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  • @the-gipper said:

    Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth. 

    For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?

    @choco said:

    For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?

    Let's just be happy he knows what position Odell plays

  • Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...

    He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.

    Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so  we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.

  • Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...

    He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.

    Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so  we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.

    @tour2ma said:

    Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...

    He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.

    Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so  we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.

    Pep played deep a lot last year, got that pick against Denver, and has a year playing the deepest safety ever (....ha). 

    I think this was more about what the Giants wanted than what we were wanting to move. And with some Safeties still out there, I can see why Dorsey did it.

    Just bummed to see it when everything this season has been about him being a leader on the D and what not. Oh well

  • Woody, step back from the ledge. You're upset that we are getting rid of a middle of the road safety for a HoF WR. This hurts the defense, but if we are averaging 72 points a game, then who cares. Our defense is much better than KC on paper.

  • Pep will prove to be better than MOR if he used as a box SS...

  • Woody, step back from the ledge. You're upset that we are getting rid of a middle of the road safety for a HoF WR. This hurts the defense, but if we are averaging 72 points a game, then who cares. Our defense is much better than KC on paper.

    @vaportrail said:

    Woody, step back from the ledge. You're upset that we are getting rid of a middle of the road safety for a HoF WR. This hurts the defense, but if we are averaging 72 points a game, then who cares. Our defense is much better than KC on paper.

    I'm not nearly as on the ledge as people think. I'm playing it up a little on here.

    It isn't a one for one trade. He's above average. I know Odell is elite.

    I'm disappointed. I was hoping it'd be Ogbah or something. The Giants clearly wanted Pep. I'm excited to see our new team though 

  • @choco said:

    For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?

    Let's just be happy he knows what position Odell plays

    @mld-woody said:

    Let's just be happy he knows what position Odell plays

    I know a few things:

    A.  we traded for a Hall of Fame caliber

    B. In return gave up what so far has been a mediocre or below producer.   If Peppers has serious talent, it only showed for brief moments.

    C. The key to this deal was not Peppers...he was just a throw in so that the Giants could have a body at safety.  The key was the first round pick.

    So, clearly, I must know a lot of things you seemingly have no clue about.

  • Woody... There is hope. Right now former Wolverine Kyle Kalis is the backup at both Center and Guard as far as I can see. And people aren't getting killed after stealing his weed, for all I know.

    So there's your new guy.

    Z

  • Woody... There is hope. Right now former Wolverine Kyle Kalis is the backup at both Center and Guard as far as I can see. And people aren't getting killed after stealing his weed, for all I know.

    So there's your new guy.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Woody... There is hope. Right now former Wolverine Kyle Kalis is the backup at both Center and Guard as far as I can see. And people aren't getting killed after stealing his weed, for all I know.

    So there's your new guy.

    Z

    And change your Avatar to a photo of Thom Darden.   A proven Browns All star....leading interceptor in team history.  Well loved by Browns fans.  Will not disappoint.  Michigander as well.

    And you gotta love him Rockin' the Fro:

    51QrHiyr-BL._SY445_.jpg

    Or, if you want an action photo:

    defensive-back-thom-darden-of-the-clevel

  • Well played, Woody. I feel it for ya. I was curious of how would Peppers develop once he was used properly and I valuee his versatility; that's useful in the tactic battle in the NFL. 

    Most of all, I liked how he behaved trying to lead the defense and that he was one of the few consistently good tacklers we had on D.

  • Zombo said:

    Woody... There is hope. Right now former Wolverine Kyle Kalis is the backup at both Center and Guard as far as I can see. And people aren't getting killed after stealing his weed, for all I know.

    So there's your new guy.

    Z

    And change your Avatar to a photo of Thom Darden.   A proven Browns All star....leading interceptor in team history.  Well loved by Browns fans.  Will not disappoint.  Michigander as well.

    And you gotta love him Rockin' the Fro:

    51QrHiyr-BL._SY445_.jpg

    Or, if you want an action photo:

    defensive-back-thom-darden-of-the-clevel

    @the-gipper said:

    And change your Avatar to a photo of Thom Darden.   A proven Browns All star....leading interceptor in team history.  Well loved by Browns fans.  Will not disappoint.  Michigander as well.

    And you gotta love him Rockin' the Fro:

    51QrHiyr-BL._SY445_.jpg

    Or, if you want an action photo:

    defensive-back-thom-darden-of-the-clevel

    My favorite player on defense as a kid.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And change your Avatar to a photo of Thom Darden.   A proven Browns All star....leading interceptor in team history.  Well loved by Browns fans.  Will not disappoint.  Michigander as well.

    And you gotta love him Rockin' the Fro:

    51QrHiyr-BL._SY445_.jpg

    Or, if you want an action photo:

    defensive-back-thom-darden-of-the-clevel

    My favorite player on defense as a kid.

    @mark-o said:

    My favorite player on defense as a kid.

    Oh!  But Browns fans don't like players from Michigan, I thought.

  • @mark-o said:

    My favorite player on defense as a kid.

    Oh!  But Browns fans don't like players from Michigan, I thought.

    @the-gipper said:

    Oh!  But Browns fans don't like players from Michigan, I thought.

    Only when they suck for the Browns, like one year wonder Braylon Edwards. Hey, we try to like those Michigan guys.