The official Terry Pluto thread
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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.

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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.

2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.

This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.

This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way.
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This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way.
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Didn't he have a line of BBQ sauce?
WSS
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
OMG I was at that game, still have the ticket stubs somewhere in my collection I'll have to look for them.
I was a maintenance foreman and my superintendant often gave me FREE or COMPLIMENTARY tickets.
.......edit add, I found my LAR at CLE ticket stub from 1978 BROWNS won 30-19. Have not found the 1977 game but it might be in another box.
Did find the 1977 PIT at CLE stub among others......and lots of INDIANS ticket stubs.
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
Edmund Hillary?
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A: The Browns rookie had a 6-7 record as a starter. The team was 7-7 in games where he played, which includes the win against the Jets, who led 14-0 when he replaced the injured Tyrod Taylor.
Q: OK, I’m waiting.
A: As a rookie, Mayfield threw 27 TD passes compared to 14 interceptions. He completed 64 percent of his passes. He had a 93.7 QB rating. He endured a firing of the head coach and offensive coordinator.
Q: So he had a better rookie season than Wentz or Goff.
A: Exactly. He had the second-best QB rating in the red zone (115.7), behind Brees (118.5) – 20 TD passes, zero interceptions.
Q: So this makes the Browns a Super Bowl contender?.......
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So after the 2019 draft is this the next big offseason topic?
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A: The Browns rookie had a 6-7 record as a starter. The team was 7-7 in games where he played, which includes the win against the Jets, who led 14-0 when he replaced the injured Tyrod Taylor.
Q: OK, I’m waiting.
A: As a rookie, Mayfield threw 27 TD passes compared to 14 interceptions. He completed 64 percent of his passes. He had a 93.7 QB rating. He endured a firing of the head coach and offensive coordinator.
Q: So he had a better rookie season than Wentz or Goff.
A: Exactly. He had the second-best QB rating in the red zone (115.7), behind Brees (118.5) – 20 TD passes, zero interceptions.
Q: So this makes the Browns a Super Bowl contender?.......
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So after the 2019 draft is this the next big offseason topic?
A: The Browns rookie had a 6-7 record as a starter. The team was 7-7 in games where he played, which includes the win against the Jets, who led 14-0 when he replaced the injured Tyrod Taylor.
Q: OK, I’m waiting.
A: As a rookie, Mayfield threw 27 TD passes compared to 14 interceptions. He completed 64 percent of his passes. He had a 93.7 QB rating. He endured a firing of the head coach and offensive coordinator.
Q: So he had a better rookie season than Wentz or Goff.
A: Exactly. He had the second-best QB rating in the red zone (115.7), behind Brees (118.5) – 20 TD passes, zero interceptions.
Q: So this makes the Browns a Super Bowl contender?.......
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So after the 2019 draft is this the next big offseason topic?
Super Bowl contender might be a stretch, but the 2019 Browns should be a serious contender for the playoffs. They could very well be in play for the AFC North title.
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A: The Browns rookie had a 6-7 record as a starter. The team was 7-7 in games where he played, which includes the win against the Jets, who led 14-0 when he replaced the injured Tyrod Taylor.
Q: OK, I’m waiting.
A: As a rookie, Mayfield threw 27 TD passes compared to 14 interceptions. He completed 64 percent of his passes. He had a 93.7 QB rating. He endured a firing of the head coach and offensive coordinator.
Q: So he had a better rookie season than Wentz or Goff.
A: Exactly. He had the second-best QB rating in the red zone (115.7), behind Brees (118.5) – 20 TD passes, zero interceptions.
Q: So this makes the Browns a Super Bowl contender?.......
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So after the 2019 draft is this the next big offseason topic?
Super Bowl contender might be a stretch, but the 2019 Browns should be a serious contender for the playoffs. They could very well be in play for the AFC North title.
Super Bowl contender might be a stretch, but the 2019 Browns should be a serious contender for the playoffs. They could very well be in play for the AFC North title.
With one more win we would have been already playing for the Divisional title in this season's last game, so yes, we should be contending for playoffs only looking at our division.
It is going to depend on how our AFC North rivals prepare for next year: Pittsburgh may implode, the Bengals look like they're rebuilding next year and the Ravens, who are the most well-rounded team on both sides in my opinion, have their coach on thin ice and a rookie QB who I don't trust one bit. Man, did he look bad in the Wildcard round...
Anyway, our division is a good one. I did the win/loss differential for each division and it is the following:
AFC East: -8
AFC North: +2
AFC South: +6
AFC West: +4
NFC East: -1
NFC North: +2
NFC South: -2
NFC West: -2
Looking at that, we have the third most competitive division, so getting a playoff berth is not an easy cake by any means*. Man, I'm so looking forward to next season!
EDIT NOTE: Though we face the two worst divisions (AFC East and NFC West)
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I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
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I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
yes they did and as far as their qb after we made ajustmeants in the forth quarter the team that played the ravens in the playoffs we gave the blueprint to them and of course it worked their qb is a glorified rb and we will kick their fucking ass's both times next year infact you heard it here first we go 6-0 in are division next year
GO BROWNS
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I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
Well, I saw him desperately sticking to Jackson and I thought he was using him as a last resource. I didn't follow the news so you are probably right. Anyway, Marvin Lewis signed last year a 2 year contract extension and see how he's doing...
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I don't think John Harbaugh is on thin ice in Baltimore... didn't he just sign a four year extension?
Well, I saw him desperately sticking to Jackson and I thought he was using him as a last resource. I didn't follow the news so you are probably right. Anyway, Marvin Lewis signed last year a 2 year contract extension and see how he's doing...
Well, I saw him desperately sticking to Jackson and I thought he was using him as a last resource. I didn't follow the news so you are probably right. Anyway, Marvin Lewis signed last year a 2 year contract extension and see how he's doing...
I think he WAS on thin ice halfway through the season, but the end of the season turnaround bought him an extension.
I have my doubts about Jackson and his "ceiling", though.
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Hopefully Freddie grows into something a little bit more successful than the next Marty.
WSS
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