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  • Here's one concern. Hue Jackson was a player's coach and it seems like they slacked off on him. Gregg Williams was a bit more of a Taskmaster who put up with less shit and they did respond. I fear that Freddy might be another player's coach. I really hope somebody keeps the heat on. You noticed the drop-off and stupid penalties when Williams took over right?  

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Here's one concern. Hue Jackson was a player's coach and it seems like they slacked off on him. Gregg Williams was a bit more of a Taskmaster who put up with less shit and they did respond. I fear that Freddy might be another player's coach. I really hope somebody keeps the heat on. You noticed the drop-off and stupid penalties when Williams took over right?  

    WSS

    It's a vicious cycle. Players complain that they want a coach that will treat them like men, and when they get that coach, the players immediately begin acting like immature boys. A guy like Gregg Williams was exactly what the Browns needed. Granted, the tough love schtick usually wears thin with the players after 2 or 3 years but it was definitely what this team needed at the time.

  • I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth here.

    First, our defense has been ranked as close as possible to the bottom of the league in most defensive yardage allowed categories, all year long.   -  Last year we played defense with basically 10 players and Peppers playing goalie on the other side of the field.  That just didn't seem brilliant, but maybe it was.  We can't go back and try it another way to find out.  Perhaps it's best that we're going with a new DC.  (and with the hire of Kitchens, we pretty much HAD to let Gregg go).

    Other side of mouth:  Williams' defense was aggressive and ball hawking...WITHOUT being undisciplined.  The Ghoul predicted players running around like crazed dogs (to borrow an old term) blowing assignments and getting penalties.  That wasn't so.

    And Gregg took over the team at a point where the team was losing games and lost their HC & OC...and what he did was to bring stability to the ship.  There was no more throwing people under the bus.   Press conferences were cohesive and more professional.  

    I join Nickers, and others, who have said Thank You to Gregg Williams!  I wish him well.

    @orion said:

    I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth here.

    First, our defense has been ranked as close as possible to the bottom of the league in most defensive yardage allowed categories, all year long.   -  Last year we played defense with basically 10 players and Peppers playing goalie on the other side of the field.  That just didn't seem brilliant, but maybe it was.  We can't go back and try it another way to find out.  Perhaps it's best that we're going with a new DC.  (and with the hire of Kitchens, we pretty much HAD to let Gregg go).

    Other side of mouth:  Williams' defense was aggressive and ball hawking...WITHOUT being undisciplined.  The Ghoul predicted players running around like crazed dogs (to borrow an old term) blowing assignments and getting penalties.  That wasn't so.

    And Gregg took over the team at a point where the team was losing games and lost their HC & OC...and what he did was to bring stability to the ship.  There was no more throwing people under the bus.   Press conferences were cohesive and more professional.  

    I join Nickers, and others, who have said Thank You to Gregg Williams!  I wish him well.

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

  • @orion said:

    I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth here.

    First, our defense has been ranked as close as possible to the bottom of the league in most defensive yardage allowed categories, all year long.   -  Last year we played defense with basically 10 players and Peppers playing goalie on the other side of the field.  That just didn't seem brilliant, but maybe it was.  We can't go back and try it another way to find out.  Perhaps it's best that we're going with a new DC.  (and with the hire of Kitchens, we pretty much HAD to let Gregg go).

    Other side of mouth:  Williams' defense was aggressive and ball hawking...WITHOUT being undisciplined.  The Ghoul predicted players running around like crazed dogs (to borrow an old term) blowing assignments and getting penalties.  That wasn't so.

    And Gregg took over the team at a point where the team was losing games and lost their HC & OC...and what he did was to bring stability to the ship.  There was no more throwing people under the bus.   Press conferences were cohesive and more professional.  

    I join Nickers, and others, who have said Thank You to Gregg Williams!  I wish him well.

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

    @clevfan4life said:

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

  • @clevfan4life said:

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    @d-bone said:

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    From what I remember, that was the case for the first couple games, but then it seemed like they reverted back with time. 

  • GW was great as far as discipline is concerned. It was the game managing/decision making that seemed suspect to me

  • @clevfan4life said:

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    @d-bone said:

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    With HueJax-- per game/11-4-5-8-10-6-14-7..we were in top 3...Post Huejax after Pitt.--per game/4-7-7-6-7-6-6-4...we finished ranked #15 in total penalties committed.. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    U sure about that disciplined part? I havent looked up a stat so this is smell test assessment, on both sides of the ball tbh....the browns got alot of flags this year. I mean a couple games i went to.u looked down for a sec to taje a sip of beer and u looked up in time to see a little yellow fucker floating back down onto the field.

    I got beside myself at a couple games, like sputtering at the refs "u throw thst flag one more fucking time asshole im gonna find out where u kids go to school".

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    @d-bone said:

    I haven't looked at any official stats either, but my eye test said we had noticeably fewer penalties once Greg took over.    

    I forget which game it was but i distinctly rem thinking "i thought this shit was over with now that gw is runming things"

  • I hope this works out...i prefer taskmaster to players coach.  These millionaires have been coddled since high school. 

  • Confirmed new DC at the Jets ....week 1 next year Browns at Jets 🙂

  • That should be interesting with him and gase

  • That should be interesting with him and gase

    @lbc-mike said:

    That should be interesting with him and gase

    Certainly:

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  • He's got a good chance at being interim HC by mid season 2020.

  • Gets to work Leonard Williams, Darron Lee Jamal Adams...     not a bad gig.

  • Gregg's a good dude. I'm happy for him.

    Now Hue, hopefully he can get a high school gig as an assistant.

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  • Gregg's a good dude. I'm happy for him.

    Now Hue, hopefully he can get a high school gig as an assistant.

    @stillmotion said:

    Gregg's a good dude. I'm happy for him.

    Now Hue, hopefully he can get a high school gig as an assistant.

    Would you want Hue teaching your son how to play QB? I sure wouldn’t. Gregg would probably be HC somewhere but the league keeps a boner for him. 

  • Gase had three years in Miami to do something and his offense ranked 29th, 25th, and 30th. Sees like the shakiest of the coaching hires to me.

    But the Bungles just said "Hold my beer" ... 

    They are going for Sean McVey's assistant coffee fetcher ... He's young and has a beard too.

    Zombo

  • Gase had three years in Miami to do something and his offense ranked 29th, 25th, and 30th. Sees like the shakiest of the coaching hires to me.

    But the Bungles just said "Hold my beer" ... 

    They are going for Sean McVey's assistant coffee fetcher ... He's young and has a beard too.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Gase had three years in Miami to do something and his offense ranked 29th, 25th, and 30th. Sees like the shakiest of the coaching hires to me.

    But the Bungles just said "Hold my beer" ... 

    They are going for Sean McVey's assistant coffee fetcher ... He's young and has a beard too.

    Zombo

    Regarding the Bungles, wishin' and a hopein' the McVay magic transferrs by osmosis. I'm hopein' for a Dave Shula level performance in Porkopolis. They're making the same mistake the Browns did a few coaches back. You're last hiring your HC, all the good asistants have already been accounted for.