Josh Gordon Traded to Pats
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Josh Gordon liked the instagram post of Hue getting fired. It's quite possible that Josh Gordon simply hated Hue and his system and everything to do with the Browns "process". Notice, a LOT of our moves still feel Exactly like moneyball moves. Everything, from cutting Nassib and Meder for unnamed newcomers to discussing trading Devalve. Who freaking knows how involved Depo still is with all of the decisions.
But trading Hyde was Definitely a moneyball move, 100%.
Trading Hyde wasn't moneyball hate to tell you. Either Hue or Haley refused to give Chubb enough touches, Dorsey forced their hand. Amazing how all of a sudden Duke Johnson got more involved in the offense when H & H got sent packing, huh?
Yeah, we really miss Carlos- Six carries for 11 yards against the Eagles. Long of seven, meaning he had 5 carries for four yards.
I have to think Dorsey- along with Wolf and Highsmith know a tad more about player evaluation than you do. It could be guys like Shelton, Nassib, and Meder (who's currently unemployed BTW) were bad fits for our scheme.
Trading Hyde wasn't moneyball hate to tell you. Either Hue or Haley refused to give Chubb enough touches, Dorsey forced their hand. Amazing how all of a sudden Duke Johnson got more involved in the offense when H & H got sent packing, huh?
Yeah, we really miss Carlos- Six carries for 11 yards against the Eagles. Long of seven, meaning he had 5 carries for four yards.
I have to think Dorsey- along with Wolf and Highsmith know a tad more about player evaluation than you do. It could be guys like Shelton, Nassib, and Meder (who's currently unemployed BTW) were bad fits for our scheme.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
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Trading Hyde wasn't moneyball hate to tell you. Either Hue or Haley refused to give Chubb enough touches, Dorsey forced their hand. Amazing how all of a sudden Duke Johnson got more involved in the offense when H & H got sent packing, huh?
Yeah, we really miss Carlos- Six carries for 11 yards against the Eagles. Long of seven, meaning he had 5 carries for four yards.
I have to think Dorsey- along with Wolf and Highsmith know a tad more about player evaluation than you do. It could be guys like Shelton, Nassib, and Meder (who's currently unemployed BTW) were bad fits for our scheme.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
LOL, since 1999 I have too, but I don't have to do a look at me, shout from the rooftops see how great I can pick players. Dorsey did a great job stocking KC with guys like Mahomes, and was better than you this year Mr. 1-7 game changer Saquon Barkley.
Still got a horn to toot, huh? You're just like the stock trader that posts how great his winners are, but regarding his losers? Crickets. Like Paxton Lynch- for years. And every one of the top QBs you were touting this year, can't be wrong when you cover all your bases. Want me to copy the post that got you kicked off the 'Tard here while I'm at it- so guys can see another example of the real flamebating sarcastic you? Nice PM too.
And I'll say it again. Ever wonder why you've been kicked off of every Browns message board I'm aware of you've ever posted on? It's because you choose to be an Internet azzhole. Well the Moderators here are past fed up with your act. Internet Tough Guy. Act civil, or your posts are gone, keep it up, you're going to be gone for an extended period of time. This Board gets along just fine without your BS trolling. Be thankful Stan opts to keep you around, because about no one else does.
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Trading Hyde wasn't moneyball hate to tell you. Either Hue or Haley refused to give Chubb enough touches, Dorsey forced their hand. Amazing how all of a sudden Duke Johnson got more involved in the offense when H & H got sent packing, huh?
Yeah, we really miss Carlos- Six carries for 11 yards against the Eagles. Long of seven, meaning he had 5 carries for four yards.
I have to think Dorsey- along with Wolf and Highsmith know a tad more about player evaluation than you do. It could be guys like Shelton, Nassib, and Meder (who's currently unemployed BTW) were bad fits for our scheme.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
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Trading Hyde wasn't moneyball hate to tell you. Either Hue or Haley refused to give Chubb enough touches, Dorsey forced their hand. Amazing how all of a sudden Duke Johnson got more involved in the offense when H & H got sent packing, huh?
Yeah, we really miss Carlos- Six carries for 11 yards against the Eagles. Long of seven, meaning he had 5 carries for four yards.
I have to think Dorsey- along with Wolf and Highsmith know a tad more about player evaluation than you do. It could be guys like Shelton, Nassib, and Meder (who's currently unemployed BTW) were bad fits for our scheme.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
Hyde blocks. Baker is getting destroyed. I have chosen more great players than has Dorsey.
When were you an NFL GM?
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He's throwing the bait, and you're biting the hook.
I dont care. I know exactly what he is TRYING to do. But since he wants to make people made and annoy them, I am going to constantly embarrass him until he is either gone or answers the question.
You realize ignoring him doesnt do the job, he just continues to do all his stupid shtick, so we will see if he is man enough to try and actually discuss something
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He's throwing the bait, and you're biting the hook.
I dont care. I know exactly what he is TRYING to do. But since he wants to make people made and annoy them, I am going to constantly embarrass him until he is either gone or answers the question.
