Looking back on Bill

FairHooker11

The fans outside the practice facility, waving their anti-Belichick placards feverishly, wondered why Kosar fits in with Dallas but isn't good enough for the Browns.

Belichick offered no answer. Instead, he wondered if the fans "spelled my name right."

pretty good article -

the 11-5 season ( 1 year or so before the announced move to Baltimore) wondering if Fart Modell even cared?

then there is this BS

the Belichick firing was now a baltimore decision

Bob806

@nickers said:

I already looked back.. Fuck Bill...

Yeah, it's painful as hell. We fans that were around will never be able to erase the bitter taste of Modell and his shenanigans.

Orion

They moved away and THEN won a super bowl. The ultimate snub.

We hated Bill because he cut Kosar....WHILE Testaverde was injured and thought might be out for the year. He inserted Todd Philcox. We watched Philcox play horribly (as expected) and lose while Bernie played the following sunday for Dallas....and won 2 of 3 games. We had a pretty good team. And it went into the sewer...while Kosar could've kept us afloat until Testaverde came back. - The cutting of Kosar was not in the best interest of the football team at that time.

Canton Dawg

Then we have ESPN spewing this annual nonsense once again. . .

The Gipper

@orion said:

They moved away and THEN won a super bowl. The ultimate snub.

We hated Bill because he cut Kosar....WHILE Testaverde was injured and thought might be out for the year. He inserted Todd Philcox. We watched Philcox play horribly (as expected) and lose while Bernie played the following sunday for Dallas....and won 2 of 3 games. We had a pretty good team. And it went into the sewer...while Kosar could've kept us afloat until Testaverde came back. - The cutting of Kosar was not in the best interest of the football team at that time.

Who moved away. The Browns never moved never ever.

The Gipper

@canton-dawg said:

Then we have ESPN spewing this annual nonsense once again. . .

And technically I don’t think it was the Browns that fired Bill Belichick. It would’ve been the Baltimore franchise not the Cleveland franchise because he was still under that contract to Mod ell that got assigned to the new franchise

Orion

@the-gipper said:

Who moved away. The Browns never moved never ever.

Technicalities mean nothing.

hoorta

@orion said:

Technicalities mean nothing.

To guys like Trollie, who still claim the Ravens are the Browns... and Modell will still go down in history as the owner firing two HOF coaches...

The Gipper

@orion said:

Technicalities mean nothing.

Except of course you win or lose On technicalities

Canton Dawg

@the-gipper said:

And technically I don’t think it was the Browns that fired Bill Belichick. It would’ve been the Baltimore franchise not the Cleveland franchise because he was still under that contract to Mod ell that got assigned to the new franchise

Yep, the Browns franchise went away on February 9th, and 6 days later Baltimore fired him.

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

Who moved away. The Browns never moved never ever.

Man, you've been extra Gipperish this week.

Yes, the Browns moved.

Dutch Oven

@hoorta said:

To guys like Trollie, who still claim the Ravens are the Browns... and Modell will still go down in history as the owner firing two HOF coaches...

Here's the truth that Browns fans don't want to hear:

Modell was right to fire both.

There are quite a few Browns players on record that say the Browns would not have won the 1964 NFL Title with Paul Brown as head coach. And as great of a head coach Paul Brown was, Blanton Collier had the EXACT SAME WIN PERCENTAGE as head coach as Brown for the NFL Browns. (The AAFC years push Brown's win % way up).

And Belichick himself said that he needed to be fired from the Browns/Ravens job if he ever wanted to become the head coach he is now.

nickers

@westside-steve said:

https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/02/15/bill-belichick-firing-cleveland-browns-baltimore-ravens-art-modell-bernie-kosar#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

I read the piece... Bill was such an asshole while he was here... I remember vividly how I wanted to squeeze his throat and squeeze the living fuck out of his life!... I hate that mother fucker... call me bitter I guess....

EDIT: Seeing 'Metcalf up the middle' to no avail just infuriated me... It never worked... Then there was Steve Crosby.. a real piece of offensive genius..Complete buffoon... LOL!!

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

Man, you've been extra Gipperish this week.

Yes, the Browns moved.

How much money you want to bet

Westside Steve

One of the first things Bill did after taking control of the Browns what is the cut back on the Press perks. Free food hanging out on the team bus or airplane etc etc. So you piss off sportswriters community and guess what happens to your coverage?

WSS

The Gipper

@westside-steve said:

One of the first things Bill did after taking control of the Browns what is the cut back on the Press perks. Free food hanging out on the team bus or airplane etc etc. So you piss off sportswriters community and guess what happens to your coverage?

WSS

So in other words he was a many and varied asshole

Westside Steve

@the-gipper said:

So in other words he was a many and varied asshole

Bernie Kosar was once a fine quarterback.

So was Drew Bledsoe.

WSS

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

How much money you want to bet

Weird how every player on the 1995 Browns roster and every coach on the 1995 Browns were not in Cleveland for the 1996 NFL season.

Kvoethe

This is like that thread looking back at the draft....

Orion

@dutch-oven said:

Weird how every player on the 1995 Browns roster and every coach on the 1995 Browns were not in Cleveland for the 1996 NFL season.

......and then there are those that think the earth is flat....and we never landed on the moon....and the new Ravens were 'clones' of the Browns organization, while the originals were zapped into non existence by gamma rays. - The reality is, the Browns moved to Baltimore, and subsequently were told to paint themselves purple and call themselves something other than the Browns. (ok, I lied. they weren't told to paint themselves purple...they chose to paint themselves purple) - Then we got a stadium, so we could have a team, and so we could select all special teamers in the plan B expansion draft. We came back into the league as dummies and remained that way until a blind squirrel finally found John Dorsey.