hue jackson
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that ward tackle looked textbook. Thats how u tackle a nan twice ur size thats looking to lower the boom on u.....u get lower than him and take him out at the thigh/knee area. What exactly did williams have an issue with? maybe i understand now where hue was coming from
What exactly did williams have an issue with? maybe i understand now where hue was coming from
check the replay again..from Williams presser, he wants the legs chopped out..Ward's low, than worms his pads & head up, flexing back the wrong way after contact
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You guys just won't listen, will you? WTF is your malfunction?
ASSISTANT COACHES ARE COFFEE FETCHERS...................... COFFEE FETCHERS..............................................................
Greg Williams is a dickhead. Who cares.
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What exactly did williams have an issue with? maybe i understand now where hue was coming from
check the replay again..from Williams presser, he wants the legs chopped out..Ward's low, than worms his pads & head up, flexing back the wrong way after contact
check the replay again..from Williams presser, he wants the legs chopped out..Ward's low, than worms his pads & head up, flexing back the wrong way after contact
the freakin gif of the tackle has disappeared now...but if I remember it right, he was tracking the dudes legs in mid tackle. I mean it's just a fluke thing...if he didn't twist himself to track the dudes legs, he misses the tackle. Maybe I need to see more angles. Browns been tackling so clean tho. That's on Williams for sure. He prob doesn't need to blow up a rookie like that who actually dove his sht in. Lot's of secondary players fag out for the ankles and dudes just hurdle them. So I give Ward some credit even if maybe his form wasn't absolutely perfect.
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When you hire Gregg Williams. You get all of Gregg Williams. Deal with it Hue wussy..
Hue runs the team. He owns Greg WIlliams. He doesn't need Greg Williams, and if he decides to get rid of him, WIlliams is gone. Williams is a coffee fetcher and he is Hue's biitch. Make no mistake.
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just saw part of a interview with him where he said coach Williams should not have gone public about the way ward got hurt
this? https://deadspin.com/hue-jackson-doesnt-sound-real-happy-with-his-loudmouthe-1828640271
this? https://deadspin.com/hue-jackson-doesnt-sound-real-happy-with-his-loudmouthe-1828640271
open than click on first underline sentence..
the freakin gif of the tackle has disappeared now...but if I remember it right, he was tracking the dudes legs in mid tackle. I mean it's just a fluke thing...if he didn't twist himself to track the dudes legs, he misses the tackle. Maybe I need to see more angles. Browns been tackling so clean tho. That's on Williams for sure. He prob doesn't need to blow up a rookie like that who actually dove his sht in. Lot's of secondary players fag out for the ankles and dudes just hurdle them. So I give Ward some credit even if maybe his form wasn't absolutely perfect.
see #20 trailing the play..BBC..there's a reason Williams keeps this kid..BBC accepted Williams coaching than bit Odel's ankle off
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Hue runs the team. He owns Greg WIlliams. He doesn't need Greg Williams, and if he decides to get rid of him, WIlliams is gone. Williams is a coffee fetcher and he is Hue's biitch. Make no mistake.
go play in traffic?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
this? https://deadspin.com/hue-jackson-doesnt-sound-real-happy-with-his-loudmouthe-1828640271
open than click on first underline sentence..
the freakin gif of the tackle has disappeared now...but if I remember it right, he was tracking the dudes legs in mid tackle. I mean it's just a fluke thing...if he didn't twist himself to track the dudes legs, he misses the tackle. Maybe I need to see more angles. Browns been tackling so clean tho. That's on Williams for sure. He prob doesn't need to blow up a rookie like that who actually dove his sht in. Lot's of secondary players fag out for the ankles and dudes just hurdle them. So I give Ward some credit even if maybe his form wasn't absolutely perfect.
see #20 trailing the play..BBC..there's a reason Williams keeps this kid..BBC accepted Williams coaching than bit Odel's ankle off
open than click on first underline sentence..
see #20 trailing the play..BBC..there's a reason Williams keeps this kid..BBC accepted Williams coaching than bit Odel's ankle off
yeah that's textbook bro. Kept his head up too, tracked his legs. 99 out of 100 times that tackle doesn't hurt the tackler. It's just the fluke way he twisted that's all. I wonder if this is just some hard knocks drama they were told to do in order to stir up even more viewership.