You realize ignoring him doesnt do the job, he just continues to do all his stupid shtick, so we will see if he is man enough to try and actually discuss something
I dont care. I know exactly what he is TRYING to do. But since he wants to make people made and annoy them, I am going to constantly embarrass him until he is either gone or answers the question.
You realize ignoring him doesn't do the job, he just continues to do all his stupid shtick, so we will see if he is man enough to try and actually discuss something
I'll expound a little more Gunz, but it does seem you've got him figured out pretty well. I heard from Trollie he doesn't even believe 1\2 of the crap he post here, just keeps escalating the BS until someone takes the bait. Thinks us big bad Mods are picking on poor widdle Ghoolie when he gets out of line.
And you have to realize he's an absolute master at revisionist history. Great at predicting things? As I told him, the Browns have been so bad for so long, predicting that ______ is going to suck- was about as difficult as predicting water runs downhill.
I wasn't going to do it, but after meditating about it on my nice two hour bike ride on the Waterford- I really didn't want to embarass him any further, but he's well beyond that stage. Here's King Ghoolie's post (in part) from the other Board, and why EE (one of their Mods) banned him.
"IF WE HAD A QB, A COUPLE WIDE RECEIVERS, A DEFENSE CAPABLE OF SOME STOPS, A KICKED WHO DIDN'T MISS KICKS, REFS WHO STOPPED CALLING OUR PENALTIES, AND IF THEY JUST LET US SHOOT BB GUNS AT THE OPPOSING TEAM... WE WOULD BE UNDEFEATED.
HASLAM, DORKEY, AND WILLIAMS THE THUG REALLY HAVE THIS TEAM PERCOLATING.
GO TAMPA BAY!
Seriously, Browns fans are jackoffs."Yup Gunz- this is the real guy behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz- when he forgets to take his Meds.
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I dont care. I know exactly what he is TRYING to do. But since he wants to make people made and annoy them, I am going to constantly embarrass him until he is either gone or answers the question.
You realize ignoring him doesn't do the job, he just continues to do all his stupid shtick, so we will see if he is man enough to try and actually discuss something
I'll expound a little more Gunz, but it does seem you've got him figured out pretty well. I heard from Trollie he doesn't even believe 1\2 of the crap he post here, just keeps escalating the BS until someone takes the bait. Thinks us big bad Mods are picking on poor widdle Ghoolie when he gets out of line.
And you have to realize he's an absolute master at revisionist history. Great at predicting things? As I told him, the Browns have been so bad for so long, predicting that ______ is going to suck- was about as difficult as predicting water runs downhill.
I wasn't going to do it, but after meditating about it on my nice two hour bike ride on the Waterford- I really didn't want to embarass him any further, but he's well beyond that stage. Here's King Ghoolie's post (in part) from the other Board, and why EE (one of their Mods) banned him.
"IF WE HAD A QB, A COUPLE WIDE RECEIVERS, A DEFENSE CAPABLE OF SOME STOPS, A KICKED WHO DIDN'T MISS KICKS, REFS WHO STOPPED CALLING OUR PENALTIES, AND IF THEY JUST LET US SHOOT BB GUNS AT THE OPPOSING TEAM... WE WOULD BE UNDEFEATED.
HASLAM, DORKEY, AND WILLIAMS THE THUG REALLY HAVE THIS TEAM PERCOLATING.
GO TAMPA BAY!
Seriously, Browns fans are jackoffs."Yup Gunz- this is the real guy behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz- when he forgets to take his Meds.
I'll expound a little more Gunz, but it does seem you've got him figured out pretty well. I heard from Trollie he doesn't even believe 1\2 of the crap he post here, just keeps escalating the BS until someone takes the bait. Thinks us big bad Mods are picking on poor widdle Ghoolie when he gets out of line.
And you have to realize he's an absolute master at revisionist history. Great at predicting things? As I told him, the Browns have been so bad for so long, predicting that ______ is going to suck- was about as difficult as predicting water runs downhill.
I wasn't going to do it, but after meditating about it on my nice two hour bike ride on the Waterford- I really didn't want to embarass him any further, but he's well beyond that stage. Here's King Ghoolie's post (in part) from the other Board, and why EE (one of their Mods) banned him.
"IF WE HAD A QB, A COUPLE WIDE RECEIVERS, A DEFENSE CAPABLE OF SOME STOPS, A KICKED WHO DIDN'T MISS KICKS, REFS WHO STOPPED CALLING OUR PENALTIES, AND IF THEY JUST LET US SHOOT BB GUNS AT THE OPPOSING TEAM... WE WOULD BE UNDEFEATED.
HASLAM, DORKEY, AND WILLIAMS THE THUG REALLY HAVE THIS TEAM PERCOLATING.
GO TAMPA BAY!
Seriously, Browns fans are jackoffs."Yup Gunz- this is the real guy behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz- when he forgets to take his Meds.
