst play I've seen from an interior lineman in a long time. That includes Cam Erving.
Seriously Tia? I didn't see that game. Camshaft was freaking stinko beyond belief. IIRC he had that 6' over the qbs head snap for an uncontested safety .
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Rough supporting cast, but it'll get better with Fitz and Johnson out there
Still made some nice throws. Baker just looks more in command of the team, more composed. Kept plays alive under big pressure. No real dangerous mistakes. Rosen threw a pick 6, and that's my biggest knock on him. He just seems to have a few throws a game like wtf were you thinking? But he definitely puts up big numbers
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Not sure if this was posted elsewhere breaking down Baker's Preseason game.
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Baker is pedestrian.
That pedestrian had the best first preseason game at QB that we've seen since the team returned. Doesn't mean he'll be great.....but it was a good sign.
...the Giants got the running back. He might end up being good.....but WE needed the QB...and not just ANY QB...the best one. Hopefully, we DID pick the best one.
That pedestrian had the best first preseason game at QB that we've seen since the team returned. Doesn't mean he'll be great.....but it was a good sign.
...the Giants got the running back. He might end up being good.....but WE needed the QB...and not just ANY QB...the best one. Hopefully, we DID pick the best one.
Actually, Eric Zier had a better first game showing. NIce try.
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That pedestrian had the best first preseason game at QB that we've seen since the team returned. Doesn't mean he'll be great.....but it was a good sign.
...the Giants got the running back. He might end up being good.....but WE needed the QB...and not just ANY QB...the best one. Hopefully, we DID pick the best one.
Actually, Eric Zier had a better first game showing. NIce try.
Actually, Eric Zier had a better first game showing. NIce try.
huh? Eric Zeier was on the team in 1995. That's prior to the team's return in '99.......and I bet you cannot dig up the stats of his first preseason game for the Browns.
...and that's not the point. The point is Mayfield looked quite composed. He looked like a starting QB. I'm certain he wouldn't look that good playing with the ones.....but he doesn't practice with them.
I don't know how good he will or won't be going forward......but he didn't give any indication that he's a bum in game #1.
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Mayfield, Darnold looked good week 1.. Rosen, Allen, and Jackson did not.
Granted, I think Ohio State would at this point be better than what the Cards backups did vs Chargers backups..
Mayfield, Darnold looked good week 1.. Rosen, Allen, and Jackson did not.
Granted, I think Ohio State would at this point be better than what the Cards backups did vs Chargers backups..
Rough supporting cast, but it'll get better with Fitz and Johnson out there
Still made some nice throws. Baker just looks more in command of the team, more composed. Kept plays alive under big pressure. No real dangerous mistakes. Rosen threw a pick 6, and that's my biggest knock on him. He just seems to have a few throws a game like wtf were you thinking? But he definitely puts up big numbers
Haven't seen Darnold or Jackson's debuts, but the comments on the others are spot on.
- Rosen was late on square outs all nite... even when he occasionally got a good snap. He was lucky to not have two pick-6's.
- Allen was Allen... one-third "wow!", one-third "huh? and one-third "sheesh". The latter included a Weedon-esque, backhanded, jump ball.
Our guy looked the best of the three I saw... and not by a little.
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Hue & Dorsey reveil a "A Plan" to Tom Pelissero https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000947845/article/baker-mayfield-redshirting-hue-jackson-john-dorsey-stand-pat who's got that red panic button?
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another thing I liked about Mayfield NO timeouts at the los also NO issue's with the time clock,,,,now this could also pertain to Haley calling the play's in and not hue wondering if we should call a draw play on 3rd and 12 and then deciding to throw a fly route to colman UH OH hue the play clock just ran out
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Rosen did some good things too, especially behind a porous line. But the Chargers threw quite a bit of cover 1 and 3 at him. But when they didn't, the DB's took advantage. Josh expected one thing, mixed them up, the not-6 being an example. For tape...
@ 00:20 Looks like you're typical C3 but with a bail. Josh makes the most of a bad snap, slides very efficiently in the pocket sensing pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. Waits for the TE to uncover and delivers a ball only his man can catch. That's good stuff.
@ 00:47 This is the not so good. You have a 5 man front, the MIKE charges hard B/C gap. It's a max pro, 3 man pattern, 7 step drop the the whole way . Josh will learn quickly - when he plants that back foot... the ball has to be gone. Does a heads up thing spiking it at the inline TE, but that could have been ugly.
@ 1:26 The not-6. 2x2 and Josh checks into the hitch the without even thinking elsewhere. Never bothered to double check the safeties - they won't lie to you. Unless you're dealing with like, Ed Shmucking Reed. For those watching at home, that is a smash concept. Hitch outside, flag inside. Read corner, throw corner. However against those soft C2 looks with athletic DB's, you have to possess elite accuracy and timing. It's a C2 look with from a 4-3 stack except that WILL backer is Desmond King. This is where, as a rookie, you can be overwhelmed. The little things come back to bite you in the butt. Sure, the defender has inside leverage, but he has better wheels than your "traditional" WILL backer. Desmond sees the back stay in to protect and has a great feel for the route combination. Rookie being a rookie.
@ 2:55 is good Sheet though.
Chargers show a weakside boundary pressure, end up backing out of it and bringing the slot CB from the field. They also flipped the safeties post snap, showing a robber/rat to one side, who ends up rotating deep center while the man he's replacing picks up the #2 going vertical. Josh sees this at 2:57, holds the safety and knows exactly where he is going then delivers a great backshoulder buzz. Take note, THAT is an NFL caliber read and throw.
Meanwhile, as much as I enjoyed Bakers debut, he had a couple reads and not throws that would most likely end up being regular season sacks. Off the top of the dome I remember the 4th down play where he had the slant/flat combo, saw it and failed to pull the trigger, came back to the far side slant and couldn't see it. My point being, let's pump the brakes about any QB so far. Even Allen who I liked to clown on so much. Kid has a cannon for an arm though, never a doubt about that.
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While I'm at it, for a local Chiefs fan that claims their 2018 offense will be of historic nickname levels....
Patrick's issue is command of his own offense, digesting route combinations apart from the obvious, seeing them in his mind and applying them to the defense presented. He missed several reads in just this short clip alone.
The KC offense this year will be predicated on Hunt churning out yardage, Kelce being damn near illegal to cover and Tyreek having freakish YAC ability. But don't be surprised if you see another offensive slowdown mid season like you did last year with this squad. Mahomes (to date) isn't as efficient as Smith is.
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