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open than click on first underline sentence..
see #20 trailing the play..BBC..there's a reason Williams keeps this kid..BBC accepted Williams coaching than bit Odel's ankle off
yeah that's textbook bro. Kept his head up too, tracked his legs. 99 out of 100 times that tackle doesn't hurt the tackler. It's just the fluke way he twisted that's all. I wonder if this is just some hard knocks drama they were told to do in order to stir up even more viewership.
It's just the fluke way he twisted that's all. I wonder if this is just some hard knocks drama they were told to do in order to stir up even more viewership.
this whole story is media driven by twisting of words..after hard knocks, great we get more..see ya
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You guys just won't listen, will you? WTF is your malfunction?
ASSISTANT COACHES ARE COFFEE FETCHERS...................... COFFEE FETCHERS..............................................................
Greg Williams is a dickhead. Who cares.
You guys just won't listen, will you? WTF is your malfunction?
ASSISTANT COACHES ARE COFFEE FETCHERS...................... COFFEE FETCHERS..............................................................
Greg Williams is a dickhead. Who cares.
I think Mr. 1-31 (I think you just said he blows in another thread) should be listening to his coffee fetchers. For the record <again> both Williams and Haley have better records as Head Coaches than Huey.
Jackson keeps it up- he's going to be the one sitting on the couch having coffee and doughnuts, watching Haley or Williams run the team. Only reason he's still the head coach is Jimmy & Dee knew if they fired Hue after racking up the worst two season record in the history of the NFL- they might find a D III college coach willing to take the job for a year. There wouldn't have been a top coaching candidate worth a damn willing to take over if they knew they were going to get fired after a year or two. I'm not sure how many wins it will take for Hue to keep his job, but I damn guarantee you it's going to have to be way more than a couple.
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Zombo said:
Hues right ... Assistant coaches shouldn't be discussing injuries.
Z
imo, the injury info was already out in media? no? ..all i get is Hue power tripping a)hue trumped Wylie to Z on moving Joel. Hue told media than "you all ask my assistants far too many questions". b) Hue questions Denzel & Randall on practice field," are we listening" c) RB coach & Haley get Hue trabbled next, questioning toughness/absent from field..d) now it's Greggs turn..Gregg never called Denzel stupid, but yes he called out Denzel for stupid tackling techniques..sounds to me denzel does not accept coaching to well & Williams knows it.. Hues going down swinging with "this is my team" or we might need a marsh "mellow" campfire at Hue's place after lions game..
imo, the injury info was already out in media? no? ..all i get is Hue power tripping a)hue trumped Wylie to Z on moving Joel. Hue told media than "you all ask my assistants far too many questions". b) Hue questions Denzel & Randall on practice field," are we listening" c) RB coach & Haley get Hue trabbled next, questioning toughness/absent from field..d) now it's Greggs turn..Gregg never called Denzel stupid, but yes he called out Denzel for stupid tackling techniques..sounds to me denzel does not accept coaching to well & Williams knows it.. Hues going down swinging with "this is my team" or we might need a marsh "mellow" campfire at Hue's place after lions game..
Well, it is Hue's fucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
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You guys just won't listen, will you? WTF is your malfunction?
ASSISTANT COACHES ARE COFFEE FETCHERS...................... COFFEE FETCHERS..............................................................
Greg Williams is a dickhead. Who cares.
I think Mr. 1-31 (I think you just said he blows in another thread) should be listening to his coffee fetchers. For the record <again> both Williams and Haley have better records as Head Coaches than Huey.
Jackson keeps it up- he's going to be the one sitting on the couch having coffee and doughnuts, watching Haley or Williams run the team. Only reason he's still the head coach is Jimmy & Dee knew if they fired Hue after racking up the worst two season record in the history of the NFL- they might find a D III college coach willing to take the job for a year. There wouldn't have been a top coaching candidate worth a damn willing to take over if they knew they were going to get fired after a year or two. I'm not sure how many wins it will take for Hue to keep his job, but I damn guarantee you it's going to have to be way more than a couple.
I think Mr. 1-31 (I think you just said he blows in another thread) should be listening to his coffee fetchers. For the record <again> both Williams and Haley have better records as Head Coaches than Huey.
