Greedy Williams
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He says a lot of things. Perhaps he's attempting to start a rumor?
I looked this morning and couldn't find any mention of these concerns. As they say on the internets, show your proof or it didn't happen..
Check the date before you claim "bias"
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/greedy-williams-doesnt-come-without-concerns
Just two mentions of the ten plus I could link. I never said greedy wasn't good. I did say he avoids contact like if he has any he might die. He gives up on plays and his tape didn't improve as the year went on. He isn't much different than Marcus Peter's who is also terrific in coverage but has bounced around the league up to this point. I'm also not jealous. I'd have been pissed off if the steelers drafted him and they didn't because he does not play the run. If the dude would tackle and play hard all the time he'd have gone inside the top ten easy.
Check the date before you claim "bias"
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/greedy-williams-doesnt-come-without-concerns
Just two mentions of the ten plus I could link. I never said greedy wasn't good. I did say he avoids contact like if he has any he might die. He gives up on plays and his tape didn't improve as the year went on. He isn't much different than Marcus Peter's who is also terrific in coverage but has bounced around the league up to this point. I'm also not jealous. I'd have been pissed off if the steelers drafted him and they didn't because he does not play the run. If the dude would tackle and play hard all the time he'd have gone inside the top ten easy.
So he gave up on a few plays = character concerns? Get outta here with that crap. Character concerns are Joe Mixon or Tyreek Hill. So Williams got called for a dumb penalty at a bad time? I suppose us Browns fans think Mike Tomlin has character concerns after he tried to trip that guy. That one article you quoted compared him to Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, who didn't exactly suck. You can cherry pick any player's tape and find plays where he got beat, or was out of position.
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someone tell fagitron that the tackle concerns with greedy were about stopping RB's or TE's......not other wr's that caught tbe ball.
Yep....the same concern they had about Darrelle Revis, Deion, Darrell Green, Richard Sherman, Champ Bailey
Yep....the same concern they had about Darrelle Revis, Deion, Darrell Green, Richard Sherman, Champ Bailey
You can't coach sub 4.4 speed. I doubt Williams is going to have a Justin Gilbert attitude.
Maybe we should start looking up bad revues on Devin Bush? Have to be a few out there.
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I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
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One thing I noticed about vag is he's a parrot, assimmilating and regurgitating message board shit for a long time. I bag on him and his memory for that simple fact...it's easy to remember one's own thoughts, but he's just a clueless fanboy who uses other arguments to troll on other fan boards. It's just easy for me to see his bullshit because I know more about his team than he does.
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I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, it was tough to find any Browns player who could start for the Steelers. that's no longer the case. Though Vag probably still thinks his Steelers are vastly superior.
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I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
The Steeler OL edge is a lot less sharp now that Munchak is gone from there. But as noted in other threads, Browns OL is still a question mark at a couple of spots, so yes, they would still get the edge based on overall talent and experience there.
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I didn't go through all the posts, but I am surprised nobody mentioned to the Steeler fan boy that a big reason Greedy didn't tackle was because he had a shoulder injury.
So Vagitron, let's look through the positions and compare. And that inst to say Pitt cant or wont win the North, they certainly could, the Browns are still young and building.
QB- I'll give Pitt an edge at the moment, but not for the future
RB- Browns with the edge
WR- Browns certainly with the edge
OL- Steelers certainly
DL- Browns slightly
LB- Steelers at the moment
DB- Browns
ST- I'll give Pitt a slight edge
I can see in 2 years Steelers having an edge in 1 category (OL) and possibly 2.
No reason to come up with stuff to talk negatively about something non football related. I can certainly remember you defending Antonio for everything until he was gone
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, it was tough to find any Browns player who could start for the Steelers. that's no longer the case. Though Vag probably still thinks his Steelers are vastly superior.
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, it was tough to find any Browns player who could start for the Steelers. that's no longer the case. Though Vag probably still thinks his Steelers are vastly superior.
Steelers vastly Superior? Highlight ANY area where the Steelers talent is "vastly superior".
Browns
Hoorta's EDIT: Red MHO, Come on Gip- DeCastro made the Pro Bowl. Pouncey is better than Tretter. Until Baker repeats his rookie performance, you have to give the edge to Ben.
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A long time ago in a galaxy far away, it was tough to find any Browns player who could start for the Steelers. that's no longer the case. Though Vag probably still thinks his Steelers are vastly superior.
Steelers vastly Superior? Highlight ANY area where the Steelers talent is "vastly superior".
