Is anyone else sick of how we get talked to from ownership and staff?
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so someone at least partially understands where im coming from. I cant believe people can watch jimmy john blow it out their butt like that and say ah well should be fine we'll have a fine coach next season this dirsey guy he's a real straight one he is.....
god this is some kind of inception like time loop or something....
so someone at least partially understands where im coming from. I cant believe people can watch jimmy john blow it out their butt like that and say ah well should be fine we'll have a fine coach next season this dirsey guy he's a real straight one he is.....
god this is some kind of inception like time loop or something....
Deja Vu all over again
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so someone at least partially understands where im coming from. I cant believe people can watch jimmy john blow it out their butt like that and say ah well should be fine we'll have a fine coach next season this dirsey guy he's a real straight one he is.....
god this is some kind of inception like time loop or something....
Deja Vu all over again
Deja Vu all over again
What are you talking about!? We're headed to the Superbowl within 5 years!!
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I just watched Jimmy john's presser, and those two guys just don't strike me as football people. I am not hopeful about them turning things around. It's always this political speech, just pure boolshit. Catch phrases we've heard for damn near 20 years. I wanted to hear WHAT THE FUK happned between Haley and Hue AND WHY THE FUK IT WAS ALLOWED TO FESTER since we all kind of saw this sht budding in preseason. Just something ain't right with this whole organization. It's like Jimmys a mole from Pgh meant to keep the Browns 2 easy outs for the steelers.
So.. I guess if your wife divorced you.. It would be ok for her to tell the world why your such a kinky fruit cake who , sucks in bed and , she can tell everyone what a dead beat dad you are... Thats basically what your asking Jimmy and John to do , instead of letting Hue and TH save face and move on with theyre careers... Yeah , we would all like to be flies on the wall for that juicy exchange.. I commend GW for not taking pot shots at Hue and Todd.. And ditto for Jimmy and John. That certainly was not the Forum to do so... People aren't perfect.. And People due make mistakes and resurrect themselves.... Be happy that they stopped the bleeding before it got any worse.. The main focus now is to put that behind us.. and focus on Sunday... After watching GW's presser... I'm on board.. I have a good feeling about this...
So.. I guess if your wife divorced you.. It would be ok for her to tell the world why your such a kinky fruit cake who , sucks in bed and , she can tell everyone what a dead beat dad you are... Thats basically what your asking Jimmy and John to do , instead of letting Hue and TH save face and move on with theyre careers... Yeah , we would all like to be flies on the wall for that juicy exchange.. I commend GW for not taking pot shots at Hue and Todd.. And ditto for Jimmy and John. That certainly was not the Forum to do so... People aren't perfect.. And People due make mistakes and resurrect themselves.... Be happy that they stopped the bleeding before it got any worse.. The main focus now is to put that behind us.. and focus on Sunday... After watching GW's presser... I'm on board.. I have a good feeling about this...
i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
Of sll the firings its the chudzinski one that still haunts me cause that guy was a native fan growing up. And thats almost what i think it'll take to win here....people native to this area who give more than a couple fuks. Its another "job" for every other coach and player who come here. It honestly might take staff and players from the area or who were raised as browns fans, to win here.
so yeah i kind of now want details on why mangini HAD to be fired after developing one ofvthe best run games in the nfl, and every staff after that. Cause what i heard in that presser was what i heard after each and every one of those firings. I cant beleive more of u arent galled by that.
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and ftr dorsey for some reason doesnt pass my smell test. I dont know if its the sweatshirt over the collared shirt thing.....or the sound of his voice.....i dunno
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and ftr dorsey for some reason doesnt pass my smell test. I dont know if its the sweatshirt over the collared shirt thing.....or the sound of his voice.....i dunno
and ftr dorsey for some reason doesnt pass my smell test. I dont know if its the sweatshirt over the collared shirt thing.....or the sound of his voice.....i dunno
Yeah..the guy has only had success drafting and building teams so why should you think he's any good. I'm sure you could do a better job if just given the chance.
