Gerald McCoy
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ABBa..lmao! take a chance on me?
holy chit.. Chris Jones is a quarter inch short of 6'5".add a 34.5" arm reach with a pair of 10.25" hands he's a animal that we just hope Dorsey can match..Your right he ran a 5.03 40 at 310lbs..290'ish sounds about right. now strong as ox shreding some pounds. His 16 pass defections coming up the gut is what Shelton nor Ogbah just could not give us. GW trusted Ogbah like a DC should..I wonder what the thought process of Ogbah is now with GW gone? I like the new set of eyes we have on this defense.March & April can't get here quick enough..?️
Good point Gumbs! I don't know what happened to the Ogbah I saw in 2017 prior to going on IR. I certainly don't see DT as his most desirable niche. I'm still puzzled we cut Meder last year after watching how the inside of our defense got gashed considering how high he was ranked by PFF against the run in 2017. Williams actually pointed it out in 2017 so my guess is Dorsey or Depo is the one that wanted him cut.
I'm glad DT is supposed to be a deep position in this draft...
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Jones was a beast at his Senior Bowl...
McCoy? Once very good to great.... now not so much.
Jones was a beast at his Senior Bowl...
McCoy? Once very good to great.... now not so much.
Not knowing what's going to be available where we pick, i'd have to say I'd still make him a reasonable upper tier but not elite contract offer. He wouldn't be the sole heavy lifter here. I think he could have 1-2 "VERY" productive years playing on our D line. If we were to pick up maybe Raekwon or Lawrence if he falls far enough, fingers crossed.....I mean that depth would also greatly benefit Larry. If he wants "elite" DT money, nahhh. If he wants to play in the playoffs next year on a front line with depth where he'll be able to stay healthy....Clev is not a bad place. We pick up Ansah or Flowers on top of this than we can maybe think about addressing another position in the draft.
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Jones was a beast at his Senior Bowl...
McCoy? Once very good to great.... now not so much.
Not knowing what's going to be available where we pick, i'd have to say I'd still make him a reasonable upper tier but not elite contract offer. He wouldn't be the sole heavy lifter here. I think he could have 1-2 "VERY" productive years playing on our D line. If we were to pick up maybe Raekwon or Lawrence if he falls far enough, fingers crossed.....I mean that depth would also greatly benefit Larry. If he wants "elite" DT money, nahhh. If he wants to play in the playoffs next year on a front line with depth where he'll be able to stay healthy....Clev is not a bad place. We pick up Ansah or Flowers on top of this than we can maybe think about addressing another position in the draft.
We pick up Ansah or Flowers on top of this than we can maybe think about addressing another position in the draft.
Go get Christian Wilkins & plug n play him at DT or LDE....I'd be begging & trading bodies to get to #10
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We pick up Ansah or Flowers on top of this than we can maybe think about addressing another position in the draft.
Go get Christian Wilkins & plug n play him at DT or LDE....I'd be begging & trading bodies to get to #10
Go get Christian Wilkins & plug n play him at DT or LDE....I'd be begging & trading bodies to get to #10
He's a bit chunky for LDE no? lol.
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As far as Clemson DT's go, Lawrence may drop far enough that we might be able to get him or only have to trade up a couple spots. All depends what happens on draft day I guess. Really not sure what's going to be available at 17. If the guys we want are gone, i'd be ok with trading out and loading up picks for next year.
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He's a bit chunky for LDE no? lol.
go watch Dabo tape where Wilkins & Clein Ferrell lined up..Lawrence was 3rd in stats behind both...imo,Lawrence won't be 340lbs. playing in Wilks system..
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He's a bit chunky for LDE no? lol.
go watch Dabo tape where Wilkins & Clein Ferrell lined up..Lawrence was 3rd in stats behind both...imo,Lawrence won't be 340lbs. playing in Wilks system..
go watch Dabo tape where Wilkins & Clein Ferrell lined up..Lawrence was 3rd in stats behind both...imo,Lawrence won't be 340lbs. playing in Wilks system..
yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
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go watch Dabo tape where Wilkins & Clein Ferrell lined up..Lawrence was 3rd in stats behind both...imo,Lawrence won't be 340lbs. playing in Wilks system..
yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
Allen plays for the skins.
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The chances that Dorsey will pick up some DT help whether the draft or FA a given. Question will be who.
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The key will be what we do in free agency. That is purely filling needs. It would be nice to check off a few needs so we can enter the draft with the mind we are going to draft the best players and not worry much about what position they play with a few exceptions. Obviously we aren't going to draft a QB or RB high in the draft. We may end up drafting one or both positions, but it will be the 4th round before much consideration is given to those positions.
My feeling is we have real needs at DT, LB, safety, and maybe OT. I don't see receiver as a big need. That is assuming we get Higgins and Perriman signed. At least one of them. I liked Willies. He has great speed and offers a big target. I think he will breakout next season. He can stretch the field as can Callaway. We also have to consider we now have a QB who can throw guys open. Lets fill a few needs in FA to open up the possibilities of the draft.
Needs still play a role in the draft process. Once you get past the top of the draft players, the player ratings start to bunch up. You usually don't have one player who is clearly the best on the board. You might have 3-4 guys rated pretty much the same. At that point you might allow needs to dictate the pick.
