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  • KardiacKid26 K
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    K KardiacKid26 wrote on last edited by ATENEARS
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285489

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    • ATENEARS ATENEARSA Founder In Memoriam
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      ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by ATENEARS
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      It's a step in the right direction. Shaq makes the Cavaliers better.

      I just think that Danny Ferry and the Cavs management targeted the wrong team (Celtics) to gear up for down the stretch of last season. That is acceptable going into last season as the Celtics were the 2008 NBA Champs. However, at the nearing of the Trade deadline, it was obvious that we needed help in the paint against Orlando & the Lakers. Shaq was an easy answer, a no-brainer, and the numbers & expiring contracts worked and fit well for both the Cavs & the Suns.

      I applaud bringing the big fella in ... but have to wonder how much farther the Cavs could have inched toward an NBA title last season, had they made this trade then.

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      (Shaq Jersey's coming soon to The Browns Store . Com !!)

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      • Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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        Great move!

        Shaq had a good year last year. 17 points 8 boards a game. Not only that, he had career high's in FT % and career lows in turnovers. Now just a swing man who can hit the 3. I have looked online, I know it's bullshit, but there rumors of Iverson and a sign and trade deal. I would welcome it as long as he knows up front, THIS IS LEBRON'S TEAM.

        I'll be honest I thought they couldn't pull it off, I was dead wrong.

        Go Cavs!

        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        • lambdo L
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          L lambdo wrote on last edited by
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          No way AI can play within Clevelands system. He ain't coming off the bench, and with Mo and AI both not playing D, Lebron would lose his shit.

          Shaq is a great addition.

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            D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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            Iverson doesn't know how to play as a setup guy, that would be a huge mistake. Shaq is a great addition. I wouldn't count out the Celtics for next year. With a healthy garnett and a free agent move or two the Celtics will be much better

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              Dan in FloridaD Dan in Florida wrote on last edited by Dan in Florida
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              Besides Cleveland, I used to live in Phoenix, and I am still a Suns fan. I hope Shaq helps you guys and Lebron stays because this trade helped him.

              Since I follow the Suns, I will pass along what I have observed about Shaq. The first year (or partial first year) with the Suns, it was pretty much a failed experiment...of course he hadn't played for Miami most of that year due to injury (or the Heat/Heat Fans would say "faked injury" because he was unhappy with the Heat).

              The Suns have a GREAT training staff and that's why you saw Shaq's numbers go up last year. He has been saying how he has felt better than he has for years and staying injury free now. Hopefully the Cavs use the same exercises on him.

              Also, the Suns tried to alternate him thoughout last year, when they could, NOT to play in back to back games.

              Being that he played with Amare last year, I think the transition to playing with Lebron should go pretty smooth.

              One last thing, Shaq does NOT play much defense.

              This is also good for my Suns who need to dump contracts and rebuild. Rumor has it, that Amare is on the trading block too (from the Suns).

              Good Luck Cavs!

              I'm sticking with Mangini & Amber
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                S sofakingwhat wrote on last edited by
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                No AI he sucks. Bring in Rasheed Wallace.

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                  C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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                    P PBJ wrote on last edited by
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                    As an Irish citizen I am glad to welcome Shaquille O'Neal, the greatest Irish basketball player ever, to Cleveland.

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                      As an Irish citizen I am glad to welcome Shaquille O'Neal, the greatest Irish basketball player ever, to Cleveland.

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                      @pbj said:

                      As an Irish citizen I am glad to welcome Shaquille O'Neal, the greatest Irish basketball player ever, to Cleveland.

                      If Larry Bird's not irish i duno what is.

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                        S samoth wrote on last edited by
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                        Shaq's the best baller I've ever watched play, even though he's declining in speed he'll help this team immensely and we gave up nothing for him.

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                          Shaq's the best baller I've ever watched play, even though he's declining in speed he'll help this team immensely and we gave up nothing for him.

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                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                          @samoth said:

                          Shaq's the best baller I've ever watched play, even though he's declining in speed he'll help this team immensely and we gave up nothing for him.

                          Vince Carter traded to the Magic. Thread in Cavs board. This has been one hell of a day, very weird.

                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                            O osusev wrote on last edited by
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                            DAM ORLANDO...... As if they needed more shooting firepower! Hopefully at least with Shaq VS Howard we dont have to run crazy inside doubles leaving open their 3 point assault....

                            Wallace or Stoudemire or hell even Turkoglu as another piece would make me happy... Even thought I despise Wallace... We definately have the cap room with Eric Snow falling off the books and Wally willing to renogotiate....

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                            • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

                              It's a step in the right direction. Shaq makes the Cavaliers better.

                              I just think that Danny Ferry and the Cavs management targeted the wrong team (Celtics) to gear up for down the stretch of last season. That is acceptable going into last season as the Celtics were the 2008 NBA Champs. However, at the nearing of the Trade deadline, it was obvious that we needed help in the paint against Orlando & the Lakers. Shaq was an easy answer, a no-brainer, and the numbers & expiring contracts worked and fit well for both the Cavs & the Suns.

