The official Terry Pluto thread
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HEY, TERRY: What is the problem with Genard Avery?
HEY, BRIAN: I’ve wondered the same thing until this past week. Then I began to figure it out. New defensive coordinator Steve Wilks prefers to play the game with two linebackers and five defensive backs. Joe Schobert is having a Pro Bowl year. Mack Wilson looks like a steal in the fifth round. They are the linebackers. For a while, Avery played there. Avery is probably best at defensive end, but the trade for Olivier Vernon filled the defensive end spot opposite Myles Garrett. But the main issue is only two linebackers. There is depth in case of injury. Lots of fans asked about the second-year player from Memphis.
Me: not sure that’s really the case. I just think the coaches like Chad Thomas better right now at DE. Avery has the reputation as a pass rush only kinda guy, and l simply think Wilks likes more multi-dimensional players than one trick ponies. My guess is we’ll continue to see him inactive until he shows improvement in other areas of defending or injuries force Wilks’ hand.
HEY, TERRY: What is the problem with Genard Avery?
HEY, BRIAN: I’ve wondered the same thing until this past week. Then I began to figure it out. New defensive coordinator Steve Wilks prefers to play the game with two linebackers and five defensive backs. Joe Schobert is having a Pro Bowl year. Mack Wilson looks like a steal in the fifth round. They are the linebackers. For a while, Avery played there. Avery is probably best at defensive end, but the trade for Olivier Vernon filled the defensive end spot opposite Myles Garrett. But the main issue is only two linebackers. There is depth in case of injury. Lots of fans asked about the second-year player from Memphis.
Me: not sure that’s really the case. I just think the coaches like Chad Thomas better right now at DE. Avery has the reputation as a pass rush only kinda guy, and l simply think Wilks likes more multi-dimensional players than one trick ponies. My guess is we’ll continue to see him inactive until he shows improvement in other areas of defending or injuries force Wilks’ hand.
The problem is the fucking "inactive list" rule. Why have guys on your 53 man roster and not be able to play them. That fucking stupid rule HAS to be eliminated.
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HEY, TERRY: What is the problem with Genard Avery?
HEY, BRIAN: I’ve wondered the same thing until this past week. Then I began to figure it out. New defensive coordinator Steve Wilks prefers to play the game with two linebackers and five defensive backs. Joe Schobert is having a Pro Bowl year. Mack Wilson looks like a steal in the fifth round. They are the linebackers. For a while, Avery played there. Avery is probably best at defensive end, but the trade for Olivier Vernon filled the defensive end spot opposite Myles Garrett. But the main issue is only two linebackers. There is depth in case of injury. Lots of fans asked about the second-year player from Memphis.
Me: not sure that’s really the case. I just think the coaches like Chad Thomas better right now at DE. Avery has the reputation as a pass rush only kinda guy, and l simply think Wilks likes more multi-dimensional players than one trick ponies. My guess is we’ll continue to see him inactive until he shows improvement in other areas of defending or injuries force Wilks’ hand.
The problem is the fucking "inactive list" rule. Why have guys on your 53 man roster and not be able to play them. That fucking stupid rule HAS to be eliminated.
The problem is the fucking "inactive list" rule. Why have guys on your 53 man roster and not be able to play them. That fucking stupid rule HAS to be eliminated.
Yes! The BROWNS and almost every other team have "umteen" guys on the injury report every week but you don't have free access to the in house replacements just sitting there.
And they are concerned about player health and safety but guys repeatedly play dinged up until they end up on the IR. Does this really make sense???
........edit add how about expanding the roster by 2 or 3, oh that won't fly. Guess why.

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What? Maybe the good ol' fashioned Midwestern work ethic.....and Baker working hard to get it right!
When I interviewed John Dorsey before the season, the Browns general manager wrote “6:15” on his office whiteboard.
He pointed to 6:15 and said that’s when Baker Mayfield arrives every day for work.
Sometimes, it’s earlier. But the Browns QB is there by 6:15 a.m. because that’s when Dorsey comes to the office........
.........Mayfield is facing the first rocky road of his pro career. I wondered if anything had changed with his work ethic.
I was told “Baker is more insatiable than ever” when it comes to winning and figuring out how to improve. The “6:15” still holds true.
In fact, the one concern the Browns had was Mayfield putting too much pressure on himself and overloading his mind in terms of preparation.
Mayfield’s personality can annoy some people. He can sound cocky. Some in the NFL are bothered because Mayfield was proclaimed an MVP candidate and a future star at the beginning of the season........
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I don't know about you guys but as a BROWNS fan I can live with that.

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BlinD Faith was one of the 1st super groups and most def. one of the best of the era of the great bands. Had To Cry Today for Ginger but not Ginger Baker Mayfield.
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Hey Terry, when are you going to address the elephant? Last year the coaching staff meshed. They were all fired. Maybe upper management has a screw loose. Kitchens is the mystery man. The rest of the league can't figure out why the Browns hired him and Cleveland writers acted like he was a hot commodity that would jump at the chance to replace Bellichek? How about an explanation for this odd judgement?
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Hey Terry, when are you going to address the elephant? Last year the coaching staff meshed. They were all fired. Maybe upper management has a screw loose. Kitchens is the mystery man. The rest of the league can't figure out why the Browns hired him and Cleveland writers acted like he was a hot commodity that would jump at the chance to replace Bellichek? How about an explanation for this odd judgement?
Hey Terry, when are you going to address the elephant? Last year the coaching staff meshed. They were all fired. Maybe upper management has a screw loose. Kitchens is the mystery man. The rest of the league can't figure out why the Browns hired him and Cleveland writers acted like he was a hot commodity that would jump at the chance to replace Bellichek? How about an explanation for this odd judgement?
Valid point. Maybe Williams with a better head coach than a defensive coordinator and maybe Freddie was a better offensive coordinator than to head coach.
Hopefully Freddie will learn on the job and the ship will eventually right itself. It really was a whole new team and will need time to get it together.
WSS
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Oh come on, Baker's filling in divots for Progressive.??
A man should take care of his own lawn.
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Good read, answers a lot of questions that we've been kicking around the past few weeks.......
......The Browns are only six games into the first Kitchens/Mayfield season. You don’t make changes at coach or QB at this point.
That’s especially true when Kitchens/Mayfield are the heart of what Dorsey imagined for the 2019 playoff-contending Browns. As he said at his press conference, the big goal for this season is to win the AFC North.
With 10 games left, that is a possibility.......
More details in the article.
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