This is just crazy. . .

stillmotion

Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward

vs.

Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert

Two guys that "love football", compared to two guys who couldn't care less about football.

I remember saying how picking someone that loved football was important for farmer. Then BAM, Johnny is wasted drinking champagne on a swan and Justin Gilbert has no effort to try.

We're on the other side of it all now. Denzel Ward is balling out, Baker is dedicated, works hard, and has the ability to be a great QB, Black Uncle Fester is no longer in the way to crush our dreams with his bad clock management.

The times are changin' and it's time to be optimistic.

But let's just agree Ray Farmer had to be the worst GM of all time.

Canton Dawg

mjp28

@canton-dawg said:

Oh yeah, and the beat goes on today at 1 pm on FOX!

medicineman

@the-gipper said:

Quit being a dumbass what it means is that we have some real young talent on this team now that is a good omen for the future.

What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

The Gipper

@medicineman said:

What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

When did you Never mind. Not worth responding to

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

When did you Never mind. Not worth responding to

Exactly, no coach is going to come in and want "his" QB. Especially one who was drafted #1 overall. You play the hand you're dealt- and Dorsey will be doing the dealing...

Tour2ma

@medicineman said:

You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft?

Is this a trick question?

Flugel

@tour2ma said:

Is this a trick question?

I see a little bit of this and a little bit of that here:

medicineman

@tour2ma said:

Is this a trick question?

Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

bjh2130

You can likely add another one this week just don't know if it'll be Baker or Chubb.

LondonBrown

Has to be Chubb

Tour2ma

Can't be co-winners?

@medicineman said:

Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

Day 3 doesn't count...

The Gipper

@medicineman said:

Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already

medicineman

@the-gipper said:

Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already

I meant by building a team. We have players but have no team. We need guys who been together for 3 or more seasons together, build a franchise.

ATOM

@medicineman said:

What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

damn dude go root for buffalo

medicineman

@atom said:

damn dude go root for buffalo

I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out

TexasAg1969

@medicineman said:

I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out

Congratulations! You have won the BB Participation Award ? . Wear it proudly to the next game.?️‍️?

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

@medicineman said:

Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

medicineman

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

Unsympathetic

@medicineman said:

I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1

If we're doing decent without a #1 even though we pay someone like a #1 then... we don't need one. We have too many actual needs on DL and OL before wasting a #1 pick on a luxury who touches the ball 6 plays a game.