***Official Browns Vs. Chiefs Game Day Thread***
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I think its a combination of both.
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these 2pt conversions.....
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can we get baker killed on 2pt convo's? id like that thank you. God get him out of there. Slip a couple bills to the concussion specialists and get him in the protocol
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You're welcomed to go back and look at the half game breakdown (every play) on the Bedlam game this past season.
I'm hoping Mayfield becomes the QB we desperately need but he was certainly not my first choice. And you're seeing some of those reasons. That said, I do believe a shift in offensive philosophy would maximize his skill set and it's a similar shift that KC is running.
Yeah man I read through a lot of that stuff to include yours and it's great work. I'm not ever one to defend a dude outright but that sack is a perfect example of what I see a lot. Baker rightly saw pressure and audibles to slide protection to that side. He still gets a free rusher on him, and I'm not sure what you can possibly expect him to do.
Just seems that way a lot on routes these guys run
Yeah man I read through a lot of that stuff to include yours and it's great work. I'm not ever one to defend a dude outright but that sack is a perfect example of what I see a lot. Baker rightly saw pressure and audibles to slide protection to that side. He still gets a free rusher on him, and I'm not sure what you can possibly expect him to do.
Just seems that way a lot on routes these guys run
Part of it is the routes and the receivers, a part is the coaches and there are times when - as a QB - you're going to be responsible for that free rusher which means you're throwing hot.
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sometjings wrong with baker...get him out.
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god we've seen this so many times. This kid is rattled. He's overthrowing wide open guys. Thats like the 5th pass he's sailed today, maybe more
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he has no deep accuracy and timing right now
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he's hitching his throws, this is classic shellshocked qb syndrome
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is baker legit concussed? did i just srsly hear him call the play out?
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and then they still threw it to duke. fooling no one
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sigh
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I haven't seen this many missed tackles since my nephew's 7th grade football game. My gosh my grandmother could gain 15 yards on these guys. And Clevfan4life.........we get it.....you want Mayfield benched......it ain't gonna happen. I think he's doing a good job with what he has to work with. You don't learn and get better sitting on a bench.
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Baker still overthrows to too many open receivers. Look at Mahomes, his throws are right on time and this is only his 2nd year. Granted, he has a much better team than we do. But you can tell from his release, he is much better than Baker. I don't see Baker ever being as good as Brees, but he's much better than what we had. We definitely need to draft a #1 receiver next year or pick one up in FA. Then we can spend our draft picks on the D and O Tackles. Let's get the D right where we can stop teams from scoring. Not to far away.
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Baker still overthrows to too many open receivers. Look at Mahomes, his throws are right on time and this is only his 2nd year. Granted, he has a much better team than we do. But you can tell from his release, he is much better than Baker. I don't see Baker ever being as good as Brees, but he's much better than what we had. We definitely need to draft a #1 receiver next year or pick one up in FA. Then we can spend our draft picks on the D and O Tackles. Let's get the D right where we can stop teams from scoring. Not to far away.
Baker still overthrows to too many open receivers. Look at Mahomes, his throws are right on time and this is only his 2nd year. Granted, he has a much better team than we do. But you can tell from his release, he is much better than Baker. I don't see Baker ever being as good as Brees, but he's much better than what we had. We definitely need to draft a #1 receiver next year or pick one up in FA. Then we can spend our draft picks on the D and O Tackles. Let's get the D right where we can stop teams from scoring. Not to far away.
We need a lot. Receivers, OL, DL, secondary.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Not 1 player on this Defense should even be in the NFL, all worthless pints of piss. Where you at Myles? Fukn Bitch, Joke of a team. Here comes another turnover from baker or Chubb, can't even punt the Shmucking ball right.
Not 1 player on this Defense should even be in the NFL, all worthless pints of piss. Where you at Myles? Fukn Bitch, Joke of a team. Here comes another turnover from baker or Chubb, can't even punt the Shmucking ball right.
We can tell you would be so much better and are way tougher than anyone.
You sir could only be compared to LT.
WHAT A JOKE
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Baker still overthrows to too many open receivers. Look at Mahomes, his throws are right on time and this is only his 2nd year. Granted, he has a much better team than we do. But you can tell from his release, he is much better than Baker. I don't see Baker ever being as good as Brees, but he's much better than what we had. We definitely need to draft a #1 receiver next year or pick one up in FA. Then we can spend our draft picks on the D and O Tackles. Let's get the D right where we can stop teams from scoring. Not to far away.
Baker still overthrows to too many open receivers. Look at Mahomes, his throws are right on time and this is only his 2nd year. Granted, he has a much better team than we do. But you can tell from his release, he is much better than Baker. I don't see Baker ever being as good as Brees, but he's much better than what we had. We definitely need to draft a #1 receiver next year or pick one up in FA. Then we can spend our draft picks on the D and O Tackles. Let's get the D right where we can stop teams from scoring. Not to far away.
some receivers were getting held - no calls. Why should Baker have faith in his offensive line?
Did you see Njoku completely and stupidly whiff on blocking the outside blitzer? What is our LT supposed to do, trade off his guy and try to run out past Njoku to block that guy? What the....
Mahomes had quick get open guys, Mahomes had far, far better blocking a lot of the time - including a hell of a lot of arm locking/dragging/holding that wasn't called, Hahomes is NOT A ROOKIE, Mayfield doesn't have a Tyreek Hill, Mayfield doesn't have a Kelce at TE. Mahomes was playing against a zone after Ward went out, and the Browns don't do a zone well, ....
The Browns don't have a #` wr on the roster. just a dumb point whining about Baker, and comparing him to a second year player with a stable offense and a ton of excellent talent around him.
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That does not excuse this poor tackling nor the fact that wide receivers are wide open by 5 to 10 yards
Tackles maybe but scheme yes. The depleted secondary neccesitates playing a softer zone. Unless you want hill burning you for a 50 yard TD the underneath stuff has to be given. It blows but theres no good solution.
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so, goofball Jamie Collins lopes out to cover Kelce, Kelce dips to the left...and Collins goes right, guessing.
then he lopes to try to follow Kelce on a big play.
again and again, Collins couldn't care less about playing football.
Trade him.
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