Browns
OFFENSE LWR 81 Higgins, Rashard 16/5 18 Ratley, Damion 18/6 00 Sheehy-Guiseppi, Damon SF19 00 Hyman, Ishmael SF19 RWR 13 Beckham Jr., Odell T/NYG 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 84 Willies, Derrick CF18 SWR 80 Landry, Jarvis T/Mia 10 Strong, Jaelen SF19 17 Jackson, Blake SF18 LT 78 Robinson, Greg SF18 69 Harrison, Desmond CF18 LG 75 Bitonio, Joel 14/2 00 Forbes, Drew 19/6 77 Bright, David SF19 C 64 Tretter, JC U/GB 72 Kush, Eric U/Chi 68 Kalis, Kyle SF18 RG 63 Corbett, Austin 18/2 71 Witzmann, Bryan U/Chi RT 74 Hubbard, Chris U/Pit 70 Lamm, Kendall U/Hou 60 Seaton, Brad SF18 TE 85 Njoku, David 17/1 87 DeValve, Seth 16/4 88 Harris, Demetrius U/KC 82 Charles, Orson SF18 86 Brown, Pharaoh SF18 QB 6 Mayfield, Baker 18/1 9 STANTON, DREW U/Arz 00 Gilbert, Garrett SF19 RB 24 Chubb, Nick 18/2 29 Johnson, Duke 15/3 25 Hilliard, Dontrell CF18 33 Mays, Devante SF18 DEFENSE DE 95 Garrett, Myles 17/1 50 Smith, Chris U/Cin 97 Zettel, Anthony W/Det DT 65 Ogunjobi, Larry 17/3 91 Price, Brian SF18 94 Davis, Carl W/Bal 96 Ekuale, Daniel CF18 DT 98 Richardson, Sheldon U/Min 93 Coley, Trevon SF16 99 Lawrence, Devaroe T/NO DE 54 Vernon, Olivier T/NYG 92 Thomas, Chad 18/3 91 Jones, Lenny SF18 SLB 55 Avery, Genard 18/5 57 Taylor, Adarius U/TB MLB 53 Schobert, Joe 16/4 00 Wilson, Mack 19/5 56 Woodson-Luster, Xavier SF18 WLB 58 Kirksey, Christian 14/3 00 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 52 ARMSTRONG, RAY RAY SF18 59 Hines, D'Juan P/LAC LCB 21 Ward, Denzel 18/1 27 Thomas, Tavierre W/Arz 00 Lewis Jr., Donnie 19/7 36 Lampkin, Ashton SF18 33 Gaines, Phillip W/Buf S 00 BURNETT, MORGAN SF19 35 Whitehead, Jermaine W/GB S 23 Randall, Damarious T/GB 00 Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4 25 Sankoh, Tigie CF18/EX RCB 39 Mitchell, Terrance U/KC 00 Williams, Greedy 19/2 22 Murray, Eric T/KC 34 Jackson, Robert SF18 31 Burris, Juston P/NYJ NB 38 Carrie, TJ U/Oak 41 Pipkins, Lenzy SF18 SPECIAL TEAMS P 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PK 17 Joseph, Greg CF18 00 Seibert, Austin 19/5 LS 47 Hughlett, Charley P/KC H 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PR 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 KR 25 Steelers:
OFFENSE LWR 13 Washington, James 18/2 11 Moncrief, Donte U/Jax 15 Griffey, Trey SF18 83 Spencer, Diontae SF19 RWR 19 Smith-Schuster, JuJu 17/2 80 White, Ka'Raun SF19 14 Jones, Tevin SF18 WR 17 Rogers, Eli CF15 10 Switzer, Ryan T/Oak 00 Johnson, Diontae 19/3 LT 78 VILLANUEVA, ALEJANDRO SF14 76 Okorafor, Chukwuma 18/3 00 Gray, Derwin 19/7 LG 73 FOSTER, RAMON CF09 64 Prince, RJ CF18 62 Morris, Patrick CF18 C 53 Pouncey, Maurkice 10/1 67 Finney, BJ CF15 60 Hassenauer, JC SF19 RG 66 DeCastro, David 12/1 RT 71 Feiler, Matt SF15 65 Hawkins, Jerald 16/4 72 Banner, Zach SF18 TE 89 McDonald, Vance T/SF 85 Grimble, Xavier SF15 00 Gentry, Zach 19/5 87 Rader, Kevin SF19 49 Scotland-Williamson, Christian CF18/EX QB 7 ROETHLISBERGER, BEN 04/1 5 Dobbs, Joshua 17/4 2 Rudolph, Mason 18/3 6 Roback, Brogan SF19 RB 30 Conner, James 17/3 38 Samuels, Jaylen 18/5 00 Snell Jr., Benny 19/4 40 Edmunds, Trey SF18 39 Williams, Malik SF19 RB 40 Webb, Ralph SF18 FB 45 Nix, Roosevelt SF15 DEFENSE LDE 97 HEYWARD, CAMERON 11/1 00 Buggs, Isaiah 19/6 61 Sheehy, Conor SF19 64 Craig, Winston SF19 NT 79 Hargrave, Javon 16/3 93 McCullers, Daniel 14/6 95 Hooks, Lavon SF16 RDE 91 Tuitt, Stephon 14/2 94 ALUALU, TYSON U/Jax 74 Sayles, Casey SF19 LOLB 48 Dupree, Bud 15/1 49 Spillane, Robert SF19 99 Adams, Keion 17/7 LILB 00 Barron, Mark CC/LAR 00 Gilbert III, Ulysees 19/6 92 Adeniyi, Olasunkanmi CF18 46 Scales, Tegray SF19 RILB 00 Bush Jr., Devin 19/1 98 Williams, Vince 13/6 44 Matakevich, Tyler 16/7 00 Smith, Sutton 19/6 ROLB 90 Watt, TJ 17/1 56 Chickillo, Anthony 15/6 40 Jones, JT SF19 LCB 23 HADEN, JOE SF17 00 Layne, Justin 19/3 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 35 Waters, Herb SF18 33 Tocho, Jack SF19 FS 21 Davis, Sean 16/2 27 Allen, Marcus 18/5 29 Allen, Brian 17/5 SS 34 Edmunds, Terrell 18/1 37 Dangerfield, Jordan SF14 RCB 22 Nelson, Steven U/KC 25 Burns, Artie 16/1 20 Sutton, Cameron 17/3 39 Branch, Marcelis SF19 38 Kelly, Kameron SF19 NB 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 Hoorta's EDIT: Red MHO, Come on Gip- DeCastro made the Pro Bowl. Pouncey is better than Tretter. Until Baker repeats his rookie performance, you have to give the edge to Ben.
