Greedy Williams

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

And the steelers are universally graded higher than the Browns almost across the board. Diontae Johnson was one of pff's favorite players in the draft. It doesn't mean dick until they are on the field. The same can be said for the insane crowning of the Browns because you all added OBJ which only highlights the ridiculous nature of the media existing on sound bites and buzz. 

You’re going to have to prove that first sentence in there for you by the way the Browns draft includes Odell Beckham Jr.  but it wasn’t just his acquisition it was also Vernon Olivers acquisition and Sheldon Richardson and Kareem hunt and others. But yes they do have to prove it on the field. But you also say See that the Steelers lost talent and the Browns gained talent where  it seemed fairly even this past season. And that’s why the Browns are favored a lot. 

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

He was likely going to be a bengal and Woodley was an animal before injuries started piling up. You are still a dip shit.

And you need to get the dude out of your avatar. You are the furthest thing from chill. You are more like the tourettes grandpa.on youtube.

I am as cool as the other side of the pillow compared to you you little **MASK** I mean just because I bang out a little pussy like you’re sorry but doesn’t mean I’m not chill as hell everybody likes to see you put Into a jar. And I am doing is abiding by that. And he’ll it wouldn’t surprise me if you’ve never even seen the movie

[The Gipper]

And I am probably the dudeist dude You would ever know. First I study from the abide guide and the Tao of the dude.  I also used to roll at the Premier bowling venue in the nation. That is Riviera lanes where the PBA tournament of champions was held for many years. And you misunderstand the dude if you think he is all about being chill.  he does not let aggression stand nor does he let ignorance stand and particularly he doesn’t let Aggressive ignorance such as you display stand. And while I do not hate the Eagles I do understand the sentiment concerning a few other bands. And lastly I practically live next-door to Medina Sod. 

[Comeonman]

This unchecked agression will not stand, man. 

[Nero]

OK, 10 pages and counting. I have no popcorn left. Anyone still got some?

[Westside Steve]

@the-gipper said:

Yet Vagitron claims that there are very heavy character concerns about this guy. just what are those supposed to be if you know?

There were character concerns about Johnny and Gilbert. Those concerns turned out to be valid even though I personally downplayed them. This time I'm crossing my fingers that hoping the naysayers are wrong about greedy Williams. But he did drop in the draft for a reason.

WSS

[The Gipper]

@westside-steve said:

There were character concerns about Johnny and Gilbert. Those concerns turned out to be valid even though I personally downplayed them. This time I'm crossing my fingers that hoping the naysayers are wrong about greedy Williams. But he did drop in the draft for a reason.

WSS

Football reasons not character concerns is why he dropped. You know the whole thing about him not wanting to tackle no one ever claimed it wasn’t an issue but it’s not a character concern

[Westside Steve]

@the-gipper said:

Football reasons not character concerns is why he dropped. You know the whole thing about him not wanting to tackle no one ever claimed it wasn’t an issue but it’s not a character concern

I don't mean character as in he's a thug I mean character as in he was lazy didn't want to tackle and quit on his team. Like Gilbert More Than Johnny.

WSS

[choco]

was deon lazy?  business decisions man...its not ideal, but if he can cover as good as what is said, he wont be asked to tackle much. its a tertiary skill for CB imo.  on the other extreme, our other starting CB tackles too much, often poorly, resulting in injury.  

so lets think this through for a second...

[nickers]

@vagitron said:

You need better edibles.

No.. I have had edibles with top notch product.... It does literally nothing for me... Everyone's Physiology and biology is different.. It's like no 2 people can have the same PH balance.. Some people's bodies process things differently... I have had butters, cookies and other assorted items.. Does nothing for me...

[Vagitron]

@choco said:

was deon lazy?  business decisions man...its not ideal, but if he can cover as good as what is said, he wont be asked to tackle much. its a tertiary skill for CB imo.  on the other extreme, our other starting CB tackles too much, often poorly, resulting in injury.  

so lets think this through for a second...

If he continues to be a unwilling tackler teams will scheme to him to punish that weakness. 

[choco]

@vagitron said:

If he continues to be a unwilling tackler teams will scheme to him to punish that weakness. 

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[Vagitron]

@the-gipper said:

You’re going to have to prove that first sentence in there for you by the way the Browns draft includes Odell Beckham Jr.  but it wasn’t just his acquisition it was also Vernon Olivers acquisition and Sheldon Richardson and Kareem hunt and others. But yes they do have to prove it on the field. But you also say See that the Steelers lost talent and the Browns gained talent where  it seemed fairly even this past season. And that’s why the Browns are favored a lot. 

