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  • C calfoxwc

    @nickers said:

    Tyrod should feel embarrassed that a kid with no reps with the 1's came in.. Cleaned up the stinky mess he left on the field and helped the team achieve it first victory in awhile..

    Not at all. Surely he knows that Baker has outstanding skills that he doesn't have, and it was only a matter of time. The Jets saw what Tyrod was able to be doing, and they took it away. Tyrod just wasn't able to get past it.

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #257

    @calfoxwc said:

    Not at all. Surely he knows that Baker has outstanding skills that he doesn't have, and it was only a matter of time. The Jets saw what Tyrod was able to be doing, and they took it away. Tyrod just wasn't able to get past it.

    Tyrod is a complete fraud at th Qb position

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #258

    being a "game manager" type doesn't equate to fraud. Tyrod doesn't have all the skills Baker does, was banged up,

    and just isn't much a danger to zip long balls around the field. Tyrod is actually the real deal, his teammates know it.

    But now, it's Baker time I think. Tyrod's limitations showed badly vs the Jets. Oakland won't be much easier than the Jets on defense.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #259

    I don't think TT's "limitations" showed... he simply has not played well for us. Again... I can only think of one series vs. NOLA where he was sharp. He played much better in BUF last year. Hell... he played better in our preseason, but 5 for 5 in the opener seems like long ago.

    Regardless... Tyrod is now the most expensive back-up in the league.

    Fraud? Really, nickers? Does casting dispersion make you feel better?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • C calfoxwc

    LOVE THE WIN ! LOVE THE DEFENSE!

       About Tyrod - the Jets game planned to shut him down, and Tyrod doesn't have the skills to

    beat them. I believe he's banged up - his passes didn't have the same energy as earlier on. He didn't run like he did

    earlier on.

       When Baker went in, he is brilliant in seeing the field, and can accurately zip a pass into tight windows. Tyrod just can't do that.

    This defense is surprising more and more folks every week. One of my earlier favorite players - Ogunjobi - is rocking the los and he can make plays where it's surprising to see him get there, as big and powerful as he is.

      And Ward. My hunch is, those who complained about the Browns drafting him over Bradley Chubb should be thankful Ward is a Cleveland Browns. Ward is brilliant, and has the skills to dominate in the secondary.

    Like I've said elsewhere, my opinion, guys with the visual/mental processing skills in an instant are rare in the NFL. These guys are very, very hard to find.

       Darnold throw a lot of ints in college, threw ints vs the Browns. I think he lacks some of those skills. Baker SEES the field like instantly, and has the arm to zing a pass right on the money after making the right read and decision, and he has an uncanny escapability - like he has "eyes in the back of his head".

       Instincts - seems his are way high on the charts. I'm sure Tyrod knew he would lose his job as starter to Baker sooner than later.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #260

    @calfoxwc said:

    LOVE THE WIN ! LOVE THE DEFENSE!

       About Tyrod - the Jets game planned to shut him down, and Tyrod doesn't have the skills to

    beat them. I believe he's banged up - his passes didn't have the same energy as earlier on. He didn't run like he did

    earlier on.

       When Baker went in, he is brilliant in seeing the field, and can accurately zip a pass into tight windows. Tyrod just can't do that.

    This defense is surprising more and more folks every week. One of my earlier favorite players - Ogunjobi - is rocking the los and he can make plays where it's surprising to see him get there, as big and powerful as he is.

      And Ward. My hunch is, those who complained about the Browns drafting him over Bradley Chubb should be thankful Ward is a Cleveland Browns. Ward is brilliant, and has the skills to dominate in the secondary.

    Like I've said elsewhere, my opinion, guys with the visual/mental processing skills in an instant are rare in the NFL. These guys are very, very hard to find.

       Darnold throw a lot of ints in college, threw ints vs the Browns. I think he lacks some of those skills. Baker SEES the field like instantly, and has the arm to zing a pass right on the money after making the right read and decision, and he has an uncanny escapability - like he has "eyes in the back of his head".

       Instincts - seems his are way high on the charts. I'm sure Tyrod knew he would lose his job as starter to Baker sooner than later.

    And that is where the Brees comparison goes well beyond the size. Exact same qualities and as Baker gets more experience he will also become just as good at diagnosing defenses and knowing exactly where to go with the ball before he even looks up. Brees is a special talent and I now see Baker is in that same exact league. Will he have some growing pains? Sure he will. There were a couple I bet he wished he'd had back that were so fast the DBs just could not intercept, but they did knock them down. Also our youngest receivers have to learn to come back for the ball. They can't just wait for arrival, no matter how much zip it has. This is the NFL.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I don't think TT's "limitations" showed... he simply has not played well for us. Again... I can only think of one series vs. NOLA where he was sharp. He played much better in BUF last year. Hell... he played better in our preseason, but 5 for 5 in the opener seems like long ago.

