***Official Browns Vs. Chargers Game Day Thread***
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Joe sucks.
Ummmmm.... no.
TBH, I think the pass heavy approach just isn’t justifiable.
Agree... I really want to see is us pound the rock with Hyde and whoever the H-back du jour is, and thus set up the PAP. Hyde is the back to do that.
Yeah, I guess that's the way to look at it. As one of our beat writers said, "The Cleveland defense picked a terrible day NOT to stop anybody."
There's a good day to NOT stop anybody?
Had to be Grossi or MKC.
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That Shmucking long TD Randall picked it off and that bitch WR just rips it from him on the ground and the motherShmucking refs give him the TD. Laughable.
I don't even count this one against Cleveland. Shmuck that Sheet. Refs should be fired, there is plenty of evidence biased officiating.
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Watch this Sheet on 50% speed, it's painful to watch again but afterwards you know the truth.
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Joe sucks.
Ummmmm.... no.
TBH, I think the pass heavy approach just isn’t justifiable.
Agree... I really want to see is us pound the rock with Hyde and whoever the H-back du jour is, and thus set up the PAP. Hyde is the back to do that.
Yeah, I guess that's the way to look at it. As one of our beat writers said, "The Cleveland defense picked a terrible day NOT to stop anybody."
There's a good day to NOT stop anybody?
Had to be Grossi or MKC.
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Joe sucks.
Ummmmm.... no.
TBH, I think the pass heavy approach just isn’t justifiable.
Agree... I really want to see is us pound the rock with Hyde and whoever the H-back du jour is, and thus set up the PAP. Hyde is the back to do that.
Yeah, I guess that's the way to look at it. As one of our beat writers said, "The Cleveland defense picked a terrible day NOT to stop anybody."
There's a good day to NOT stop anybody?
Had to be Grossi or MKC.
Agree... I really want to see is us pound the rock with Hyde and whoever the H-back du jour is, and thus set up the PAP. Hyde is the back to do that.
Why can’t we be like New England.? And get all the talented RBs involved?
Chubb seems way faster than expected and Duke is a straight up playmaker who’s not getting enough looks. Hyde is tough and I like him but they can mix it up and distribute the carries/touches a bit better.
is it really as simple as “Chubb can’t block”? Because he sure can run.
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Agree... I really want to see is us pound the rock with Hyde and whoever the H-back du jour is, and thus set up the PAP. Hyde is the back to do that.
Why can’t we be like New England.? And get all the talented RBs involved?
Chubb seems way faster than expected and Duke is a straight up playmaker who’s not getting enough looks. Hyde is tough and I like him but they can mix it up and distribute the carries/touches a bit better.
is it really as simple as “Chubb can’t block”? Because he sure can run.
Why can’t we be like New England.? And get all the talented RBs involved?
Chubb seems way faster than expected and Duke is a straight up playmaker who’s not getting enough looks. Hyde is tough and I like him but they can mix it up and distribute the carries/touches a bit better.
is it really as simple as “Chubb can’t block”? Because he sure can run.
Chubb is way more explosive than I expected, to be honest.
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Thanks... Now we need Njoku covered.
Kid played a good game AND for the first time he was the tall, red-zone target we've been craving.
Yes he did. One of our few bright spots. You know what? I really liked that fade route TD. Like I said earlier, I'd prefer to pound that in from so short, but I envision that Njoku fade being something we can run a lot more. It was timed perfectly, he literally snagged the ball and somehow transferred the ball to his one hand like he was holding an orange. If we can get that type of match up again, it's definitely worth running more.
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I've counted OVER 13 BLOCKS in the back that resulted in extra yards for the Chargers and NOT A SINGLE FLAG... it's maddening. We should have just teed off on Rivers and ended his career.
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I've counted OVER 13 BLOCKS in the back that resulted in extra yards for the Chargers and NOT A SINGLE FLAG... it's maddening. We should have just teed off on Rivers and ended his career.
I've counted OVER 13 BLOCKS in the back that resulted in extra yards for the Chargers and NOT A SINGLE FLAG... it's maddening. We should have just teed off on Rivers and ended his career.
Are you counting ones inside "the box"?
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I painfully rewatched the game and it's maddening to see all of our chances. We spent the majority of the first half in Charger territory! I guess I knew that already, but to see it again is just...just...UGH! I mean, it was 7-3 deep into the first half. Man, what an obnoxious game for us, and then we all know what happened in the 2nd half. But I'll tell you something, as bad as the game was, it really had the opportunity to be a lot closer, at least early. We had chances, plenty of them. I'm thinking we convert a good amount of these next week.
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I painfully rewatched the game and it's maddening to see all of our chances. We spent the majority of the first half in Charger territory! I guess I knew that already, but to see it again is just...just...UGH! I mean, it was 7-3 deep into the first half. Man, what an obnoxious game for us, and then we all know what happened in the 2nd half. But I'll tell you something, as bad as the game was, it really had the opportunity to be a lot closer, at least early. We had chances, plenty of them. I'm thinking we convert a good amount of these next week.
I'm thinking we convert a good amount of these next week.
