***Official Browns @ Saints Game Day Thread***
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MT is 6'3 and every bit of 210lbs. It will be a new level of physical Ward has yet to experience. THAT will be the difference. Post 9/10/18....
@texasag1969 Like I said, MT is a top THREE receiver. Argument that he might be better than Julio because of aversion to injury. He'll be talked about at the best in the NFL soon.
Wouldn't Ward and Thomas have gone against each other at OSU's practices?
Wouldn't Ward and Thomas have gone against each other at OSU's practices?
Not necessarily - Ward didn't slip into the rotation until 2016 and by that point the majority of the practice looks would have been from Apple, Conley, Hooker, Lattimore, etc etc.
Still, MT is a year 3 NFL receiver in a professional strength program that has seen the best DB's the game has to offer. Denzel has a lot of promise but this wasn't a matchup I expected him to excel in. Still, he had a solid showing but his body placement on the fade wasn't ideal. Might not have mattered either way. 6'3 is 6'3.
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This one’s on the special teams honcho.
Today was on special teams but the offense is offensive. Anyone who has watched these two debacles and has been inspired by this offense needs therapy
Today was on special teams but the offense is offensive. Anyone who has watched these two debacles and has been inspired by this offense needs therapy
Then sign me up Dr. Freud. I had very few issues with how the offense went about its business today. Dink and dunk for sure, but kept chains moving and kept the defense rested.
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did peppers do anything at all today ?
Hey actually did more than Ward today. Had a better game. Made a lot of good plays that might not necessarily show up in the box score.
But I know all of Pep's criticism is 100% unbiased and has nothing to do with his college.... lol.
I'll let you just foam at the mouth over in the corner. Maybe you can get that education one day
Hey actually did more than Ward today. Had a better game. Made a lot of good plays that might not necessarily show up in the box score.
But I know all of Pep's criticism is 100% unbiased and has nothing to do with his college.... lol.
I'll let you just foam at the mouth over in the corner. Maybe you can get that education one day
How did he have a better game? I'm just wondering what you saw. Commentators even made the remark that a majority of the Saints passing came on the left side of the field because they were avoiding Ward. I think he gave up three catches to Mike Thomas
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That is the Browns in a nutshell, poor drafting. As a Sooner fan I think Mayfield was a huge mistake.
Because Mayfield had such a bad game today........
Because Mayfield had such a bad game today........
Everyone loves the backup QB
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We have not won a game since December 2016. You cannot blame a loss on a couple plays or missed kick(s). Hue does not know how to win....we do not threaten or put fear into any team....until we get some leadership that knows how to win, lead a team that can put fear into other teams, and will not accept when we lose, we will continue to be disappointed with the final outcome of games.
Yes you can if the kicker makes his kicks we win this game. The only decision Hue made that I may question is not running one more play before the final FG attempt but that had little impact on the game. No one is going to respect you until you win, so your logic makes no sense. Yes they need to win, they also need to cut dead weight. Gonzalez was iffy last year, we can thank Sashi for that move. Dan Bailey better be brought in Monday. I have no problem blaming Hue, but today wasn't on Hue, it was on the special teams. Maybe you can blame Hue for hiring the special teams coach I guess.
Yes you can if the kicker makes his kicks we win this game. The only decision Hue made that I may question is not running one more play before the final FG attempt but that had little impact on the game. No one is going to respect you until you win, so your logic makes no sense. Yes they need to win, they also need to cut dead weight. Gonzalez was iffy last year, we can thank Sashi for that move. Dan Bailey better be brought in Monday. I have no problem blaming Hue, but today wasn't on Hue, it was on the special teams. Maybe you can blame Hue for hiring the special teams coach I guess.
8 seconds isn't enough time from 35 yards out to be comfortable you'll get another shot, IMO
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Yes you can if the kicker makes his kicks we win this game. The only decision Hue made that I may question is not running one more play before the final FG attempt but that had little impact on the game. No one is going to respect you until you win, so your logic makes no sense. Yes they need to win, they also need to cut dead weight. Gonzalez was iffy last year, we can thank Sashi for that move. Dan Bailey better be brought in Monday. I have no problem blaming Hue, but today wasn't on Hue, it was on the special teams. Maybe you can blame Hue for hiring the special teams coach I guess.
8 seconds isn't enough time from 35 yards out to be comfortable you'll get another shot, IMO
8 seconds isn't enough time from 35 yards out to be comfortable you'll get another shot, IMO
I agree....without a timeout, I'd be afraid of being stopped inbounds and the game is over. It was the right choice to kick it at that point and it should be made.
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Wouldn't Ward and Thomas have gone against each other at OSU's practices?
Not necessarily - Ward didn't slip into the rotation until 2016 and by that point the majority of the practice looks would have been from Apple, Conley, Hooker, Lattimore, etc etc.
