Kitchens And Williams
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Gotta LOVE Kitchens. He's the perfect OC for the Browns offense.
Gotta agree. A lot of that is also due to some good head coaching. Gregg has some input for the offensive coordinator, then let’s him go. Work with Baker, open things up and such....that’s a good combination when you have coaching and players on the same page. And as much as I like Freddie, I just don’t think he’s all that without a good boss
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Dorsey said that he will not address the HC situation until the season is over. And he has stuck to that. Everyone else wants to put words in Dorsey’s mouth. He’s remained silent
read somewhere, Dorsey will have a presser Monday morning 9am..kinda think Haslam will be sitting to his left. the less Jimma's chitletts move the better..Baker in his best Dorsey sweater to his right would be awesome
read somewhere, Dorsey will have a presser Monday morning 9am..kinda think Haslam will be sitting to his left. the less Jimma's chitletts move the better..Baker in his best Dorsey sweater to his right would be awesome
actually i think having williams to his right would bode better for the team
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read somewhere, Dorsey will have a presser Monday morning 9am..kinda think Haslam will be sitting to his left. the less Jimma's chitletts move the better..Baker in his best Dorsey sweater to his right would be awesome
actually i think having williams to his right would bode better for the team
actually i think having williams to his right would bode better for the team
Good idea! That would say a lot. And the Haslams can watch at home like me
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Good idea! That would say a lot. And the Haslams can watch at home like me
exactly the less we see of them the better
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But what does that entail?
Haslam walks into Dorsey's office and says, "I don't want you to hire your own coach. I want Williams as HC and Kitchens as OC."
Then Dorsey walks into Williams' office and says, "You can be the HC but you can't hire your own OC. It has to be Kitchens."
How do ya go about it? Without it being a shotgun marriage?
Quit acting like Tony Grossi... I saw that on the Red Zone and wanted to choke him...
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About Gregg Williams, he came up through the coaching tree of Buddy Ryan who was a pretty good defensive coach. Rex Ryan became a coach because of Buddy Ryan’s penis. One is a coach, the other is a dick
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered "anything close" to a frontrunner for the Browns' full-time job.
This isn't a surprise — Williams was never more than a placeholder. The Browns have had a second half turnaround under OC Freddie Kitchens, but there's no mandate to keep Kitchens or Williams under the new coaching staff. Williams won't struggle to resurface in another defensive coordinator role this offseason.hope this not true i get bad feeling we are gonna go after gase or mcdanial -
Lincoln Riley coaching is losing to saben. A failed nfl coach.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered "anything close" to a frontrunner for the Browns' full-time job.
This isn't a surprise — Williams was never more than a placeholder. The Browns have had a second half turnaround under OC Freddie Kitchens, but there's no mandate to keep Kitchens or Williams under the new coaching staff. Williams won't struggle to resurface in another defensive coordinator role this offseason.hope this not true i get bad feeling we are gonna go after gase or mcdanialNFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered "anything close" to a frontrunner for the Browns' full-time job.
This isn't a surprise — Williams was never more than a placeholder. The Browns have had a second half turnaround under OC Freddie Kitchens, but there's no mandate to keep Kitchens or Williams under the new coaching staff. Williams won't struggle to resurface in another defensive coordinator role this offseason.hope this not true i get bad feeling we are gonna go after gase or mcdanialYou watch those guys? Birds of a feather.
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And once again, not one person that is associated with the team says anything. This is just one mans opinion. A stupid one at that. Green Bay has been talking to people and yet Dorsey has this pretty much on the back burner as he said he would. Tomorrow will let us know. Dorsey seems like a very good judge of talent and character.
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Lincoln Riley coaching is losing to saben. A failed nfl coach.
As I said before the game, the little fraud 12 (can't even get the real number right) is not used to defense. Game was really over @ 28-0. And a shortstop (which is what he should be) pumped a little life with his legs, not the arm which is not NFL level. Just say no to Lincoln. Has no idea how to run an NFL level defense and has had a passer and a runner to score for him behind some talent in the OL.
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According to the PD and all the others. Blake is DC with input from Gregg as Freddy is OC with input from Gregg. Williams is an experienced head coach and shows it
That's the same way I've understood it. He's been on a learning curve where less and less input from his father is required. It almost feels like yesterday when Blake was an All State player from Western NY. He was an absolute stud on both sides of the ball with leadership qualities and instincts destined to make him an ideal football coach... And here we are - what it is man....
I don't know about anyone else but I'd HATE to see them put all the progress, chemistry and continuity building here up in smoke with Lincoln Riley or even the Bruce Arians who had to leave coaching because stress wasn't good for his heart disease. Regardless of what happens today - to knee jerk Gregg Williams out of town is going to piss off A LOT of players that stayed the course because of him. Hard to underestimate. Right now - we've become a recruiting attraction for veteran FAs. When they talk to the guys that LOVE to play for Gregg Williams - that will help to close the deal on some important signings for next season.