Steelers vastly Superior? Highlight ANY area where the Steelers talent is "vastly superior".
Browns
OFFENSE LWR 81 Higgins, Rashard 16/5 18 Ratley, Damion 18/6 00 Sheehy-Guiseppi, Damon SF19 00 Hyman, Ishmael SF19 RWR 13 Beckham Jr., Odell T/NYG 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 84 Willies, Derrick CF18 SWR 80 Landry, Jarvis T/Mia 10 Strong, Jaelen SF19 17 Jackson, Blake SF18 LT 78 Robinson, Greg SF18 69 Harrison, Desmond CF18 LG 75 Bitonio, Joel 14/2 00 Forbes, Drew 19/6 77 Bright, David SF19 C 64 Tretter, JC U/GB 72 Kush, Eric U/Chi 68 Kalis, Kyle SF18 RG 63 Corbett, Austin 18/2 71 Witzmann, Bryan U/Chi RT 74 Hubbard, Chris U/Pit 70 Lamm, Kendall U/Hou 60 Seaton, Brad SF18 TE 85 Njoku, David 17/1 87 DeValve, Seth 16/4 88 Harris, Demetrius U/KC 82 Charles, Orson SF18 86 Brown, Pharaoh SF18 QB 6 Mayfield, Baker 18/1 9 STANTON, DREW U/Arz 00 Gilbert, Garrett SF19 RB 24 Chubb, Nick 18/2 29 Johnson, Duke 15/3 25 Hilliard, Dontrell CF18 33 Mays, Devante SF18 DEFENSE DE 95 Garrett, Myles 17/1 50 Smith, Chris U/Cin 97 Zettel, Anthony W/Det DT 65 Ogunjobi, Larry 17/3 91 Price, Brian SF18 94 Davis, Carl W/Bal 96 Ekuale, Daniel CF18 DT 98 Richardson, Sheldon U/Min 93 Coley, Trevon SF16 99 Lawrence, Devaroe T/NO DE 54 Vernon, Olivier T/NYG 92 Thomas, Chad 18/3 91 Jones, Lenny SF18 SLB 55 Avery, Genard 18/5 57 Taylor, Adarius U/TB MLB 53 Schobert, Joe 16/4 00 Wilson, Mack 19/5 56 Woodson-Luster, Xavier SF18 WLB 58 Kirksey, Christian 14/3 00 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 52 ARMSTRONG, RAY RAY SF18 59 Hines, D'Juan P/LAC LCB 21 Ward, Denzel 18/1 27 Thomas, Tavierre W/Arz 00 Lewis Jr., Donnie 19/7 36 Lampkin, Ashton SF18 33 Gaines, Phillip W/Buf S 00 BURNETT, MORGAN SF19 35 Whitehead, Jermaine W/GB S 23 Randall, Damarious T/GB 00 Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4 25 Sankoh, Tigie CF18/EX RCB 39 Mitchell, Terrance U/KC 00 Williams, Greedy 19/2 22 Murray, Eric T/KC 34 Jackson, Robert SF18 31 Burris, Juston P/NYJ NB 38 Carrie, TJ U/Oak 41 Pipkins, Lenzy SF18 SPECIAL TEAMS P 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PK 17 Joseph, Greg CF18 00 Seibert, Austin 19/5 LS 47 Hughlett, Charley P/KC H 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PR 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 KR 25 Steelers:
OFFENSE LWR 13 Washington, James 18/2 11 Moncrief, Donte U/Jax 15 Griffey, Trey SF18 83 Spencer, Diontae SF19 RWR 19 Smith-Schuster, JuJu 17/2 80 White, Ka'Raun SF19 14 Jones, Tevin SF18 WR 17 Rogers, Eli CF15 10 Switzer, Ryan T/Oak 00 Johnson, Diontae 19/3 LT 78 VILLANUEVA, ALEJANDRO SF14 76 Okorafor, Chukwuma 18/3 00 Gray, Derwin 19/7 LG 73 FOSTER, RAMON CF09 64 Prince, RJ CF18 62 Morris, Patrick CF18 C 53 Pouncey, Maurkice 10/1 67 Finney, BJ CF15 60 Hassenauer, JC SF19 RG 66 DeCastro, David 12/1 RT 71 Feiler, Matt SF15 65 Hawkins, Jerald 16/4 72 Banner, Zach SF18 TE 89 McDonald, Vance T/SF 85 Grimble, Xavier SF15 00 Gentry, Zach 19/5 87 Rader, Kevin SF19 49 Scotland-Williamson, Christian CF18/EX QB 7 ROETHLISBERGER, BEN 04/1 5 Dobbs, Joshua 17/4 2 Rudolph, Mason 18/3 6 Roback, Brogan SF19 RB 30 Conner, James 17/3 38 Samuels, Jaylen 18/5 00 Snell Jr., Benny 19/4 40 Edmunds, Trey SF18 39 Williams, Malik SF19 RB 40 Webb, Ralph SF18 FB 45 Nix, Roosevelt SF15 DEFENSE LDE 97 HEYWARD, CAMERON 11/1 00 Buggs, Isaiah 19/6 61 Sheehy, Conor SF19 64 Craig, Winston SF19 NT 79 Hargrave, Javon 16/3 93 McCullers, Daniel 14/6 95 Hooks, Lavon SF16 RDE 91 Tuitt, Stephon 14/2 94 ALUALU, TYSON U/Jax 74 Sayles, Casey SF19 LOLB 48 Dupree, Bud 15/1 49 Spillane, Robert SF19 99 Adams, Keion 17/7 LILB 00 Barron, Mark CC/LAR 00 Gilbert III, Ulysees 19/6 92 Adeniyi, Olasunkanmi CF18 46 Scales, Tegray SF19 RILB 00 Bush Jr., Devin 19/1 98 Williams, Vince 13/6 44 Matakevich, Tyler 16/7 00 Smith, Sutton 19/6 ROLB 90 Watt, TJ 17/1 56 Chickillo, Anthony 15/6 40 Jones, JT SF19 LCB 23 HADEN, JOE SF17 00 Layne, Justin 19/3 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 35 Waters, Herb SF18 33 Tocho, Jack SF19 FS 21 Davis, Sean 16/2 27 Allen, Marcus 18/5 29 Allen, Brian 17/5 SS 34 Edmunds, Terrell 18/1 37 Dangerfield, Jordan SF14 RCB 22 Nelson, Steven U/KC 25 Burns, Artie 16/1 20 Sutton, Cameron 17/3 39 Branch, Marcelis SF19 38 Kelly, Kameron SF19 NB 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 I would still have to say their OL is to be honest. They may not improve as much as they would with Munchak, but they still had him before. And we don't know what they will gain from the new coach. There was a time when everyone here thought Hue was a great hire. For my money, Pitt had the best OL last season. I think with Frederick coming back and everyone being healthy that Dallas should have the best, but Pitt will still have a great line, and the Browns still have big question marks there