    Regardless... Tyrod is now the most expensive back-up in the league.

    Fraud? Really, nickers? Does casting dispersion make you feel better?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #261

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't think TT's "limitations" showed... he simply has not played well for us. Again... I can only think of one series vs. NOLA where he was sharp. He played much better in BUF last year. Hell... he played better in our preseason, but 5 for 5 in the opener seems like long ago.

    Regardless... Tyrod is now the most expensive back-up in the league.

    Fraud? Really, nickers? Does casting dispersion make you feel better?

    Hmmm Tour- just thought of this- what would Hue have done if Tyrod hadn't gotten hurt? Down by 14 it was looking mighty bleak.  Ride his lame horse with him off into the sunset?  

    Don't forget Taylor in the past couple games had two horribly underthrown deep balls- that would have been touchdowns if they were on target. Last week the int to Gordon, and this week Calloway had his guy seriously beat and Taylor underthrew him by at least 5 yards. 

    Now comparisons. the few times Tyrod recognized he had a guy open, the passes were uncatchable.  Well into the second quarter we had negative passing yards- that's beyond putrid. 4\14 for 19 yards.  Mayfield would have been 20\23 if not for some drops, including a very uncharacteristic one to Landry that hit him right between the 8 and 0. 

    Not buying the Jets weren't ready for Baker- you have to prepare for that contingency. Those were the same guys catching passes for the Browns, and amazing what happens when the ball gets out in a hurry and on target. Everything I liked about Mayfield pre draft was on full display. Dan Orlovsky commented how hard it had to be getting zero first team reps, and then come out and put on a performance like that. Nah- not ready to put Baker in Canton yet, but the initial game was encouraging. BTW PFF said Baker's first game graded out the highest since they've been keeping track of such things. 

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  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #262

    I stand by my statement.. Taylor is a fraud in the sense.. We got sold a bill of faulty goods.. He plays like caca...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #263

    rem the jets saw tyrod twice a year, they know him. Promise u that in a year or two you'll see our div rivals at times make baker look stupid. But that'll be on the OC not baker. Tyrods ineffevtuality last night isnt 100% on him. All that being said, baker see's things downfield tyrod doesnt. Thats obvious. Bakers just one of those kids. All i hope for is that when defenses start squatting on those slants and wheels...they let baker throw it over the top. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I did not know cal was at the game...

    Browns fan catches possum roaming the stands at FirstEnergy Stadium

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_fan_catches_possum_roam.html

    Busted Coverage@bustedcoverage
    Nbd, just a Browns fan catching a possum tonight at the stadium
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    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #264

    @tour2ma said:

    I did not know cal was at the game...

    Browns fan catches possum roaming the stands at FirstEnergy Stadium

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_fan_catches_possum_roam.html

    And we call Steelers fans dumb? Bet that guy didn't know possums have razor sharp teeth and can inflict serious damage if they decide to bite you. Saw a clip on Animal Planet where an exterminator had to remove one from a lady's house- and he was wearing Kevlar gauntlets when he grabbed it. 

  • B blitzz2 wrote on
    #265

    Seems to me in the 2nd half, they seemed to hold the edge. 1st half they were killing them on the runs to the edge. I was yelling just hold it.  2nd half they seemed to hold it pretty well. Especially the left on the D.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't think TT's "limitations" showed... he simply has not played well for us. Again... I can only think of one series vs. NOLA where he was sharp. He played much better in BUF last year. Hell... he played better in our preseason, but 5 for 5 in the opener seems like long ago.

    Regardless... Tyrod is now the most expensive back-up in the league.

    Fraud? Really, nickers? Does casting dispersion make you feel better?

    Hmmm Tour- just thought of this- what would Hue have done if Tyrod hadn't gotten hurt? Down by 14 it was looking mighty bleak.  Ride his lame horse with him off into the sunset?  

    Don't forget Taylor in the past couple games had two horribly underthrown deep balls- that would have been touchdowns if they were on target. Last week the int to Gordon, and this week Calloway had his guy seriously beat and Taylor underthrew him by at least 5 yards. 

    Now comparisons. the few times Tyrod recognized he had a guy open, the passes were uncatchable.  Well into the second quarter we had negative passing yards- that's beyond putrid. 4\14 for 19 yards.  Mayfield would have been 20\23 if not for some drops, including a very uncharacteristic one to Landry that hit him right between the 8 and 0. 

    Not buying the Jets weren't ready for Baker- you have to prepare for that contingency. Those were the same guys catching passes for the Browns, and amazing what happens when the ball gets out in a hurry and on target. Everything I liked about Mayfield pre draft was on full display. Dan Orlovsky commented how hard it had to be getting zero first team reps, and then come out and put on a performance like that. Nah- not ready to put Baker in Canton yet, but the initial game was encouraging. BTW PFF said Baker's first game graded out the highest since they've been keeping track of such things. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #266

    @hoorta said:

    Hmmm Tour- just thought of this- what would Hue have done if Tyrod hadn't gotten hurt?