Still, MT is a year 3 NFL receiver in a professional strength program that has seen the best DB's the game has to offer. Denzel has a lot of promise but this wasn't a matchup I expected him to excel in. Still, he had a solid showing but his body placement on the fade wasn't ideal. Might not have mattered either way. 6'3 is 6'3.
Not necessarily - Ward didn't slip into the rotation until 2016 and by that point the majority of the practice looks would have been from Apple, Conley, Hooker, Lattimore, etc etc.
Still, MT is a year 3 NFL receiver in a professional strength program that has seen the best DB's the game has to offer. Denzel has a lot of promise but this wasn't a matchup I expected him to excel in. Still, he had a solid showing but his body placement on the fade wasn't ideal. Might not have mattered either way. 6'3 is 6'3.
Well I imagine OSUs strength program isn't too shabby itself. Hopefully he keeps growing, which I'm sure he will. He'll need something for 6'3" WRs then cuz he can't just get a pass
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
@british-browns-fan-everton said:
Too long without a win. The team will be taking an extra touch before throwing. You could tell zane over thought every kick.
We just need one horrible win. The right decision by the ref. An amazing throw by the QB. Or the opposition not kicking well.
Once we have a win. You would hope we can build from it.
Back to the days of 4 or 5 win seasons?
It would help to get a spark from within the team on the offense as someone that becomes the big playmaker and raises the bar. Not sure who that would be.
Back to the days of 4 or 5 win seasons?
It would help to get a spark from within the team on the offense as someone that becomes the big playmaker and raises the bar. Not sure who that would be.
Times like this a spark can come from someone in the youth set up or fringes.
I know people are saying mayfield is too much of a rookie to throw in. But why not. If he's good enough. He's old enough.
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Hey actually did more than Ward today. Had a better game. Made a lot of good plays that might not necessarily show up in the box score.
But I know all of Pep's criticism is 100% unbiased and has nothing to do with his college.... lol.
I'll let you just foam at the mouth over in the corner. Maybe you can get that education one day
How did he have a better game? I'm just wondering what you saw. Commentators even made the remark that a majority of the Saints passing came on the left side of the field because they were avoiding Ward. I think he gave up three catches to Mike Thomas
How did he have a better game? I'm just wondering what you saw. Commentators even made the remark that a majority of the Saints passing came on the left side of the field because they were avoiding Ward. I think he gave up three catches to Mike Thomas
Ward gave up some passes and missed a lot of tackles. Pep was in the backfield when called to be, had some nice sticks in the run game, and cleaned up on some tackles down field after misses by other players. Did some non box score things too. Not saying it was an all world performance but he played well.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Today was on special teams but the offense is offensive. Anyone who has watched these two debacles and has been inspired by this offense needs therapy
Then sign me up Dr. Freud. I had very few issues with how the offense went about its business today. Dink and dunk for sure, but kept chains moving and kept the defense rested.
Then sign me up Dr. Freud. I had very few issues with how the offense went about its business today. Dink and dunk for sure, but kept chains moving and kept the defense rested.
Points off of turnovers? Pre-Hail Mary 21-29 for 199 and 1 INT, oh bad weather indoors
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We have not won a game since December 2016. You cannot blame a loss on a couple plays or missed kick(s). Hue does not know how to win....we do not threaten or put fear into any team....until we get some leadership that knows how to win, lead a team that can put fear into other teams, and will not accept when we lose, we will continue to be disappointed with the final outcome of games.
This is EXACTLY correct. Hue is a loser and the team will not win with him as head coach.
This is EXACTLY correct. Hue is a loser and the team will not win with him as head coach.
Thank you for getting it.
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How did he have a better game? I'm just wondering what you saw. Commentators even made the remark that a majority of the Saints passing came on the left side of the field because they were avoiding Ward. I think he gave up three catches to Mike Thomas
Ward gave up some passes and missed a lot of tackles. Pep was in the backfield when called to be, had some nice sticks in the run game, and cleaned up on some tackles down field after misses by other players. Did some non box score things too. Not saying it was an all world performance but he played well.
Ward gave up some passes and missed a lot of tackles. Pep was in the backfield when called to be, had some nice sticks in the run game, and cleaned up on some tackles down field after misses by other players. Did some non box score things too. Not saying it was an all world performance but he played well.
He gave up three passes while in man coverage they were all to Mike Thomas One In The End Zone which I commented in the tavern that he needs to find the ball and those situations as he had good position. One on the back shoulder throw they got them down there which was a great play by Brees and Thomas but Ward still needs to be better on that. And the other cat she gave up was early when he actually deflected it but Thomas still came down with it. I don't recall any missed tackles but I may have missed them. I'm not saying that Peppers didn't have a decent game I just don't think Ward had a bad game or worst game than peppers did
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Then sign me up Dr. Freud. I had very few issues with how the offense went about its business today. Dink and dunk for sure, but kept chains moving and kept the defense rested.