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One thing I noticed about vag is he's a parrot, assimmilating and regurgitating message board shit for a long time. I bag on him and his memory for that simple fact...it's easy to remember one's own thoughts, but he's just a clueless fanboy who uses other arguments to troll on other fan boards. It's just easy for me to see his bullshit because I know more about his team than he does.
One thing I noticed about vag is he's a parrot, assimmilating and regurgitating message board shit for a long time. I bag on him and his memory for that simple fact...it's easy to remember one's own thoughts, but he's just a clueless fanboy who uses other arguments to troll on other fan boards. It's just easy for me to see his bullshit because I know more about his team than he does.
You are so hilariously up your own ass. You don't know a thing about the steelers.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
One thing I noticed about vag is he's a parrot, assimmilating and regurgitating message board shit for a long time. I bag on him and his memory for that simple fact...it's easy to remember one's own thoughts, but he's just a clueless fanboy who uses other arguments to troll on other fan boards. It's just easy for me to see his bullshit because I know more about his team than he does.
You are so hilariously up your own ass. You don't know a thing about the steelers.
You are so hilariously up your own ass. You don't know a thing about the steelers.
And you don't know much about the Cleveland if you don't think the Browns have surpassed you in talent, at a lot of positions. Don't believe me, if you want to, but take this one, from what I heard on ESPN this afternoon. "The only question is if the Browns will be able to get all the talent they've amassed to play together."
Ju Ju isn't Antonio Brown, and if you think he'd beat out Beckham for #1 wr, you're nuts. You don't have a #2 wr that's anywhere close to Landry, and I'll take Chubb over Connor.
I'll agree with Gunz, the only area where the Steelers still have a big advantage is offensive line, somewhat at LB- and that's about it.
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One thing I noticed about vag is he's a parrot, assimmilating and regurgitating message board shit for a long time. I bag on him and his memory for that simple fact...it's easy to remember one's own thoughts, but he's just a clueless fanboy who uses other arguments to troll on other fan boards. It's just easy for me to see his bullshit because I know more about his team than he does.
You are so hilariously up your own ass. You don't know a thing about the steelers.
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You are so hilariously up your own ass. You don't know a thing about the steelers.
And you don't know much about the Cleveland if you don't think the Browns have surpassed you in talent, at a lot of positions. Don't believe me, if you want to, but take this one, from what I heard on ESPN this afternoon. "The only question is if the Browns will be able to get all the talent they've amassed to play together."
Ju Ju isn't Antonio Brown, and if you think he'd beat out Beckham for #1 wr, you're nuts. You don't have a #2 wr that's anywhere close to Landry, and I'll take Chubb over Connor.
I'll agree with Gunz, the only area where the Steelers still have a big advantage is offensive line, somewhat at LB- and that's about it.
And you don't know much about the Cleveland if you don't think the Browns have surpassed you in talent, at a lot of positions. Don't believe me, if you want to, but take this one, from what I heard on ESPN this afternoon. "The only question is if the Browns will be able to get all the talent they've amassed to play together."
Ju Ju isn't Antonio Brown, and if you think he'd beat out Beckham for #1 wr, you're nuts. You don't have a #2 wr that's anywhere close to Landry, and I'll take Chubb over Connor.