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and ftr dorsey for some reason doesnt pass my smell test. I dont know if its the sweatshirt over the collared shirt thing.....or the sound of his voice.....i dunno
Yeah..the guy has only had success drafting and building teams so why should you think he's any good. I'm sure you could do a better job if just given the chance.
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Look, this is stuff that goes on with every NFL team. The Cowboys just fired their offensive line coach, did you see Jerry Jones come out and say "well we had to fire this guy-because...." ?
Seriously- some of the things that go on and are said when coaches are let go is political correctness. Would it make you feel any better if Haslam had come out and said "Yeah, I really f**ked up hiring this loser Hue. His gameday coaching sucked, couldn't do clock management worth a damn, his play calling blew dead worms, and he couldn't recognize QB talent if it walked up to him and bit him in the azz."
It's at times like these and some of the posters here and their moronic "insights" and opinions that make me really question Browns fans. We should be smarter than this. I just simply can't figure it out.
It's at times like these and some of the posters here and their moronic "insights" and opinions that make me really question Browns fans. We should be smarter than this. I just simply can't figure it out.
Hey, if we were smart we would have dropped this team decades ago and chosen another team to root for. ?
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It's at times like these and some of the posters here and their moronic "insights" and opinions that make me really question Browns fans. We should be smarter than this. I just simply can't figure it out.
Hey, if we were smart we would have dropped this team decades ago and chosen another team to root for. ?
Hey, if we were smart we would have dropped this team decades ago and chosen another team to root for. ?
I guess that's an option if you chose the team.....but in my case, the team and the city chose me. It's where I'm from so as long as the team is in Cleveland, that's the team I"m rooting for through the good and the bad.
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It's at times like these and some of the posters here and their moronic "insights" and opinions that make me really question Browns fans. We should be smarter than this. I just simply can't figure it out.
Hey, if we were smart we would have dropped this team decades ago and chosen another team to root for. ?
Hey, if we were smart we would have dropped this team decades ago and chosen another team to root for. ?
And some of us are so smart we show up late and stay even later.?
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So.. I guess if your wife divorced you.. It would be ok for her to tell the world why your such a kinky fruit cake who , sucks in bed and , she can tell everyone what a dead beat dad you are... Thats basically what your asking Jimmy and John to do , instead of letting Hue and TH save face and move on with theyre careers... Yeah , we would all like to be flies on the wall for that juicy exchange.. I commend GW for not taking pot shots at Hue and Todd.. And ditto for Jimmy and John. That certainly was not the Forum to do so... People aren't perfect.. And People due make mistakes and resurrect themselves.... Be happy that they stopped the bleeding before it got any worse.. The main focus now is to put that behind us.. and focus on Sunday... After watching GW's presser... I'm on board.. I have a good feeling about this...
i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
Of sll the firings its the chudzinski one that still haunts me cause that guy was a native fan growing up. And thats almost what i think it'll take to win here....people native to this area who give more than a couple fuks. Its another "job" for every other coach and player who come here. It honestly might take staff and players from the area or who were raised as browns fans, to win here.
so yeah i kind of now want details on why mangini HAD to be fired after developing one ofvthe best run games in the nfl, and every staff after that. Cause what i heard in that presser was what i heard after each and every one of those firings. I cant beleive more of u arent galled by that.
i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
As has been pointed out to you already, The team or the organization owes you nothing at all. And you're holding your breath waiting for an explanation, I suggest you take a deep breath and relax because it ain't happening ever. They don't owe you anything at all.
You thinking you're owed something because you're a fan of a team is laughable. You should probably find a new team to root for and guess what, that team doesn't owe you squat either and when that team fires a coach or a GM, they aren't going to give you the whole story either.