Check draft grades gipper pretty much across the board. The Steelers only lost antonio brown and he was and is a cancer. Addition by subtraction.

[Vagitron]

@choco said:

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Oh you disagree? Teams will run right at him just like they run right at bad defensive ends or linebackers. He's gonna need to learn how to tackle real quick.

[Canton Dawg]

@vagitron said:

Patrick peterson asked for a trade for a while last season before recommitting to staying in Arizona. 

[Vagitron]

@canton-dawg said:

I never said wilks was bad, I did say he runs a ton of zone scheme and peterson thrives in man and what is peterson supposed to do? Especially when he was being blasted for wanting to "abandon the team" is he going to blast wilks? Probably not.

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

Check draft grades gipper pretty much across the board. The Steelers only lost antonio brown and he was and is a cancer. Addition by subtraction.

You lost more than that.  I know you lost your right tackle also plus some other guys and as far as the draft if you rate better than the Browns it’s only because the browns did not have a first round pick. so I said you have to factor in Odell Beckham Jr. who may be the best wide receiver in football but you don’t understand nuances and details of that nature. 

[Vagitron]

@the-gipper said:

You lost more than that.  I know you lost your right tackle also plus some other guys and as far as the draft if you rate better than the Browns it’s only because the browns did not have a first round pick. so I said you have to factor in Odell Beckham Jr. who may be the best wide receiver in football but you don’t understand nuances and details of that nature. 

We didn't lose Marcus Gilbert, we let him leave. The Steelers drafted a guy to play tackle last year and we have finney and feiler who played tremendously at the position already. Why don't you check how many games Gilbert has played in the last three seasons. He couldn't stay healthy and you mentioning it is just further evidence that you don't know shit about shit outside of Cleveland and even then you are suspect. A good example is getting Vernon's name wrong. (Vernon Oliver I believe is what you said lol) 

 The steelers have lost no one else of value and have only added to the roster in areas of need. Obj isn't better than brown but who knows how good brown will be in Oakland. You exist in a little vacuum gipper. 

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

We didn't lose Marcus Gilbert, we let him leave. The Steelers drafted a guy to play tackle last year and we have finney and feiler who played tremendously at the position already. Why don't you check how many games Gilbert has played in the last three seasons. He couldn't stay healthy and you mentioning it is just further evidence that you don't know shit about shit outside of Cleveland and even then you are suspect. A good example is getting Vernon's name wrong. (Vernon Oliver I believe is what you said lol) 

 The steelers have lost no one else of value and have only added to the roster in areas of need. Obj isn't better than brown but who knows how good brown will be in Oakland. You exist in a little vacuum gipper. 

 He had been you’re starting left right tackle for years and you lost him he left and went somewhere else and to make excuses for losing one of the best players in the entire league to say that he is addition by subtraction is just pure ignorance of the game as far as getting the name wrong I just speak in the text does things and that’s what happens it’s misspells it I said all Oliver Vernon. You lost Le’Veon Bell as well and you have to count that you dumbass because he was a member of your team and you sure as hell didnplay as well without Him. As for the talent you acquired in places a need well we shall see. The Browns also acquired talent in places in need and probably did better overall. You didn’t pick up three pro bowlers in you just got a bunch of unproven rookies. No more proven than the Browns rookies. 

[nickers]

@the-gipper said:

 He had been you’re starting left right tackle for years and you lost him he left and went somewhere else and to make excuses for losing one of the best players in the entire league to say that he is addition by subtraction is just pure ignorance of the game as far as getting the name wrong I just speak in the text does things and that’s what happens it’s misspells it I said all Oliver Vernon. You lost Le’Veon Bell as well and you have to count that you dumbass because he was a member of your team and you sure as hell didnplay as well without Him. As for the talent you acquired in places a need well we shall see. The Browns also acquired talent in places in need and probably did better overall. You didn’t pick up three pro bowlers in you just got a bunch of unproven rookies. No more proven than the Browns rookies. 

Gip.. Arguing with Vag is like arguing with a rock.. Nothing is getting through....In the meantime he's still here trying to convince everyone how fucking right he is.. You would think the pip squeek has better things to do than waste his life on a Browns fan s Forum.. Hilarious!... But by all means.. Keep giving us free entertainment.. He's an embarrassment to most Steeler fans...