I'll agree with Gunz, the only area where the Steelers still have a big advantage is offensive line, somewhat at LB- and that's about it.
I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and wirh the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Edit: Ben isn't better than Mayfield? Lmao
I also can't wait until you all need to start paying everyone, this isn't madden.
I'm also happy to not post here for a while but people keep replying and I keep getting dinged so shut the fuck up and you can get a break. Xoxo
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
And you don't know much about the Cleveland if you don't think the Browns have surpassed you in talent, at a lot of positions. Don't believe me, if you want to, but take this one, from what I heard on ESPN this afternoon. "The only question is if the Browns will be able to get all the talent they've amassed to play together."
Ju Ju isn't Antonio Brown, and if you think he'd beat out Beckham for #1 wr, you're nuts. You don't have a #2 wr that's anywhere close to Landry, and I'll take Chubb over Connor.
I'll agree with Gunz, the only area where the Steelers still have a big advantage is offensive line, somewhat at LB- and that's about it.
I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and wirh the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Edit: Ben isn't better than Mayfield? Lmao
I also can't wait until you all need to start paying everyone, this isn't madden.
I'm also happy to not post here for a while but people keep replying and I keep getting dinged so shut the fuck up and you can get a break. Xoxo
I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and with the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Guess what? Neither are you. You didn't win it last year, your draft and FA pickups pale in comparison to what the Browns have done, and I won't be surprised if you're looking up at the Ravens besides the Browns come January.
You got a running back named Benny Hill? I thought he was a comedian. Um, the Browns will have a guy named Kareem Hunt in the lineup the first time we play Pittsburgh. Ever hear of him? Landry is a volume guy that makes the Pro Bowl every year.
Yup, that's all the Steeler fans got to hope for this season- that all the talent the Browns have amassed doesn't mesh.
Sure, some Browns fans are acting irrational and all but have the Super Bowl tickets printed already. Regarding the national media- hate to tell you, they're just reporting what they see. The talking heads that are saying pump the brakes, and you're overrating the Browns are WAY in the minority- so don't try and tell me 90%+ of them are biased. Could the Browns flop? Sure- everyone had the Jags penciled in for at least a repeat trip to the AFC Championship game last year, and they laid a major turd instead.
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I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and with the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Guess what? Neither are you. You didn't win it last year, your draft and FA pickups pale in comparison to what the Browns have done, and I won't be surprised if you're looking up at the Ravens besides the Browns come January.
You got a running back named Benny Hill? I thought he was a comedian. Um, the Browns will have a guy named Kareem Hunt in the lineup the first time we play Pittsburgh. Ever hear of him? Landry is a volume guy that makes the Pro Bowl every year.
Yup, that's all the Steeler fans got to hope for this season- that all the talent the Browns have amassed doesn't mesh.
Sure, some Browns fans are acting irrational and all but have the Super Bowl tickets printed already. Regarding the national media- hate to tell you, they're just reporting what they see. The talking heads that are saying pump the brakes, and you're overrating the Browns are WAY in the minority- so don't try and tell me 90%+ of them are biased. Could the Browns flop? Sure- everyone had the Jags penciled in for at least a repeat trip to the AFC Championship game last year, and they laid a major turd instead.
Guess what? Neither are you. You didn't win it last year, your draft and FA pickups pale in comparison to what the Browns have done, and I won't be surprised if you're looking up at the Ravens besides the Browns come January.
You got a running back named Benny Hill? I thought he was a comedian. Um, the Browns will have a guy named Kareem Hunt in the lineup the first time we play Pittsburgh. Ever hear of him? Landry is a volume guy that makes the Pro Bowl every year.
Yup, that's all the Steeler fans got to hope for this season- that all the talent the Browns have amassed doesn't mesh.
Sure, some Browns fans are acting irrational and all but have the Super Bowl tickets printed already. Regarding the national media- hate to tell you, they're just reporting what they see. The talking heads that are saying pump the brakes, and you're overrating the Browns are WAY in the minority- so don't try and tell me 90%+ of them are biased. Could the Browns flop? Sure- everyone had the Jags penciled in for at least a repeat trip to the AFC Championship game last year, and they laid a major turd instead.
I can't wait for the season to start. Vernon is no better than either of the steeler defensive ends. Obj is really good but the steelers are a wr factory and have invested high draft picks in wr's for a while now. Juju was the last hit and Washington turned it on to end the season despite playing behind two 100 catch over 1000 yard receivers.
Ben > Baker
Our offensive line > yours by a country mile.
Our cancer in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
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Steelers vastly Superior? Highlight ANY area where the Steelers talent is "vastly superior".