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So.. I guess if your wife divorced you.. It would be ok for her to tell the world why your such a kinky fruit cake who , sucks in bed and , she can tell everyone what a dead beat dad you are... Thats basically what your asking Jimmy and John to do , instead of letting Hue and TH save face and move on with theyre careers... Yeah , we would all like to be flies on the wall for that juicy exchange.. I commend GW for not taking pot shots at Hue and Todd.. And ditto for Jimmy and John. That certainly was not the Forum to do so... People aren't perfect.. And People due make mistakes and resurrect themselves.... Be happy that they stopped the bleeding before it got any worse.. The main focus now is to put that behind us.. and focus on Sunday... After watching GW's presser... I'm on board.. I have a good feeling about this...
i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
Of sll the firings its the chudzinski one that still haunts me cause that guy was a native fan growing up. And thats almost what i think it'll take to win here....people native to this area who give more than a couple fuks. Its another "job" for every other coach and player who come here. It honestly might take staff and players from the area or who were raised as browns fans, to win here.
so yeah i kind of now want details on why mangini HAD to be fired after developing one ofvthe best run games in the nfl, and every staff after that. Cause what i heard in that presser was what i heard after each and every one of those firings. I cant beleive more of u arent galled by that.
i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
I want to Fuyuck Kaley Cuoco. We can't always get what we want.
Of sll the firings its the chudzinski one that still haunts me cause that guy was a native fan growing up. And thats almost what i think it'll take to win here....people native to this area who give more than a couple fuks. Its another "job" for every other coach and player who come here. It honestly might take staff and players from the area or who were raised as browns fans, to win here.
And who is that guy supposed to be? McDaniels was mentioned elsewhere, born in Barberton grew up on North Canton. Who else you got in mind?
so yeah i kind of now want details on why mangini HAD to be fired after developing one ofvthe best run games in the nfl, and every staff after that. Cause what i heard in that presser was what i heard after each and every one of those firings. I cant beleive more of u arent galled by that.
Well....with what we got running things....you better get used to a bushel full of lies every day.
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i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
As has been pointed out to you already, The team or the organization owes you nothing at all. And you're holding your breath waiting for an explanation, I suggest you take a deep breath and relax because it ain't happening ever. They don't owe you anything at all.
You thinking you're owed something because you're a fan of a team is laughable. You should probably find a new team to root for and guess what, that team doesn't owe you squat either and when that team fires a coach or a GM, they aren't going to give you the whole story either.
As has been pointed out to you already, The team or the organization owes you nothing at all.
1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
2) uve pointed out alot if things that are invalid and/or make no sense. But thank u for pointing out to me you've pointed out useless stats and facts to me in the past.
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i wanna be clear, and i said earlier, thst i want hue and th's side as well. I want the whole fukking story for why this thing has gone into the shtter yet again. 20 years of fail has just run its course with me. I dont care if none of us ownng the team, i dont. We're still owed an explanation for why we cant bringbin a coach that can last past 3 years and is sometimes gone after 1.
I want to Fuyuck Kaley Cuoco. We can't always get what we want.
Of sll the firings its the chudzinski one that still haunts me cause that guy was a native fan growing up. And thats almost what i think it'll take to win here....people native to this area who give more than a couple fuks. Its another "job" for every other coach and player who come here. It honestly might take staff and players from the area or who were raised as browns fans, to win here.
And who is that guy supposed to be? McDaniels was mentioned elsewhere, born in Barberton grew up on North Canton. Who else you got in mind?
so yeah i kind of now want details on why mangini HAD to be fired after developing one ofvthe best run games in the nfl, and every staff after that. Cause what i heard in that presser was what i heard after each and every one of those firings. I cant beleive more of u arent galled by that.
Well....with what we got running things....you better get used to a bushel full of lies every day.
thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
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I just watched Jimmy john's presser, and those two guys just don't strike me as football people. I am not hopeful about them turning things around. It's always this political speech, just pure boolshit. Catch phrases we've heard for damn near 20 years. I wanted to hear WHAT THE FUK happned between Haley and Hue AND WHY THE FUK IT WAS ALLOWED TO FESTER since we all kind of saw this sht budding in preseason. Just something ain't right with this whole organization. It's like Jimmys a mole from Pgh meant to keep the Browns 2 easy outs for the steelers.