I dunno why, you guys have been here a lot longer and are on here way more than me, but I feel like I have to do this to him. I'm tired of every single time I come on here, which usually isn't a whole lot he is trying to bully someone, so I have taken up the task of teaching the bully a lesson.
Maybe at some point I will tire of it, but at the moment I want to embarrass him, and that coming from a very good and heartfelt person. I just cant stand all the hypocrisy. At least the other things that confuse me on here aren't coming from a dark place, no matter how wrong or misplaced.
But I have an idea. Since I really don't have an opinion on fatty being here or not its yalls call, but I say if he doesn't answer, or try to give a response then he gets suspended. 1 week for not answering in a week. And once he reaches the number of issues Gordon had, he gets longer, traded, or his name changed lol
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It probably was and he thought that the well-being of the team was to be without Gordon.
Okay, that's just silly. I mean, who needs a hall of fame caliber wide receiver? Oh yeah...the schmucks working out Brice Butler.
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It probably was and he thought that the well-being of the team was to be without Gordon.
Okay, that's just silly. I mean, who needs a hall of fame caliber wide receiver? Oh yeah...the schmucks working out Brice Butler.
Okay, that's just silly. I mean, who needs a hall of fame caliber wide receiver? Oh yeah...the schmucks working out Brice Butler.
Gordon may be no better than Butler at this point
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Gordon may be no better than Butler at this point
I loved the Twilight Zone when I was a kid and still do, Gip. You're giving Rod Serling a run for his money.
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Gordon may be no better than Butler at this point
I loved the Twilight Zone when I was a kid and still do, Gip. You're giving Rod Serling a run for his money.
I loved the Twilight Zone when I was a kid and still do, Gip. You're giving Rod Serling a run for his money.
Gordon has Tom Brady throwing to him. If this was the Gordon of 5 years ago....that would be an unbeatable combination. I suspect that if this Brice guy had Brady throwing to him he would look as good as Gordon does.
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It probably was and he thought that the well-being of the team was to be without Gordon.
Okay, that's just silly. I mean, who needs a hall of fame caliber wide receiver? Oh yeah...the schmucks working out Brice Butler.
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hall of fame caliber? The only way Puffy gets anywhere near the hall of fame is with a ticket.
Problem is Mark, those guys who think Gordon is HOF material- he's already missed essentially four years of his career with drug suspensions. Even should he play another 7 seasons at a high level- to age 35 (lotsa luck there) he's never going to put up the type of numbers in career yards and touchdowns that would get him anywhere close to HOF consideration. My guess is he's going to need about 80 more touchdowns and at least 10,000 more career yards to even be in the discussion. Guys like Antonio Brown and Julio Jones have about a 7,000 yard head start on Josh.
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I think Dorsey did Gordon a favor to get his life together.
“If New England can’t fix this guy, nobody can”
I would've thought Dorsey's primary concern was the well-being of the team.
I would've thought Dorsey's primary concern was the well-being of the team.
As others intimated, Josh's and the team's well-being could both be served by the trade.
I don't believe Josh's well being was why Dorsey made the deal (remember the story was that Josh was on the road to being cut when teams started calling), but I can't completely dismiss it as being a consideration in doing business with the Pats.
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I would've thought Dorsey's primary concern was the well-being of the team.
As others intimated, Josh's and the team's well-being could both be served by the trade.
I don't believe Josh's well being was why Dorsey made the deal (remember the story was that Josh was on the road to being cut when teams started calling), but I can't completely dismiss it as being a consideration in doing business with the Pats.
As others intimated, Josh's and the team's well-being could both be served by the trade.
I don't believe Josh's well being was why Dorsey made the deal (remember the story was that Josh was on the road to being cut when teams started calling), but I can't completely dismiss it as being a consideration in doing business with the Pats.
But do you really think that someone else offered us a fourth round pick and Dorsey said "nah I want Josh to succeed so I'm going to send him to a New England for a 5th round pick"
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As others intimated, Josh's and the team's well-being could both be served by the trade.
I don't believe Josh's well being was why Dorsey made the deal (remember the story was that Josh was on the road to being cut when teams started calling), but I can't completely dismiss it as being a consideration in doing business with the Pats.
But do you really think that someone else offered us a fourth round pick and Dorsey said "nah I want Josh to succeed so I'm going to send him to a New England for a 5th round pick"
But do you really think that someone else offered us a fourth round pick and Dorsey said "nah I want Josh to succeed so I'm going to send him to a New England for a 5th round pick"
No....I don't think that happened. I don't think anyone offered anything better than that.
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No....I don't think that happened. I don't think anyone offered anything better than that.
That seems to be what some are suggesting.
Edit they seem to think that Dorsey took a lesser deal to put josh in the right position or best position for him to succeed
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That seems to be what some are suggesting.
That's what I believe but no one will ever know. I believe the 2 strikes he already has against him. The amount of time he's missed and that he's one mistake away from a lifetime ban makes him a HUGE risk for any team to trade much of anything for him, regardless of the amount of talent, even talent that hasn't been on display since 2013.
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