It's going to be fun to watch this thing unfold!
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Falcons have a est. cap space of 4.6M. A Julio Jones that owners said they owe him a relook at contract (again).. Jarrett was a 5th rounder from Clemson. Owns a Market Value of 5 yrs.76.2M looking 15.2M per season.RB Tevin Coleman is also up having a market value of 5M per season. I'd say the draft judges will take a serious look at Dexter Lawrence enhancer background & Wilkins stock will properly rise.. 11 draft bullets, and a long way to go to even guess. One thing Dorsey has proven drafting? Players NFL future on field talent outlook can outweigh a players rough background.. troubled guys won't chase off Dorsey. From Tunsil & after, they tumble every draft
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yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
Allen plays for the skins.
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The key will be what we do in free agency. That is purely filling needs. It would be nice to check off a few needs so we can enter the draft with the mind we are going to draft the best players and not worry much about what position they play with a few exceptions. Obviously we aren't going to draft a QB or RB high in the draft. We may end up drafting one or both positions, but it will be the 4th round before much consideration is given to those positions.
My feeling is we have real needs at DT, LB, safety, and maybe OT. I don't see receiver as a big need. That is assuming we get Higgins and Perriman signed. At least one of them. I liked Willies. He has great speed and offers a big target. I think he will breakout next season. He can stretch the field as can Callaway. We also have to consider we now have a QB who can throw guys open. Lets fill a few needs in FA to open up the possibilities of the draft.
Needs still play a role in the draft process. Once you get past the top of the draft players, the player ratings start to bunch up. You usually don't have one player who is clearly the best on the board. You might have 3-4 guys rated pretty much the same. At that point you might allow needs to dictate the pick.
It's going to be fun to watch this thing unfold!
My feeling is we have real needs at DT, LB, safety, and maybe OT.
??? That might be one of the best rotations on this team between Randall, Peppers, Calhoun and Kindred.
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??? That might be one of the best rotations on this team between Randall, Peppers, Calhoun and Kindred.
Improving the run defense has to be priority #1. The early draft talking heads have us taking a DT or LB first... We need d-line depth so Garret can take a series off now and then and not be gassed in the 4th quarter...
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??? That might be one of the best rotations on this team between Randall, Peppers, Calhoun and Kindred.
Improving the run defense has to be priority #1. The early draft talking heads have us taking a DT or LB first... We need d-line depth so Garret can take a series off now and then and not be gassed in the 4th quarter...
Improving the run defense has to be priority #1. The early draft talking heads have us taking a DT or LB first... We need d-line depth so Garret can take a series off now and then and not be gassed in the 4th quarter...
More than likely ( especially with Wilks on board) our first couple picks will look that way. It's a name I've dropped before and will continue to do so until I've watched him thoroughly - Christian Wilkins. I also would be interested to see if Carl Davis can absorb some meaningful time in the middle should we go LB 1st. I like him when he was in Baltimore and felt he could make an impact on early downs with limited work. Big reasoning being that he wasn't in the best of condition when coming out from Iowa. He only has a snap log for 5 games according to Pro football reference. Honestly that would have to be one I would need to check for myself to trust.
My biggest concern is the need for our front 4 to pressure the QB more without the additional 5th or 6th man. Ogbah has been underwhelming thus far. Which is why I feel Avery will be an awesome rotational piece moving forward.
RE: Myles. I would like to see Zettel and Chris Smith get some more meaningful snaps to help spell our ends. I feel that alone would go a long way to easing Garrett through a season.
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go watch Dabo tape where Wilkins & Clein Ferrell lined up..Lawrence was 3rd in stats behind both...imo,Lawrence won't be 340lbs. playing in Wilks system..
yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
Raekwon Davis-Bama??--scratch...He's headed back to Bama
scratch Auburn- Derrick Brown also..
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yeah but your LDE isn't typically 34 NT size. That being said, one of the guys im going to watch at the combine is Raekwon...he's 315 but he's also 6'7 and can move. And he was slated to go around 20....he did disappear in the championship game, but so did Jonathan Allen and he had 9 sacks this year for the Vikes. Raekwon's strength is already NFL ready and if I read right, he might "right now" be in the upper tier in terms of strength In the entire NFL. If he has enough bend and edge mechanics i'll be team Raekwon come the draft, unless Lawrence falls to us.
Raekwon Davis-Bama??--scratch...He's headed back to Bama
scratch Auburn- Derrick Brown also..
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??? That might be one of the best rotations on this team between Randall, Peppers, Calhoun and Kindred.
Improving the run defense has to be priority #1. The early draft talking heads have us taking a DT or LB first... We need d-line depth so Garret can take a series off now and then and not be gassed in the 4th quarter...
Improving the run defense has to be priority #1. The early draft talking heads have us taking a DT or LB first... We need d-line depth so Garret can take a series off now and then and not be gassed in the 4th quarter...
the issue is the great DT's and even the good DT's will likely be gone by 17. My one holdout is how far Lawrence drops. If we could get up to 10 we could prob pick up a really good DT. And we have to find a DE in FA to compliment Garrett. Ansah or Flowers. If we can't move up, and those good DT's are gone....that's why I made the thread a few weeks ago to trade out and load up more picks to move up next year.
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