Of course it was bullshit. So is every press conference that's ever been held. No one is going to tell you what actually went on. John Dorsey has had success in the NFL drafting football players. That's his only job. I don't care if he doesn't answer a question in a press conference again.
Williams refused to answer questions about what was going on as well. Do you hate him too?
Of course it was cowpoop. So is every press conference that's ever been held. No one is going to tell you what actually went on. John Dorsey has had success in the NFL drafting football players. That's his only job. I don't care if he doesn't answer a question in a press conference again.
Williams refused to answer questions about what was going on as well. Do you hate him too?
Ahhhh yes a press conference rehearsed PR at it's finest.
So why would anyone be upset at anything they say?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
As has been pointed out to you already, The team or the organization owes you nothing at all.
1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
2) uve pointed out alot if things that are invalid and/or make no sense. But thank u for pointing out to me you've pointed out useless stats and facts to me in the past.
1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
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No...they don't owe "us" anything.
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Of course it was cowpoop. So is every press conference that's ever been held. No one is going to tell you what actually went on. John Dorsey has had success in the NFL drafting football players. That's his only job. I don't care if he doesn't answer a question in a press conference again.
Williams refused to answer questions about what was going on as well. Do you hate him too?
Ahhhh yes a press conference rehearsed PR at it's finest.
So why would anyone be upset at anything they say?
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thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
It might be her. While most photos of her that I have seen where she is nude are likely photoshopped, I don't think this one is.
Also, another that I don't think is is a very early photo:
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thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
It might be her. While most photos of her that I have seen where she is nude are likely photoshopped, I don't think this one is.
Also, another that I don't think is is a very early photo:
It might be her. While most photos of her that I have seen where she is nude are likely photoshopped, I don't think this one is.
Also, another that I don't think is is a very early photo:
They can do wonders with an air brushs however some people just don't need them.
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As has been pointed out to you already, The team or the organization owes you nothing at all.
1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
2) uve pointed out alot if things that are invalid and/or make no sense. But thank u for pointing out to me you've pointed out useless stats and facts to me in the past.
1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
2) uve pointed out alot if things that are invalid and/or make no sense. But thank u for pointing out to me you've pointed out useless stats and facts to me in the past.
Whatever- you're entitled to your opinion, FWIW, you're beating a dead horse. Keep sticking your head in the sand how things work in the NFL. it's not happening. I'll give you a research project. Find a quote from an owner of any NFL team who after firing a coach or GM has ever said more than "We thank _____ for his time with the team, and wish him well in the future". As Tour pointed out (you weren't listening) to say anything more would be inviting a lawsuit.
thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
You'd be surprised...
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1) they dont owe "me", they owe "us"...
2) uve pointed out alot if things that are invalid and/or make no sense. But thank u for pointing out to me you've pointed out useless stats and facts to me in the past.
Whatever- you're entitled to your opinion, FWIW, you're beating a dead horse. Keep sticking your head in the sand how things work in the NFL. it's not happening. I'll give you a research project. Find a quote from an owner of any NFL team who after firing a coach or GM has ever said more than "We thank _____ for his time with the team, and wish him well in the future". As Tour pointed out (you weren't listening) to say anything more would be inviting a lawsuit.
thats not really kaley was it? that was a photoshop job right?
You'd be surprised...
Whatever- you're entitled to your opinion, FWIW, you're beating a dead horse. Keep sticking your head in the sand how things work in the NFL.
I KNOW thats not how the nfl works, i never thought otherwise....my point is after 20 years of this i dont care, this isnt normal anymore. After this many hc changes in such a short time its my contention that "something" has to give....we lose, start over, lose again, rinse repeat. We have no continuity in schemes, players dont want to come here because of it...this is a problem. And every 2 years we get told the EXACT same sht.......so, zero accountability ensues because they know they can roll out the same sentences every 2 years....and we as a fan base accept it. So it will go on. Forever. Or until jimmy sells
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