Browns
OFFENSE LWR 81 Higgins, Rashard 16/5 18 Ratley, Damion 18/6 00 Sheehy-Guiseppi, Damon SF19 00 Hyman, Ishmael SF19 RWR 13 Beckham Jr., Odell T/NYG 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 84 Willies, Derrick CF18 SWR 80 Landry, Jarvis T/Mia 10 Strong, Jaelen SF19 17 Jackson, Blake SF18 LT 78 Robinson, Greg SF18 69 Harrison, Desmond CF18 LG 75 Bitonio, Joel 14/2 00 Forbes, Drew 19/6 77 Bright, David SF19 C 64 Tretter, JC U/GB 72 Kush, Eric U/Chi 68 Kalis, Kyle SF18 RG 63 Corbett, Austin 18/2 71 Witzmann, Bryan U/Chi RT 74 Hubbard, Chris U/Pit 70 Lamm, Kendall U/Hou 60 Seaton, Brad SF18 TE 85 Njoku, David 17/1 87 DeValve, Seth 16/4 88 Harris, Demetrius U/KC 82 Charles, Orson SF18 86 Brown, Pharaoh SF18 QB 6 Mayfield, Baker 18/1 9 STANTON, DREW U/Arz 00 Gilbert, Garrett SF19 RB 24 Chubb, Nick 18/2 29 Johnson, Duke 15/3 25 Hilliard, Dontrell CF18 33 Mays, Devante SF18 DEFENSE DE 95 Garrett, Myles 17/1 50 Smith, Chris U/Cin 97 Zettel, Anthony W/Det DT 65 Ogunjobi, Larry 17/3 91 Price, Brian SF18 94 Davis, Carl W/Bal 96 Ekuale, Daniel CF18 DT 98 Richardson, Sheldon U/Min 93 Coley, Trevon SF16 99 Lawrence, Devaroe T/NO DE 54 Vernon, Olivier T/NYG 92 Thomas, Chad 18/3 91 Jones, Lenny SF18 SLB 55 Avery, Genard 18/5 57 Taylor, Adarius U/TB MLB 53 Schobert, Joe 16/4 00 Wilson, Mack 19/5 56 Woodson-Luster, Xavier SF18 WLB 58 Kirksey, Christian 14/3 00 Takitaki, Sione 19/3 52 ARMSTRONG, RAY RAY SF18 59 Hines, D'Juan P/LAC LCB 21 Ward, Denzel 18/1 27 Thomas, Tavierre W/Arz 00 Lewis Jr., Donnie 19/7 36 Lampkin, Ashton SF18 33 Gaines, Phillip W/Buf S 00 BURNETT, MORGAN SF19 35 Whitehead, Jermaine W/GB S 23 Randall, Damarious T/GB 00 Redwine, Sheldrick 19/4 25 Sankoh, Tigie CF18/EX RCB 39 Mitchell, Terrance U/KC 00 Williams, Greedy 19/2 22 Murray, Eric T/KC 34 Jackson, Robert SF18 31 Burris, Juston P/NYJ NB 38 Carrie, TJ U/Oak 41 Pipkins, Lenzy SF18 SPECIAL TEAMS P 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PK 17 Joseph, Greg CF18 00 Seibert, Austin 19/5 LS 47 Hughlett, Charley P/KC H 4 COLQUITT, BRITTON SF16 PR 11 Callaway, Antonio 18/4 KR 25 Steelers:
OFFENSE LWR 13 Washington, James 18/2 11 Moncrief, Donte U/Jax 15 Griffey, Trey SF18 83 Spencer, Diontae SF19 RWR 19 Smith-Schuster, JuJu 17/2 80 White, Ka'Raun SF19 14 Jones, Tevin SF18 WR 17 Rogers, Eli CF15 10 Switzer, Ryan T/Oak 00 Johnson, Diontae 19/3 LT 78 VILLANUEVA, ALEJANDRO SF14 76 Okorafor, Chukwuma 18/3 00 Gray, Derwin 19/7 LG 73 FOSTER, RAMON CF09 64 Prince, RJ CF18 62 Morris, Patrick CF18 C 53 Pouncey, Maurkice 10/1 67 Finney, BJ CF15 60 Hassenauer, JC SF19 RG 66 DeCastro, David 12/1 RT 71 Feiler, Matt SF15 65 Hawkins, Jerald 16/4 72 Banner, Zach SF18 TE 89 McDonald, Vance T/SF 85 Grimble, Xavier SF15 00 Gentry, Zach 19/5 87 Rader, Kevin SF19 49 Scotland-Williamson, Christian CF18/EX QB 7 ROETHLISBERGER, BEN 04/1 5 Dobbs, Joshua 17/4 2 Rudolph, Mason 18/3 6 Roback, Brogan SF19 RB 30 Conner, James 17/3 38 Samuels, Jaylen 18/5 00 Snell Jr., Benny 19/4 40 Edmunds, Trey SF18 39 Williams, Malik SF19 RB 40 Webb, Ralph SF18 FB 45 Nix, Roosevelt SF15 DEFENSE LDE 97 HEYWARD, CAMERON 11/1 00 Buggs, Isaiah 19/6 61 Sheehy, Conor SF19 64 Craig, Winston SF19 NT 79 Hargrave, Javon 16/3 93 McCullers, Daniel 14/6 95 Hooks, Lavon SF16 RDE 91 Tuitt, Stephon 14/2 94 ALUALU, TYSON U/Jax 74 Sayles, Casey SF19 LOLB 48 Dupree, Bud 15/1 49 Spillane, Robert SF19 99 Adams, Keion 17/7 LILB 00 Barron, Mark CC/LAR 00 Gilbert III, Ulysees 19/6 92 Adeniyi, Olasunkanmi CF18 46 Scales, Tegray SF19 RILB 00 Bush Jr., Devin 19/1 98 Williams, Vince 13/6 44 Matakevich, Tyler 16/7 00 Smith, Sutton 19/6 ROLB 90 Watt, TJ 17/1 56 Chickillo, Anthony 15/6 40 Jones, JT SF19 LCB 23 HADEN, JOE SF17 00 Layne, Justin 19/3 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 35 Waters, Herb SF18 33 Tocho, Jack SF19 FS 21 Davis, Sean 16/2 27 Allen, Marcus 18/5 29 Allen, Brian 17/5 SS 34 Edmunds, Terrell 18/1 37 Dangerfield, Jordan SF14 RCB 22 Nelson, Steven U/KC 25 Burns, Artie 16/1 20 Sutton, Cameron 17/3 39 Branch, Marcelis SF19 38 Kelly, Kameron SF19 NB 28 Hilton, Mike SF16 I would still have to say their OL is to be honest. They may not improve as much as they would with Munchak, but they still had him before. And we don't know what they will gain from the new coach. There was a time when everyone here thought Hue was a great hire. For my money, Pitt had the best OL last season. I think with Frederick coming back and everyone being healthy that Dallas should have the best, but Pitt will still have a great line, and the Browns still have big question marks there
I would still have to say their OL is to be honest. They may not improve as much as they would with Munchak, but they still had him before. And we don't know what they will gain from the new coach. There was a time when everyone here thought Hue was a great hire. For my money, Pitt had the best OL last season. I think with Frederick coming back and everyone being healthy that Dallas should have the best, but Pitt will still have a great line, and the Browns still have big question marks there
No disagreement there....but as I said....their edge would not be as sharp IMO.