Jackson keeps it up- he's going to be the one sitting on the couch having coffee and doughnuts, watching Haley or Williams run the team. Only reason he's still the head coach is Jimmy & Dee knew if they fired Hue after racking up the worst two season record in the history of the NFL- they might find a D III college coach willing to take the job for a year. There wouldn't have been a top coaching candidate worth a damn willing to take over if they knew they were going to get fired after a year or two. I'm not sure how many wins it will take for Hue to keep his job, but I damn guarantee you it's going to have to be way more than a couple.
Larry,
if YOU owned the team then I could understand listening to you. You have always had this fantasy bullschidt belief that The HC, OC, and DC are all in the same boat, That the owner has not yet made up his mind and he has hired and OC and DC, so he can sit back and watch who among the three he is going to eventually let run his team.
I was the very first to guarantee that Hue Jackson was a complete failure. I haven't budged from that, but THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
Haslam is not going to fire Hue jackson. He WILL allow Jackson to fire Williams and Dinky-Dump. Dude, IF Hue was not IN with the Haslams, 1 -15 would have surely got him fired. 0- 16? 1 - 31? And you think 0 - 4 will get him fired? LMAO. Dude, Haslam's wife tells Jimmy what to do. SHe loves the black cause, she isn't going to let Hue go. Hue has already shown public indifference with his OC and DC. These conflicts you see, are moments of truth. When the team again blows, Hue will point to these moments when his coordinators were bucking his system.
Coordinators are coffee fetchers.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
imo, the injury info was already out in media? no? ..all i get is Hue power tripping a)hue trumped Wylie to Z on moving Joel. Hue told media than "you all ask my assistants far too many questions". b) Hue questions Denzel & Randall on practice field," are we listening" c) RB coach & Haley get Hue trabbled next, questioning toughness/absent from field..d) now it's Greggs turn..Gregg never called Denzel stupid, but yes he called out Denzel for stupid tackling techniques..sounds to me denzel does not accept coaching to well & Williams knows it.. Hues going down swinging with "this is my team" or we might need a marsh "mellow" campfire at Hue's place after lions game..
Well, it is Hue's fucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, it is Hue's Shmucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
Unbelievable, you are correct about something. Hoorta and Flugel believe that the Head Coach Answers to the coffee fetchers.
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I think Mr. 1-31 (I think you just said he blows in another thread) should be listening to his coffee fetchers. For the record <again> both Williams and Haley have better records as Head Coaches than Huey.
Jackson keeps it up- he's going to be the one sitting on the couch having coffee and doughnuts, watching Haley or Williams run the team. Only reason he's still the head coach is Jimmy & Dee knew if they fired Hue after racking up the worst two season record in the history of the NFL- they might find a D III college coach willing to take the job for a year. There wouldn't have been a top coaching candidate worth a damn willing to take over if they knew they were going to get fired after a year or two. I'm not sure how many wins it will take for Hue to keep his job, but I damn guarantee you it's going to have to be way more than a couple.
Larry,
if YOU owned the team then I could understand listening to you. You have always had this fantasy bullschidt belief that The HC, OC, and DC are all in the same boat, That the owner has not yet made up his mind and he has hired and OC and DC, so he can sit back and watch who among the three he is going to eventually let run his team.
I was the very first to guarantee that Hue Jackson was a complete failure. I haven't budged from that, but THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
Haslam is not going to fire Hue jackson. He WILL allow Jackson to fire Williams and Dinky-Dump. Dude, IF Hue was not IN with the Haslams, 1 -15 would have surely got him fired. 0- 16? 1 - 31? And you think 0 - 4 will get him fired? LMAO. Dude, Haslam's wife tells Jimmy what to do. SHe loves the black cause, she isn't going to let Hue go. Hue has already shown public indifference with his OC and DC. These conflicts you see, are moments of truth. When the team again blows, Hue will point to these moments when his coordinators were bucking his system.
Coordinators are coffee fetchers.
Larry,
if YOU owned the team then I could understand listening to you. You have always had this fantasy bullschidt belief that The HC, OC, and DC are all in the same boat, That the owner has not yet made up his mind and he has hired and OC and DC, so he can sit back and watch who among the three he is going to eventually let run his team.
I was the very first to guarantee that Hue Jackson was a complete failure. I haven't budged from that, but THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
Haslam is not going to fire Hue jackson. He WILL allow Jackson to fire Williams and Dinky-Dump. Dude, IF Hue was not IN with the Haslams, 1 -15 would have surely got him fired. 0- 16? 1 - 31? And you think 0 - 4 will get him fired? LMAO. Dude, Haslam's wife tells Jimmy what to do. SHe loves the black cause, she isn't going to let Hue go. Hue has already shown public indifference with his OC and DC. These conflicts you see, are moments of truth. When the team again blows, Hue will point to these moments when his coordinators were bucking his system.