                              I applaud bringing the big fella in ... but have to wonder how much farther the Cavs could have inched toward an NBA title last season, had they made this trade then.

                              shaq-and-lebron.jpg

                              (Shaq Jersey's coming soon to The Browns Store . Com !!)

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              @atenears said:

                              It's a step in the right direction. Shaq makes the Cavaliers better.

                              I just think that Danny Ferry and the Cavs management targeted the wrong team (Celtics) to gear up for down the stretch of last season. That is acceptable going into last season as the Celtics were the 2008 NBA Champs. However, at the nearing of the Trade deadline, it was obvious that we needed help in the paint against Orlando & the Lakers. Shaq was an easy answer, a no-brainer, and the numbers & expiring contracts worked and fit well for both the Cavs & the Suns.

                              I applaud bringing the big fella in ... but have to wonder how much farther the Cavs could have inched toward an NBA title last season, had they made this trade then.

                              shaq-and-lebron.jpg

                              (Shaq Jersey's coming soon to The Browns Store . Com !!)

                              Had Harriston had his hand a few inches over, we might have won the Super Bowl.

                              I guess what I am saying is what might have beens can be never ending.

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                                i hate the trade. shaq's far over the hill, immobile and doesn't defend the pick and roll well. how, in any way, does he help us against the magic (or against any other team with agile big men, for that matter)?

                                atlanta's cutting salary; josh howard, while mercurial, would have been a far better player to pursue. he's young, blocks shots, can run the floor and is an unstoppable dunker. he could develop the strength to bang with howard or, barring that, is fast and agile enough to harass him like lamar odom did. on top of that, he's 23, so he's got his best years in front of him, and coming to a winning atmosphere like the cavs would only add to his development.

                                this trade assures us a playoff exit before we get to the finals...again.

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                                  S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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                                  The Cav's should have learned from the Browns. Don't bring in oft injured washed up old dudes. It does not work. Right Ted Washington?

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                                    i hate the trade. shaq's far over the hill, immobile and doesn't defend the pick and roll well. how, in any way, does he help us against the magic (or against any other team with agile big men, for that matter)?

                                    atlanta's cutting salary; josh howard, while mercurial, would have been a far better player to pursue. he's young, blocks shots, can run the floor and is an unstoppable dunker. he could develop the strength to bang with howard or, barring that, is fast and agile enough to harass him like lamar odom did. on top of that, he's 23, so he's got his best years in front of him, and coming to a winning atmosphere like the cavs would only add to his development.

                                    this trade assures us a playoff exit before we get to the finals...again.

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                                    ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jewdago said:

                                    i hate the trade. shaq's far over the hill, immobile and doesn't defend the pick and roll well. how, in any way, does he help us against the magic (or against any other team with agile big men, for that matter)?

                                    atlanta's cutting salary; josh howard, while mercurial, would have been a far better player to pursue. he's young, blocks shots, can run the floor and is an unstoppable dunker. he could develop the strength to bang with howard or, barring that, is fast and agile enough to harass him like lamar odom did. on top of that, he's 23, so he's got his best years in front of him, and coming to a winning atmosphere like the cavs would only add to his development.

                                    this trade assures us a playoff exit before we get to the finals...again.

                                    Completely disagree. Shaq takes us to the finals next year. Then he is traded/retires. 20 million off the books on the biggest freeagent year ever. We get LeBron the superstar of his choice and presto, dynasty.

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                                      C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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                                      Yeah, I really can't see any downside to the deal. We gave up nothing for him and he's much better than Ilgauskas. Not really much more to it than that. Next year he'll either re-sign for cheap or move on.

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                                        @jewdago said:

                                        i hate the trade. shaq's far over the hill, immobile and doesn't defend the pick and roll well. how, in any way, does he help us against the magic (or against any other team with agile big men, for that matter)?

                                        atlanta's cutting salary; josh howard, while mercurial, would have been a far better player to pursue. he's young, blocks shots, can run the floor and is an unstoppable dunker. he could develop the strength to bang with howard or, barring that, is fast and agile enough to harass him like lamar odom did. on top of that, he's 23, so he's got his best years in front of him, and coming to a winning atmosphere like the cavs would only add to his development.

                                        this trade assures us a playoff exit before we get to the finals...again.

                                        Completely disagree. Shaq takes us to the finals next year. Then he is traded/retires. 20 million off the books on the biggest freeagent year ever. We get LeBron the superstar of his choice and presto, dynasty.

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                                        J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                                        AdaM said:

                                        Completely disagree. Shaq takes us to the finals next year. Then he is traded/retires. 20 million off the books on the biggest freeagent year ever. We get LeBron the superstar of his choice and presto, dynasty.

                                        the 20 mil coming off the books in '10 is great and should help us land chris bosh, but shaq can't guard dwight howard. howard's too agile for the old man.

                                        this trade doesn't make us better, happened too early and got rid of the cavs' most valuable asset, ben wallace's expiring deal, for someone who will be, at best, marginally effective this year.

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                                          C CIMO. wrote on last edited by
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                                          Budinger's still on the board.

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