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Guess what? Neither are you. You didn't win it last year, your draft and FA pickups pale in comparison to what the Browns have done, and I won't be surprised if you're looking up at the Ravens besides the Browns come January.
You got a running back named Benny Hill? I thought he was a comedian. Um, the Browns will have a guy named Kareem Hunt in the lineup the first time we play Pittsburgh. Ever hear of him? Landry is a volume guy that makes the Pro Bowl every year.
Yup, that's all the Steeler fans got to hope for this season- that all the talent the Browns have amassed doesn't mesh.
Sure, some Browns fans are acting irrational and all but have the Super Bowl tickets printed already. Regarding the national media- hate to tell you, they're just reporting what they see. The talking heads that are saying pump the brakes, and you're overrating the Browns are WAY in the minority- so don't try and tell me 90%+ of them are biased. Could the Browns flop? Sure- everyone had the Jags penciled in for at least a repeat trip to the AFC Championship game last year, and they laid a major turd instead.
I can't wait for the season to start. Vernon is no better than either of the steeler defensive ends. Obj is really good but the steelers are a wr factory and have invested high draft picks in wr's for a while now. Juju was the last hit and Washington turned it on to end the season despite playing behind two 100 catch over 1000 yard receivers.
Ben > Baker
Our offensive line > yours by a country mile.
Our cancer in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
You don't add by losing a HoF receiver. I don't care how you would like to spin it.
Snell is a solid RB, not sure I would put him in the Nick category even pre-draft.
Hunt and Connor are two very different backs that, when healthy, are both arguably top 10 producers. So they're comparable in that regard at least.
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And you don't know much about the Cleveland if you don't think the Browns have surpassed you in talent, at a lot of positions. Don't believe me, if you want to, but take this one, from what I heard on ESPN this afternoon. "The only question is if the Browns will be able to get all the talent they've amassed to play together."
Ju Ju isn't Antonio Brown, and if you think he'd beat out Beckham for #1 wr, you're nuts. You don't have a #2 wr that's anywhere close to Landry, and I'll take Chubb over Connor.
I'll agree with Gunz, the only area where the Steelers still have a big advantage is offensive line, somewhat at LB- and that's about it.
I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and wirh the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Edit: Ben isn't better than Mayfield? Lmao
I also can't wait until you all need to start paying everyone, this isn't madden.
I'm also happy to not post here for a while but people keep replying and I keep getting dinged so shut the fuck up and you can get a break. Xoxo
I lived in ohio now off and on for over 10 years. I know the shit stains and the Bengals. What I find most hilarious is the national media all over the Browns. The talent is there no doubt about it. You can have all the talent in the world and it doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't put it to the field. The Steelers lose brown and blood is in the water despite it being irrational. Juju is really damn good. He's better than Landry and different than obj. The Steelers are a wide receiver factory and just drafted another potentially good one at the top of the third. We have Washington and moncrief as well. Check the latter's stats with Andrew luck. Jarvis Landry is a volume guy, he's not a dynamic wr. He catches a lot of balls and that's always been his m.o. And if the Browns did surpass the steelers on PAPER you can thank all the horrendous years where the team picked inside the top ten permanently. I would hope eventually they would get more even talent wise with that draft capital.
The steelers had a strong draft this year, our line is the best in the league and our qb is a hall of famer. Bush fills a large hole in the middle of the defense hence the uncharacteristic trade up by the steelers. You may also want to watch tape on benny snell if you haven't already before you go crowing your running backs. We can also revisit the offensive line difference which isn't even close even with munchak gone. You all act like the steelers are chopped liver now and wirh the media expectations of the Browns comes a lot of added pressure. I'm glad the Browns will be better but crowning yourselves is fucking hilarious and irrational.
Browns aren't winning the division
Edit: Ben isn't better than Mayfield? Lmao
I also can't wait until you all need to start paying everyone, this isn't madden.