Coordinators are coffee fetchers.
Haslam sure as hell will fire Jackson if his record this year is lousy enough, only question would be when. I won't posit how many wins it will take for Hue to save his job, but the over\under is probably 6. I'm not buying your fantasy that somehow Hue has the Haslams hypnotized. You can only pass the buck and blame others for your failures for so long. Hue is out of mulligans- and he damn well knows it.
When Hue was hired in 2016, he brought in his old pals Al Saunders, Pep Hamilton, and Ray Horton. His choice of assistants (BTW, every one of that staff is gone) was about as good as some of his player decisions like RG III, Kaiser Wilhelm, and trying to trade for McCarron.
If you think Hue was solely responsible for hiring Williams and Haley- you've been smoking something. They were hired primarily if\when Hue screws up again there's an easy out to promote a quality interim coach.
Finally- Hue firing one of his coordinators (incidentally, Haley is more fire proof than Hue this year) to save his sorry a-s-s if things go south would be the classic cut off your nose to spite your face, because it won't work, and Hue will be gone regardless.
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I don't look at it in terms of how many wins Hue needs. I look at it in terms of losses. If we lose double digit games, Hue better be fired.
That is being fair. Personally I don't like Hue at all. He is a insecure little punk who I would have punked some time back.
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I don't look at it in terms of how many wins Hue needs. I look at it in terms of losses. If we lose double digit games, Hue better be fired.
That is being fair. Personally I don't like Hue at all. He is a insecure little punk who I would have punked some time back.
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Hue runs the team. He owns Greg WIlliams. He doesn't need Greg Williams, and if he decides to get rid of him, WIlliams is gone. Williams is a coffee fetcher and he is Hue's biitch. Make no mistake.
Hue "was allowed to" hire Gregg Williams..Gregg coaches his way. this wussification of stupid name calling could have been addressed by Hue long ago..not making a sample out of your #4 pick..
Haslam is not going to fire Hue jackson. He WILL allow Jackson to fire Williams and Dinky-Dump. Dude, IF Hue was not IN with the Haslams,
Hue Jackson "was not allowed" to hire his own OC..John Dorsey was & did..same as Dorsey has full control of roster..when Haslam strikes fire, it's either Hue or Dorsey? Think the frontrunner is still Hue Jackson? Haslem sure don't.. Here's a theory right up your alley..Dee & Mrs Jackson love dinking their victory doughnuts every morning than discussing Jackson's foundation..Take one for the team & stop this love affair ?
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Lawson Holland called it..
Hue is a one way type of coach and he even told me that Steve Spurrier made a terrible decision hiring him as RBs coach back in '02
Lawson was the tight ends coach and he told me how arrogant Hue was back then.
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imo, the injury info was already out in media? no? ..all i get is Hue power tripping a)hue trumped Wylie to Z on moving Joel. Hue told media than "you all ask my assistants far too many questions". b) Hue questions Denzel & Randall on practice field," are we listening" c) RB coach & Haley get Hue trabbled next, questioning toughness/absent from field..d) now it's Greggs turn..Gregg never called Denzel stupid, but yes he called out Denzel for stupid tackling techniques..sounds to me denzel does not accept coaching to well & Williams knows it.. Hues going down swinging with "this is my team" or we might need a marsh "mellow" campfire at Hue's place after lions game..
Well, it is Hue's fucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, it is Hue's Shmucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
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Zombo said:
Well, it is Hue's Shmucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
I just look at it as "If it was so and so ... ", like name a respected coach (Bill, Tomlin, McCarthy, Reid etc...) if they call out their DC then everybody goes "damn .... That's how good teams do it, the run a tight ship and keep their assistants in their place."
But Ol 1-31 Hue does it to one of his Hard Knocks TV Star coordinators and it's "oh my gosh he looks like such an idiot ... "
He looks like an idiot because he's 1-31.
He has no choice but to act like a leader while he is the leader and tell guys to shut up and do things his way. If you're going to be the head coach, be the head coach.
That's a different argument from whether he should be the head coach.
Zombo
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