McCarthy did a nice job developing Rodgers many moons ago. That said, nobody has more Rookie of the Week honors than Baker this year. Kitchens is doing a great job especially knowing he isn't being micro-managed or receiving a complete lack of trust from Williams. Some will say why not make Kitchens the HC? First, how LONG has he even been an OC here? Second, how often do Coordinators ace their first HC opportunity inclusive of Belicheck here (only 1 winning season in 5 years, but 0-3 vrs Pitt in that 1 season). If that's not a good example, Romeo Crennel, Lindy Infante, Wade Wilson, and Norv Turner didn't ace any of their HC opportunities (but were excellent Coordinators for more than 1 team).
Again, why hurry to change what just finally pleased our fan base and restored faith in a lot of fans that never thought it would be possible again? As much as I love a lot of things Dorsey has done here - we're 1 bad move away from feeling like we're in check mate again. No FREAKIN thanks! And I don't feel like saying FREAKIN if you know what I mean...
If we get rathoused today - you never read this...
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According to the PD and all the others. Blake is DC with input from Gregg as Freddy is OC with input from Gregg. Williams is an experienced head coach and shows it
That's the same way I've understood it. He's been on a learning curve where less and less input from his father is required. It almost feels like yesterday when Blake was an All State player from Western NY. He was an absolute stud on both sides of the ball with leadership qualities and instincts destined to make him an ideal football coach... And here we are - what it is man....
I don't know about anyone else but I'd HATE to see them put all the progress, chemistry and continuity building here up in smoke with Lincoln Riley or even the Bruce Arians who had to leave coaching because stress wasn't good for his heart disease. Regardless of what happens today - to knee jerk Gregg Williams out of town is going to piss off A LOT of players that stayed the course because of him. Hard to underestimate. Right now - we've become a recruiting attraction for veteran FAs. When they talk to the guys that LOVE to play for Gregg Williams - that will help to close the deal on some important signings for next season.
McCarthy did a nice job developing Rodgers many moons ago. That said, nobody has more Rookie of the Week honors than Baker this year. Kitchens is doing a great job especially knowing he isn't being micro-managed or receiving a complete lack of trust from Williams. Some will say why not make Kitchens the HC? First, how LONG has he even been an OC here? Second, how often do Coordinators ace their first HC opportunity inclusive of Belicheck here (only 1 winning season in 5 years, but 0-3 vrs Pitt in that 1 season). If that's not a good example, Romeo Crennel, Lindy Infante, Wade Wilson, and Norv Turner didn't ace any of their HC opportunities (but were excellent Coordinators for more than 1 team).
Again, why hurry to change what just finally pleased our fan base and restored faith in a lot of fans that never thought it would be possible again? As much as I love a lot of things Dorsey has done here - we're 1 bad move away from feeling like we're in check mate again. No FREAKIN thanks! And I don't feel like saying FREAKIN if you know what I mean...
If we get rathoused today - you never read this...
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But what does that entail?
Haslam walks into Dorsey's office and says, "I don't want you to hire your own coach. I want Williams as HC and Kitchens as OC."
Then Dorsey walks into Williams' office and says, "You can be the HC but you can't hire your own OC. It has to be Kitchens."
How do ya go about it? Without it being a shotgun marriage?
Quit acting like Tony Grossi... I saw that on the Red Zone and wanted to choke him...
Quit acting like Tony Grossi... I saw that on the Red Zone and wanted to choke him...
Like the line in the song
paranoia runs deep.... especially around here
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered "anything close" to a frontrunner for the Browns' full-time job.
This isn't a surprise — Williams was never more than a placeholder. The Browns have had a second half turnaround under OC Freddie Kitchens, but there's no mandate to keep Kitchens or Williams under the new coaching staff. Williams won't struggle to resurface in another defensive coordinator role this offseason.hope this not true i get bad feeling we are gonna go after gase or mcdanialNFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered "anything close" to a frontrunner for the Browns' full-time job.
This isn't a surprise — Williams was never more than a placeholder. The Browns have had a second half turnaround under OC Freddie Kitchens, but there's no mandate to keep Kitchens or Williams under the new coaching staff. Williams won't struggle to resurface in another defensive coordinator role this offseason.hope this not true i get bad feeling we are gonna go after gase or mcdanialI hear ya! And Nurse Ratchid can't be a day over 75 if we really want to get all Titanic. Moral of the story, it's nice to see the GLACIER so you can tap all that promise...
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"Browns: Even after the surging second half of the season, Browns interim coach Gregg Williams isn't considered a front-runner or anything close for the full-time job. He will, however, receive an interview. Cleveland is expected to cast a wide net and has no mandate to keep both coordinators, despite their success. Either way, Freddie Kitchens has earned the right to be a coordinator somewhere. Among those expected to be considered or inquired about are McCarthy, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Patriots de facto defensive coordinator Brian Flores and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, and Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus."
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wSS
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Love that article. So, seasons not even over yet, not one interview has been conducted, but we already know who the frontrunner is?
Only way this is true is if leaked from 3g's agent. And even in that case, anyone really think Dorsey is naive enough to say this to 3g before seasons end?
Rapaport been slipping lately
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Oh, Lord... please no Patriot Coordinators.
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