Points off of turnovers? Pre-Hail Mary 21-29 for 199 and 1 INT, oh bad weather indoors
Points off of turnovers?
Yeah, l hear you. I said very few issues, not zero issues. It wasn’t a bad plan against this team. Clock churning dink and dunk. Keeping Brees off the field. 4 yards here. 7 yards there.
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Good game... in it all the way.
Good effort... another fast start by the D. Greg has his unit playing.
But...
We simply do not know how to win yet. I know I'm being a broken record on this, but it is a real thing.
I know he made the deep pass that Callaway tracked down at the end... but I'm ready for Baker.
Almost everything TT throws floats. But moreover the pick he threw was a throw any decent vet QB should know you cannot try. The Primary was a short slant and when TT had to reset he had to instantly know to go elsewhere as the FS now knows the play and the continued route by the receiver (in this case Njoku) only closes the gap between the FS and the INT point.
Plus the OL looked much better this week in no small part to some help from their friends... namely TEs and/or a FB/H-back.
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Points off of turnovers?
Yeah, l hear you. I said very few issues, not zero issues. It wasn’t a bad plan against this team. Clock churning dink and dunk. Keeping Brees off the field. 4 yards here. 7 yards there.
Yeah, l hear you. I said very few issues, not zero issues. It wasn’t a bad plan against this team. Clock churning dink and dunk. Keeping Brees off the field. 4 yards here. 7 yards there.
I get it but Taylor doesn't look very good and our O-line can't run block.
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Ward gave up some passes and missed a lot of tackles. Pep was in the backfield when called to be, had some nice sticks in the run game, and cleaned up on some tackles down field after misses by other players. Did some non box score things too. Not saying it was an all world performance but he played well.
He gave up three passes while in man coverage they were all to Mike Thomas One In The End Zone which I commented in the tavern that he needs to find the ball and those situations as he had good position. One on the back shoulder throw they got them down there which was a great play by Brees and Thomas but Ward still needs to be better on that. And the other cat she gave up was early when he actually deflected it but Thomas still came down with it. I don't recall any missed tackles but I may have missed them. I'm not saying that Peppers didn't have a decent game I just don't think Ward had a bad game or worst game than peppers did
He gave up three passes while in man coverage they were all to Mike Thomas One In The End Zone which I commented in the tavern that he needs to find the ball and those situations as he had good position. One on the back shoulder throw they got them down there which was a great play by Brees and Thomas but Ward still needs to be better on that. And the other cat she gave up was early when he actually deflected it but Thomas still came down with it. I don't recall any missed tackles but I may have missed them. I'm not saying that Peppers didn't have a decent game I just don't think Ward had a bad game or worst game than peppers did
I'm not saying Ward had a bad game either. There were a good amount of missed tackles though. Ward wasn't the only one either.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
He gave up three passes while in man coverage they were all to Mike Thomas One In The End Zone which I commented in the tavern that he needs to find the ball and those situations as he had good position. One on the back shoulder throw they got them down there which was a great play by Brees and Thomas but Ward still needs to be better on that. And the other cat she gave up was early when he actually deflected it but Thomas still came down with it. I don't recall any missed tackles but I may have missed them. I'm not saying that Peppers didn't have a decent game I just don't think Ward had a bad game or worst game than peppers did
I'm not saying Ward had a bad game either. There were a good amount of missed tackles though. Ward wasn't the only one either.
I'm not saying Ward had a bad game either. There were a good amount of missed tackles though. Ward wasn't the only one either.
I blame some of those missed tackles on Kamara who is just a tough back to bring down.
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I'm not saying Ward had a bad game either. There were a good amount of missed tackles though. Ward wasn't the only one either.
I blame some of those missed tackles on Kamara who is just a tough back to bring down.
I blame some of those missed tackles on Kamara who is just a tough back to bring down.
Very slippery.
You don't average 6.1 yards a carry last season just being fast.
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Yes you can if the kicker makes his kicks we win this game. The only decision Hue made that I may question is not running one more play before the final FG attempt but that had little impact on the game. No one is going to respect you until you win, so your logic makes no sense. Yes they need to win, they also need to cut dead weight. Gonzalez was iffy last year, we can thank Sashi for that move. Dan Bailey better be brought in Monday. I have no problem blaming Hue, but today wasn't on Hue, it was on the special teams. Maybe you can blame Hue for hiring the special teams coach I guess.
8 seconds isn't enough time from 35 yards out to be comfortable you'll get another shot, IMO
8 seconds isn't enough time from 35 yards out to be comfortable you'll get another shot, IMO
I don't think Zane would have hit it if he were closer, he was obviously thinking about it too much. I just watched the Packers with 7 seconds left run one more play. You either get the out right away on the side line or throw it away. Its possible, but I understand going for the kick right then.
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