Who is this anyway? I demand you release jiggins from whatever dungeon you have placed him in.?
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I'm thinking we convert a good amount of these next week.
Who is this anyway? I demand you release jiggins from whatever dungeon you have placed him in.?
Who is this anyway? I demand you release jiggins from whatever dungeon you have placed him in.?
It puts the lotion on the jiggins or it gets the hose again.
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Watch this Sheet on 50% speed, it's painful to watch again but afterwards you know the truth.
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Are you counting ones inside "the box"?
They were on outside runs out in the flat, on punt returns and well into our second level on LBs. They were virtually on EVERY big play, they were holding all over the place, they nearly pulled off one of our DLs jerseys on one play- had half his belly out. The Chargers cheated and got away with it...
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I'm thinking we convert a good amount of these next week.
Who is this anyway? I demand you release jiggins from whatever dungeon you have placed him in.?
Who is this anyway? I demand you release jiggins from whatever dungeon you have placed him in.?
I was out of my mind last week. There's really no excuse for it. I live in the Florida panhandle and had a monstrous hurricane that somehow Mapquested its route directly to my house. I was a bundle of anxiety and was probably just let my emotions get the best of me. The negative douche bag isn't who I am. The good news is, we came through the storm relatively unscathed, certainly way better than the people to the southwest of us on the beach. I had a giant tree fall in my yard about 3 inches from my house, and we didn't have power for days, but we're safe and sound now.
Anyways, we're playing the worst secondary in the league that gives up almost an 80% completion rate. I know our receivers are beyond thin, but if there was EVER a game where they might be open, THIS is the one. Of course, we also have to CATCH the ball, but that's another story, LOL. We need to score touchdowns, not bog down in the opposition's territory again.
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They need LBs. Collins doesn't always play hard. Schobert gets blocked and gets tackles yards down the field instead of in the backfield. Nobody can cover sideline to sideline.
I'd say Williams. He's been in CLE longer. He needs more talent to run the scheme he runs. He doesn't seem to adapt to his scheme to the talent he has now. All the blitzing teams have caught on and he still blitz. Guys like Collins and Ojunobi should be benched for their effort. You can't win in the NFL if you can't stop the run.
The offense looked better during garbage time when they actually used Duke. Nice TD catch by Njoku.
I think it starts up front with the DLine, which didn’t show up, and was obliterated by those end arounds, which btw, was probably some kind of presnap adjustment installed in their offense. Because I’d seriously doubt they just kept calling an “end-around” like that. Phillip Rivers studies tape everyday in his van on the way to practice, and it showed. We looked like a college team against the big boys.
I do agree, that for this current defense to work, we’d need some kind of stud LB who is unblockable and can run a 4.2 40 lol
I think it starts up front with the DLine, which didn’t show up, and was obliterated by those end arounds, which btw, was probably some kind of presnap adjustment installed in their offense. Because I’d seriously doubt they just kept calling an “end-around” like that. Phillip Rivers studies tape everyday in his van on the way to practice, and it showed. We looked like a college team against the big boys.
I do agree, that for this current defense to work, we’d need some kind of stud LB who is unblockable and can run a 4.2 40 lol
Talent lacks on the DL too. I guess Shelton and Naasib are missed. CLE played well against the run last year. GW should have adjusted then. It was ridiculous hearing the WR talk about CLE had the same coverage 2 plays in a row so they ran the same deep pass play twice. I seen too many weeks now RBs against CLE looking like Pro Bowlers especially when they get to the outside.
I'm hoping they get Devin White in the draft. He'd be for the D what Baker is for the O.
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Of course it is painful to watch: 9 mins at half speed? 18 minutes of slowmotion? Take me to Guantanamo instead!
4 touchdowns. I counted 4 DROPPED touchdowns against the Chargers. The Callaway bomb, the Ratley flea-flicker, then Callaway dropped a deep square in on a PERFECT pass WITH a designed blocker in front of him around the 15 yard line, and not to be outdone, Ratley then drops maybe an EASIER touchdown on a post route that Baker basically floated to him. I'm not sure all of these drops will be on the "highlight video", but they are on the one below. 4 dropped touchdowns. Two of them rather easy. Suppose we catch HALF of them...what does 14 points do to the final score? Do we win, severely doubtful, but you never know how big plays alter the landscape of the game. At any rate, the game is CLOSER, and we even get some things to cheer about.
4....dropped....touchdowns.
I'll be the first one to say John Dorsey has done a lot of good, no doubt in my mind. But he should've found a way to talk Hue Jackson off the ledge regarding Gordon. We put up with SO MUCH, and we couldn't hold on a little longer? We have a ROOKIE QB. He needs all the help he can get, and we're playing Ratley, Callaway, Perriman, and Landry?! Ahhhhhh! This game is 4 drops away from being a fun, thrilling, shootout.
I know many of you have different opinions about Gordon, and I respect them and completely see your side of the issue. I really do. And I'm not trying to start another Gordon debate, but what hurts a team more? Unreliability from a potential super star, or unreliability from guys who won't make the big plays?
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