    I only know that I am relieved we did not have to find out.

    Best guess? Hue rides TT into at least one, maybe two, series in the 2nd half... leaving no time for a comeback.

    Then he "has to review the tape"...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • D Dste Ace

    @tour2ma said:

    I did not know cal was at the game...

    Browns fan catches possum roaming the stands at FirstEnergy Stadium

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_fan_catches_possum_roam.html

    For some reason I pictured Cal as being a tad older...?

    C calfoxwc wrote on
    #267

    @dste-ace said:

    For some reason I pictured Cal as being a tad older...?

    no, I look pretty young. I'm known for looking younger - I usually use the joke about what my secret is -

    "I'm chronically immature"....

      neither guy is me - although I have carried a real big snapping turtle by the tail once. Risky stuff.

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  • C calfoxwc

    @dste-ace said:

    For some reason I pictured Cal as being a tad older...?

    no, I look pretty young. I'm known for looking younger - I usually use the joke about what my secret is -

    "I'm chronically immature"....

      neither guy is me - although I have carried a real big snapping turtle by the tail once. Risky stuff.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #268

    @calfoxwc said:

    neither guy is me

    Pretty sure I knew that... 😉

    @blitzz2 said:

    Seems to me in the 2nd half, they seemed to hold the edge. 1st half they were killing them on the runs to the edge. I was yelling just hold it.  2nd half they seemed to hold it pretty well. Especially the left on the D.

    So are you sating we made a "halftime adjustment"? ?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #269

    Opossums live in trees. Featherless ratbirds lurk under seats. 

  • C calfoxwc

    @dste-ace said:

    For some reason I pictured Cal as being a tad older...?

    no, I look pretty young. I'm known for looking younger - I usually use the joke about what my secret is -

    "I'm chronically immature"....

      neither guy is me - although I have carried a real big snapping turtle by the tail once. Risky stuff.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #270

    @calfoxwc said:

    - although I have carried a real big snapping turtle by the tail once. Risky stuff.

    So what does snapping turtle soup taste like??

  • T TexasAg1969

    @calfoxwc said:

    - although I have carried a real big snapping turtle by the tail once. Risky stuff.

    So what does snapping turtle soup taste like??

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on
    #271

    @texasag1969 said:

    So what does snapping turtle soup taste like??

    Just like regular turtle soup, except with more of a bite.

    C 1 Reply
    😂
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #272

    As a side note...the Browns are undefeated without Josh Gordon.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    @texasag1969 said:

    So what does snapping turtle soup taste like??

    Just like regular turtle soup, except with more of a bite.

    C calfoxwc wrote on
    #273

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Just like regular turtle soup, except with more of a bite.

    yep. Now I can go into the kitchen and drink some coffee, or it would have been all over my keyboard. LOL LOL

    Never tried turtle soup. It's on my agenda one of these days - but that time I got that big one by the tail, the ladies at our garage sale said to let it go, so, I walked it over to the creek.

    Few years ago, we were in West Munroe, LA - at Willie's restaurant (Duck Dynasty - Robertsons) and I wanted to order alligator, but it was out of season.

  • C calfoxwc

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Just like regular turtle soup, except with more of a bite.

    yep. Now I can go into the kitchen and drink some coffee, or it would have been all over my keyboard. LOL LOL

    Never tried turtle soup. It's on my agenda one of these days - but that time I got that big one by the tail, the ladies at our garage sale said to let it go, so, I walked it over to the creek.

    Few years ago, we were in West Munroe, LA - at Willie's restaurant (Duck Dynasty - Robertsons) and I wanted to order alligator, but it was out of season.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #274

    @calfoxwc said:

    Few years ago, we were in West Munroe, LA - at Willie's restaurant (Duck Dynasty - Robertsons) and I wanted to order alligator, but it was out of season.

    So did you suck dem crawfish heads instead??

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #275

    Gator is good... and it truly tastes like chicken. Rattlesnake is better.

    And turtle soup... finished with a splash of Sherry... is awesome.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Gator is good... and it truly tastes like chicken. Rattlesnake is better.

    And turtle soup... finished with a splash of Sherry... is awesome.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #276

    @tour2ma said:

    Gator is good... and it truly tastes like chicken. Rattlesnake is better.

    And turtle soup... finished with a splash of Sherry... is awesome.

    I've had turtle soup that was made old skool. Almost like a hunters stew. And it's true about turtle having seven different meats to it. I don't know Sherry but Suzy served mine with warm buns. Good stuff!

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