I'm also happy to not post here for a while but people keep replying and I keep getting dinged so shut the fuck up and you can get a break. Xoxo
Well....the Steelers weren't as good as the Ravens last year (in case you forgot).
The Browns, yes, on paper, have vastly improved in this offseason from a team that was a couple of bad calls and couple of missed kicks away from being in the playoffs.
The Steelers have NOT improved commensurately, not at all. You lost AB...and your touting of your WR corps and how good you think it is is based on a WR corps that includes AB. Juju does not come close to OBJ in talent. You think that you disparage Landry by calling him a "volume guy"..and that he is not dynamic. What he IS dynamic as is as a first down maker, a drive sustainer. No one in the league has been as good as him at that over the past few years.
Ben IS a Hall of Famer, but he just turned 37, but it remains to be seen if he will sustain with age like Brady/Brees.....or become like Eli Manning who may be pretty much done. We know he is no longer as mobile as he was. (he may be in between). Mayfield is an up and comer....and a new generation of QBs (including the likes of Darnold/Rosen/Allen etc.) may end up toppling the old guard as soon as this year.
The Steelers OL, yes, IS, on paper (and in past production) better than the Browns. But despite plausibly better talent...I think it may have lost its mojo with the departure of Munchak...remains to be seen.
So, you have one single unit that is probably better than the Browns unit. (maybe 2 with the LB corps...).
And while you may be right....the Browns may not win the division, the fact is, no one...not even your sorry delusional ass, can claim that they will not be a factor in the division race.
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Guess what? Neither are you. You didn't win it last year, your draft and FA pickups pale in comparison to what the Browns have done, and I won't be surprised if you're looking up at the Ravens besides the Browns come January.
You got a running back named Benny Hill? I thought he was a comedian. Um, the Browns will have a guy named Kareem Hunt in the lineup the first time we play Pittsburgh. Ever hear of him? Landry is a volume guy that makes the Pro Bowl every year.
Yup, that's all the Steeler fans got to hope for this season- that all the talent the Browns have amassed doesn't mesh.
Sure, some Browns fans are acting irrational and all but have the Super Bowl tickets printed already. Regarding the national media- hate to tell you, they're just reporting what they see. The talking heads that are saying pump the brakes, and you're overrating the Browns are WAY in the minority- so don't try and tell me 90%+ of them are biased. Could the Browns flop? Sure- everyone had the Jags penciled in for at least a repeat trip to the AFC Championship game last year, and they laid a major turd instead.
I can't wait for the season to start. Vernon is no better than either of the steeler defensive ends. Obj is really good but the steelers are a wr factory and have invested high draft picks in wr's for a while now. Juju was the last hit and Washington turned it on to end the season despite playing behind two 100 catch over 1000 yard receivers.
Ben > Baker
Our offensive line > yours by a country mile.
Our cancer in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
I can't wait for the season to start. Vernon is no better than either of the steeler defensive ends. Obj is really good but the steelers are a wr factory and have invested high draft picks in wr's for a while now. Juju was the last hit and Washington turned it on to end the season despite playing behind two 100 catch over 1000 yard receivers.
Ben > Baker
Our offensive line > yours by a country mile.
Our cancer in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
Don't know if Vernon is better than either of the DEs the Steelers have....but he is at least just as good. And Garrett certainly is better. And now with Sheldon Richardson, and Ogunjobi, the Browns DTs are better than the Steelers.
And your belief in your WRs is based pretty much on the fact that BR is the one throwing to them. OBJ was possibly better than AB...who you know longer have. Juju is good, but in their way both OBJ and Landry are better....one as a #1 WR, the other as a possession man. James Washington could be lucky to make the Browns 5th string WR, behind OBJ/Landry/Calloway/Higgins. Moncrief? I don't know a lot about him. Is he a burner? Possession guy? He too would be fighting for the Browns #5 spot.
And your cancer is BR...not the other guys.
And Conner is not as good as either Chubb nor Hunt. In case you don't recall...Kareem Hunt led the NFL in rushing year before last...so that puts him in a class with guys like Ezekiel Elliot and Adrian Peterson over the last 5 years.
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in antonio brown is gone. Addition by subtraction. You need to get ready to be disappointed.
Edit: and benny snell has been compared to nick chubb for a while. Hunt isn't any better than Connor. Go watch some benny snell tape.
You don't add by losing a HoF receiver. I don't care how you would like to spin it.
Snell is a solid RB, not sure I would put him in the Nick category even pre-draft.
Hunt and Connor are two very different backs that, when healthy, are both arguably top 10 producers. So they're comparable in that regard at least.
You don't add by losing a HoF receiver. I don't care how you would like to spin it.
Snell is a solid RB, not sure I would put him in the Nick category even pre-draft.
Hunt and Connor are two very different backs that, when healthy, are both arguably top 10 producers. So they're comparable in that regard at least.
Well....FYI, Chubb had more gross yards than Conner....on fewer attempts. 996 vs. 973.
Chubb was 5th in the leagues in Yards per attempt. Conner was 28th.
While Conner had more yards per game.....he had a lot more attempts....and started more games than Chubb.
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You're a fucking idiot gipper. You are always wrong too. I hope you start getting shit right for a change. It has to be hard on your psyche.
And it's clear that you ONLY watch Browns games. You mention Peterson who has been a shell of himself for several years now as a bench mark because he's one of the few non-browns you know without using Google.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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